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For $1.5M, Penn St QB Beau Pribula has Committed to Missouri after Visiting IOWA Wed, Dec 18. Will Iowa add a 6th QB to the Roster?

At this point I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in Camden Coleman the Richmond QB who has 2 years elg left so that there is a QB in every class , I liked His tape better than Brown's and He played in a RPO offense at Richmond and is a decent running threat and has played in 18 games
Bringing in guys from lower levels is apparently Iowa's best option since they seem unable to compete with peer programs.
 
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Why do so many on here think Lester is the answer? What has he shown so far that differentiates him from his predecessors? And has his presence made a big difference in recruiting offensive studs? Have his game plans really excited the heart of Hawkeye fans or has it been just more of the same? I know it was only his first year, but I remember Hayden's first year (hell, first game) when it was obvious something was afoot. Not so much now, when we have improved everything surrounding this program since Fry took over. Now we are just held captive by Kirk and his concept of football. Hell, I've been a fan of the Hawks longer than he's been around. I should rightly have some expectations that things will get fixed and we will become a balanced, offensive power. So far, not feeling that change coming from the front office.
Expectations should be that Iowa is a winning program.

And they've been just that more consistently than nearly everybody in the country since KF has been here.

If that's not good enough for you, it's a "you" problem, rather than a "Hawkeye football" problem.

Heck, how many fans claimed before the season that they would be satisfied with incremental improvement from the offense this season? Guess what folks, Iowa DOUBLED their scoring this season.

But was it enough for you guys? No, because they didn't do it in the fashion you wanted them to.

And it was never going to be enough because most of you are the same people who were bitching before the offense was ever broken.

Also should be noted that Iowa won more with the worst offense in the country.

The priority in sports is more clearly defined than just about any area of life I can think of. And some of you still can't figure it out
 
Expectations should be that Iowa is a winning program.

And they've been just that more consistently than nearly everybody in the country since KF has been here.

If that's not good enough for you, it's a "you" problem, rather than a "Hawkeye football" problem.

Heck, how many fans claimed before the season that they would be satisfied with incremental improvement from the offense this season? Guess what folks, Iowa DOUBLED their scoring this season.

But was it enough for you guys? No, because they didn't do it in the fashion you wanted them to.

And it was never going to be enough because most of you are the same people who were bitching before the offense was ever broken.

Also should be noted that Iowa won more with the worst offense in the country.

The priority in sports is more clearly defined than just about any area of life I can think of. And some of you still can't figure it out
How's our record against top 25 teams in the last few years? Sure, we beat bottom feeders like Nebraska, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, and Iowa State. But what about legitimately great programs?

To say that no one was satisfied that we averaged a higher score this year is disingenuous, but that's par for the course for you. I've seldom seen an Iowa fan say that Tim Lester wasn't a big improvement. His play calling is leagues better, even if he has to use Brian Ferentz leftovers instead of his own guys.

The "way we wanted them to" is a cute way to phrase wanting them to play better football. This year proved that Kirk's way of playing these last few years wasn't sustainable. We no longer have an All American kicker or lockdown Corner to save us.

We won more last year in spite of our offense being so bad. The teams we played this year were better than last year. And because we no longer have players like Cooper and Tory, the cracks are finally starting to show in Kirk's strategy. Having the mentality of "as long as we win nothing else matters", shows how short sighted and foolish it is when we play teams like Ohio State, Tennessee, and Penn State. Each loss being a bigger embarrassment than the last.
 
How's our record against top 25 teams in the last few years? Sure, we beat bottom feeders like Nebraska, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, and Iowa State. But what about legitimately great programs?

To say that no one was satisfied that we averaged a higher score this year is disingenuous, but that's par for the course for you. I've seldom seen an Iowa fan say that Tim Lester wasn't a big improvement. His play calling is leagues better, even if he has to use Brian Ferentz leftovers instead of his own guys.

The "way we wanted them to" is a cute way to phrase wanting them to play better football. This year proved that Kirk's way of playing these last few years wasn't sustainable. We no longer have an All American kicker or lockdown Corner to save us.

We won more last year in spite of our offense being so bad. The teams we played this year were better than last year. And because we no longer have players like Cooper and Tory, the cracks are finally starting to show in Kirk's strategy. Having the mentality of "as long as we win nothing else matters", shows how short sighted and foolish it is when we play teams like Ohio State, Tennessee, and Penn State. Each loss being a bigger embarrassment than the last.
Don't even know where to start because pretty much none of what you said is related to my post you attached.

I think most of what you posted is crap, but I can only carry on one conversation at a time
 
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Don't even know where to start because pretty much none of what you said is related to my post you attached.

I think most of what you posted is crap, but I can only carry on one conversation at a time
That's the kind of response I'd expect from you at this point. But I'm not surprised you're tired of getting spanked.
 
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That's the kind of response I'd expect from you at this point. But I'm not surprised you're tired of getting spanked.
Work on your reading comprehension or keep up with your non-sequetors, bro.

If I'm getting spanked it isn't by you because we aren't even talking about the same thing
 
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How's our record against top 25 teams in the last few years? Sure, we beat bottom feeders like Nebraska, Minnesota, Northwestern, Purdue, and Iowa State. But what about legitimately great programs?

To say that no one was satisfied that we averaged a higher score this year is disingenuous, but that's par for the course for you. I've seldom seen an Iowa fan say that Tim Lester wasn't a big improvement. His play calling is leagues better, even if he has to use Brian Ferentz leftovers instead of his own guys.

