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Precisely. I don't even care about these "lies" from O'Reilly.Originally posted by naturalmwa:
This story nails it about O'Reilly. No one is upset that he lied because we all assume he plays fast with the facts all the time. Williams is held to a higher standard because he was supposed to be a journalist.
The Wrap is not MSN.Originally posted by Hawk in SEC Country:
And the article came from MSN.com
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the irony.
The most recent survey I saw showed the median age of Fox News Channel viewers to be 45, which is younger than the median age for any of the other TV news channels, broadcast or cable. FNC also has a much larger share of the 25-49 age group.Originally posted by THE_DEVIL:
I have no problem with FNC.
There does need to be a counter balance to the left wing(what little there is) and middle of the road media in our country. I also wouldn't call it a cult as much as it is a demographic that is too old and set in their ways to open their lives to differing views. The interesting thing to watch for FNC is that as the geriatric make up of our country declines in quantity will the youngsters replace them in the same numbers to keep the network profitable.
+1Originally posted by Lone Clone:
1. I've been watching Fox News Channel regularly since late 2000 and I honestly don't recall ever seeing this guy, or hearing his name, or for that matter, a program called "Fox News Watch."
2. I don't disagree with anything he is quoted as saying. I might quibble with the pejorative word "cult," but he explains the loyalty to the network correctly when he explains that it's a reaction to the overwhelming liberalism of the other media.
3. He is also right about O'Reilly being held to a different standard than Williams, but they SHOULD be held to different standards. As I and others have said repeatedly -- and to deaf left-wing ears on this board -- O'Reilly gives opinions and Williams purports to be giving objective news reports. It is proper to hold Williams to the same standard as Bret Baier, but not Bill O'Reilly.
4. Basically, what he's saying is that people loyal to Fox News Channel actually understand what they are watching, while critics of the network do not.
As long as they understand that what they are watching is fiction, I'm cool with that.Originally posted by Lone Clone:
4. Basically, what he's saying is that people loyal to Fox News Channel actually understand what they are watching.
Which pretty much explains everything. Nothing to see here.Originally posted by Hawk in SEC Country:
And the article came from MSN.com
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the irony.
Well, it has a viewership that is bigger than all its competitors combined, so I doubt that their demographic is as narrow as you imply. All those younger viewers? People usually get more conservative as they grow up; many younger people already watch the network. Especially after the debacle of the last six years.Originally posted by THE_DEVIL:
I have no problem with FNC.
There does need to be a counter balance to the left wing(what little there is) and middle of the road media in our country. I also wouldn't call it a cult as much as it is a demographic that is too old and set in their ways to open their lives to differing views. The interesting thing to watch for FNC is that as the geriatric make up of our country declines in quantity will the youngsters replace them in the same numbers to keep the network profitable.
More so than PMSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc? That's rich.Originally posted by torbee:
As long as they understand that what they are watching is fiction, I'm cool with that.Originally posted by Lone Clone:
4. Basically, what he's saying is that people loyal to Fox News Channel actually understand what they are watching.
Wow, Wildcat started a thread. Unsettling to say the least. There must be a lot of cultists out there then since FNC has been dominating the cable ratings for over a decade (maybe that's what bothers you).Originally posted by wildcatdad:
As if we did not know already.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/former-fox-news-host-calls-network%e2%80%99s-audience-%e2%80%98a-cult%e2%80%99-led-by-bill-o%e2%80%99reilly-video/ar-AA9yA7h
Bingo. It depends upon what point you're trying to make.Originally posted by cruhawk:
Well, it has a viewership that is bigger than all its competitors combined, so I doubt that their demographic is as narrow as you imply. All those younger viewers? People usually get more conservative as they grow up; many younger people already watch the network. Especially after the debacle of the last six years.Originally posted by THE_DEVIL:
I have no problem with FNC.
There does need to be a counter balance to the left wing(what little there is) and middle of the road media in our country. I also wouldn't call it a cult as much as it is a demographic that is too old and set in their ways to open their lives to differing views. The interesting thing to watch for FNC is that as the geriatric make up of our country declines in quantity will the youngsters replace them in the same numbers to keep the network profitable.