The "way we wanted them to" is a cute way to phrase wanting them to play better football. This year proved that Kirk's way of playing these last few years wasn't sustainable. We no longer have an All American kicker or lockdown Corner to save us.

We won more last year in spite of our offense being so bad. The teams we played this year were better than last year. And because we no longer have players like Cooper and Tory, the cracks are finally starting to show in Kirk's strategy. Having the mentality of "as long as we win nothing else matters", shows how short sighted and foolish it is when we play teams like Ohio State, Tennessee, and Penn State. Each loss being a bigger embarrassment than the last.
You need a new team to bitch about. Iowa is clearly not good enough for you. Avoid embarrassment.
 
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Work on your reading comprehension or keep up with your non-sequetors, bro.

If I'm getting spanked it isn't by you because we aren't even talking about the same thing
Read better, bro.
You need a new team to bitch about. Iowa is clearly not good enough for you. Avoid embarrassment.
Keep crying at the fact you can't address my points.
 
Read better, bro.

Keep crying at the fact you can't address my points.
If you expect me to address your points in response to a post of mine, then they have to have something to do with my post. Otherwise, as you've seen, I may not feel the need to address your points.

Isn't this fun?
 
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If you expect me to address your points in response to a post of mine, then they have to have something to do with my post. Otherwise, as you've seen, I may not feel the need to address your points.

Isn't this fun?
It is! I get to show everyone your unwillingness to respond to my points when I directly quote the actual words you say. Pretty embarrassing!
 
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It is! I get to show everyone your unwillingness to respond to my points when I directly quote the actual words you say. Pretty embarrassing!
You couldn't have been more confused in your usage of the "direct quote", which was actually a paraphrase.

Doubled scoring output this season was not good enough for some fans, essentially because those points primarily came through running the ball, rather than passing it.

Trying to play it off as, "not playing good enough football", which is also a paraphrase rather than a direct quote, is completely inapplicable because 336 points = 336 points, no matter how you slice it. There is no path to scoring 336 points that is "better football", which was the point all along.

If you really want to get into it, if anything, scoring 28 points in a game primarily through the run is better than through the pass because it better compliments the defense, which makes it easier for 28 points to be a winning amount, which is what really matters.

But I was only using scoring output, in isolation from game result, to simplify a specific point.

Again, the rest of your post has nothing to do with my original post you responded to. So tell me I "don't have any balls" all you want, but it's 12:20 on Christmas morning and I'm going to bed.

Merry Christmas!

Go Hawks!
 
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You couldn't have been more confused in your usage of the "direct quote", which was actually a paraphrase.

Doubled scoring output this season was not good enough for some fans, essentially because those points primarily came through running the ball, rather than passing it.

Trying to play it off as, "not playing good enough football", which is also a paraphrase rather than a direct quote, is completely inapplicable because 336 points = 336 points, no matter how you slice it. There is no path to scoring 336 points that is "better football", which was the point all along.

If you really want to get into it, if anything, scoring 28 points in a game primarily through the run is better than through the pass because it better compliments the defense, which makes it easier for 28 points to be a winning amount, which is what really matters.

But I was only using scoring output, in isolation from game result, to simplify a specific point.

Again, the rest of your post has nothing to do with my original post you responded to. So tell me I "don't have any balls" all you want, but it's 12:20 on Christmas morning and I'm going to bed.

Merry Christmas!

Go Hawks!
Ah, so now you go from "pretty much none of what you said is related to my post you attached" to finally addressing some of my points that were directly responding to what you said in your original post? Good job, buddy!

"Doubled scoring output this season was not good enough for some fans, essentially because those points primarily came through running the ball, rather than passing it."
This is an unfounded and laughable point. No one is angry that points came from the run, we're upset because a passing attack is needed when the run doesn't work, and we don't have one. See Ohio State, UCLA, and Nebraska as prime examples. If your only proof are some random users on a forum, then it might be time to log off.

"But was it enough for you guys? No, because they didn't do it in the fashion you wanted them to."
The implication in this sentence is that fans believed we weren't playing good enough football. Again and again, we can go round and round, the difference being is that I have legitimate statistical evidence that the offensive output and performance is what has caused us to lose to top programs. Your argument is nothing but a blanket statement supported by nothing. Very few are advocating for an air raid or an Oregon offense. Most want a competent passing attack that we can rely on when the run is being stopped. The Nebraska game was won thanks to a passing play, not a running play, as an example. Michigan (2023) and Penn State both prove that a solid run game can be successful and even win you a national championship. But guess what they have that we don't? A passing threat.

Your logic becomes more and more absurd the more we dig deeper into this. Most of it based not on statistics from the actual games, but off the cuff posts from randoms online. Well, at least I can rest easy knowing that the offensive output, and the direct results of that output, are all there for everyone to see. Lester will focus more on passing because that's what our offense desperately needs, and his frustration at the lack of production on that front during the last bye week was clear. Hope you can cope with that new reality when it arrives!
 
Let me spell it out for you.

A player trying to choose a school understands what's happening at the schools on his list at a level that goes far beyond national perception.

How'd Iowa get a visit from Pribula in the first place if he only knows them to be the worst offense in the country? Is he that desperate?

And since you mentioned it, Brian was a ways down on the list of what happened to Iowa's offense
Free travel and tour, may have had an opportunity for guaranteed money, who knows.
 
Free travel and tour, may have had an opportunity for guaranteed money, who knows.
He could have gotten that from dozens of schools.

Point is, the perception of Iowa's offense/past offense did not keep him from being interested enough in Iowa to have them on his short list.

This has already been covered in this thread
 
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