ThIs. It's always comical how the people who complain that FNC is biased, are blind to the liberal bias everywhere else.Originally posted by rocketclone:
Fox ratings reflects a niche market since ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN are liberal news organizations lots of people turn to fFox. The percentages show more people trust fox over other networks.
I report, you decide.Originally posted by jthawk:
Wow, I don't think this thread had gone exactly the way the OP intended. Facts are stubborn things. Good for you LC for demolishing the left wing talking points about Fox. Oh and Torbee, you suggesting others are pushing fiction is really rich, well done. This made me laugh.
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"Liberal bias" or, as the educated call it: REALITYOriginally posted by hawkbleeder:
ThIs. It's always comical how the people who complain that FNC is biased, are blind to the liberal bias everywhere else.Originally posted by rocketclone:
Fox ratings reflects a niche market since ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC and CNN are liberal news organizations lots of people turn to fFox. The percentages show more people trust fox over other networks.
Tell us more about that fictional story you posted a week ago about Scott Walker. Did that come from Fox News too?Originally posted by torbee:
As long as they understand that what they are watching is fiction, I'm cool with that.Originally posted by Lone Clone:
4. Basically, what he's saying is that people loyal to Fox News Channel actually understand what they are watching.
Perfect example of what we see from too many modern journalists. He's not biased. It's just those other people who don't think like me that are biased.Originally posted by torbee:
"Liberal bias" or, as the educated call it: REALITY
As long as they expose the left loons in this country for what they are I'll watch. What I really love about FNC is the leftist, socialist democrats hate it and it sticks in your freakn' crawl.Originally posted by torbee:
As long as they understand that what they are watching is fiction, I'm cool with that.Originally posted by Lone Clone:
4. Basically, what he's saying is that people loyal to Fox News Channel actually understand what they are watching.
Originally posted by Metuo Accipiter:
Perfect example of what we see from too many modern journalists. Â He's not biased. It's just those other people who don't think like me that are biased.ÂOriginally posted by torbee:
"Liberal bias" or, as the educated call it: REALITY
And what's also funny about this post, Â after torbees monumental scott walker debacle you'd think he'd be avoiding this subject...
Ever hear the old expression "If you come to the conclusion that every single person around you is an asshole, the truth is probably that YOU are the asshole?"Originally posted by jthawk:
Originally posted by Metuo Accipiter:
Perfect example of what we see from too many modern journalists. Â He's not biased. It's just those other people who don't think like me that are biased.ÂOriginally posted by torbee:
"Liberal bias" or, as the educated call it: REALITY
And what's also funny about this post, Â after torbees monumental scott walker debacle you'd think he'd be avoiding this subject...
Not just journalists. Many on the left consider them to be smarter than everyone else. Typical delusion.
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Originally posted by torbee:
Ever hear the old expression "If you come to the conclusion that every single person around you is an asshole, the truth is probably that YOU are the asshole?"Originally posted by jthawk:
Originally posted by Metuo Accipiter:
Perfect example of what we see from too many modern journalists.  He's not biased. It's just those other people who don't think like me that are biased.ÂÂOriginally posted by torbee:
"Liberal bias" or, as the educated call it: REALITY
And what's also funny about this post,  after torbees monumental scott walker debacle you'd think he'd be avoiding this subject...
Not just journalists. Many on the left consider them to be smarter than everyone else. Typical delusion.
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Let's think about this - according to Fox and it's viewers:
Fox tells the truth.
And these professional organizations ALL are liberal liars: The New York Times, NPR, The Washington Post, BBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, The Weather Channel, The Los Angeles Times, The Guardian, The Economist, Every Single Local Newspaper in America.
Applying Occam's Razor - Fox is full of shit.
My colleagues?Originally posted by jthawk:
Originally posted by torbee:
Ever hear the old expression "If you come to the conclusion that every single person around you is an asshole, the truth is probably that YOU are the asshole?"Originally posted by jthawk:
Originally posted by Metuo Accipiter:
Perfect example of what we see from too many modern journalists.  He's not biased. It's just those other people who don't think like me that are biased.ÂÂOriginally posted by torbee:
"Liberal bias" or, as the educated call it: REALITY
And what's also funny about this post,  after torbees monumental scott walker debacle you'd think he'd be avoiding this subject...
Not just journalists. Many on the left consider them to be smarter than everyone else. Typical delusion.
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Let's think about this - according to Fox and it's viewers:
Fox tells the truth.
And these professional organizations ALL are liberal liars: The New York Times, NPR, The Washington Post, BBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, The Weather Channel, The Los Angeles Times, The Guardian, The Economist, Every Single Local Newspaper in America.
Applying Occam's Razor - Fox is full of shit.
Nope never heard that. I doubt that your colleagues appreciate the names you are calling them though
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Originally posted by torbee:
My colleagues?Originally posted by jthawk:
Originally posted by torbee:
Ever hear the old expression "If you come to the conclusion that every single person around you is an asshole, the truth is probably that YOU are the asshole?"Originally posted by jthawk:
Originally posted by Metuo Accipiter:
Perfect example of what we see from too many modern journalists.  He's not biased. It's just those other people who don't think like me that are biased.ÂÂÂOriginally posted by torbee:
"Liberal bias" or, as the educated call it: REALITY
And what's also funny about this post,  after torbees monumental scott walker debacle you'd think he'd be avoiding this subject...
Not just journalists. Many on the left consider them to be smarter than everyone else. Typical delusion.
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Let's think about this - according to Fox and it's viewers:
Fox tells the truth.
And these professional organizations ALL are liberal liars: The New York Times, NPR, The Washington Post, BBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, The Weather Channel, The Los Angeles Times, The Guardian, The Economist, Every Single Local Newspaper in America.
Applying Occam's Razor - Fox is full of shit.
Nope never heard that. I doubt that your colleagues appreciate the names you are calling them though
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Tasty WoB.Originally posted by millhawk:
As long as they expose the left loons in this country for what they are I'll watch. What I really love about FNC is the leftist, socialist democrats hate it and it sticks in your freakn' crawl.Originally posted by torbee:
As long as they understand that what they are watching is fiction, I'm cool with that.Originally posted by Lone Clone:
4. Basically, what he's saying is that people loyal to Fox News Channel actually understand what they are watching.
I didn't think it was a cheap shot - but I haven't been in the news game for over half a decade. Unless you count writing a goofy football column for Hawkeye Report as "journalism".Originally posted by jthawk:
Originally posted by torbee:
My colleagues?Originally posted by jthawk:
Originally posted by torbee:
Ever hear the old expression "If you come to the conclusion that every single person around you is an asshole, the truth is probably that YOU are the asshole?"Originally posted by jthawk:
Originally posted by Metuo Accipiter:
Perfect example of what we see from too many modern journalists.  He's not biased. It's just those other people who don't think like me that are biased.ÂÂÂOriginally posted by torbee:
"Liberal bias" or, as the educated call it: REALITY
And what's also funny about this post,  after torbees monumental scott walker debacle you'd think he'd be avoiding this subject...
Not just journalists. Many on the left consider them to be smarter than everyone else. Typical delusion.
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Let's think about this - according to Fox and it's viewers:
Fox tells the truth.
And these professional organizations ALL are liberal liars: The New York Times, NPR, The Washington Post, BBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, The Weather Channel, The Los Angeles Times, The Guardian, The Economist, Every Single Local Newspaper in America.
Applying Occam's Razor - Fox is full of shit.
Nope never heard that. I doubt that your colleagues appreciate the names you are calling them though
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Pls disregard. Just a cheap shot for which I know better.
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Originally posted by jscott78:
You are dealing here with ideologues. Do you know what an ideologue is? They are useful for one thing only: To be mocked.
This is actually very true Jscott. You are also very much an idealogue yourself though.Originally posted by jscott78:
You are dealing here with ideologues. Do you know what an ideologue is? They are useful for one thing only: To be mocked.
And I'm sure Torbee was a perfect example of an objective member of the media. Clearly his political bias could never have influenced his reporting.Originally posted by torbee:
I didn't think it was a cheap shot - but I haven't been in the news game for over half a decade. Unless you count writing a goofy football column for Hawkeye Report as "journalism".