Fran v Gard

[DavidGraeberBullSheetJobs]

Can anyone please explain to me why Gard is being talked about as coach of the year?

Fran lost two players to the NBA, one a national player of the year, and Gard had everyone back and was supposed to contend this year. Iowa was predicted to be near the bottom of the B10 and struggle for the NIT.

and I have to watch Gard - for years already - lying through his teeth about how his players, especially Davison, aren’t playing the dirtiest basketball in the country.

why does anyone think the badger coach deserves recognition, and instead, why isn’t he held accountable for the way he coaches and covers for his players bush league goon ball?

if that kind of thing happened off the court, he’d have multiple players arrested for assault and battery after every single game.

 

[rfgiowa]

I hear you, OP. I would love to see Iowa vs wiscy during the Big 10 tourny...the winner cements the coach of the year. Cheers and GO HAWKS!

 

[jonesy5960]

Can anyone please explain to me why Gard is being talked about as coach of the year?

Fran lost two players to the NBA, won a national player of the year, and Gard had everyone back.

and I have to watch Gard - for years already - lying through his teeth about how his players, especially Davison, aren’t playing the dirtiest basketball in the country.

why does anyone think the badger coach deserves recognition, and instead, why isn’t he held accountable for the way he coaches and covers for his players bush league goon ball?

if that kind of thing happened off the court, he’d have multiple players arrested for assault and battery after every single game.

Gard lost a lot as well and they were picked to finish with Iowa. They just clinched the B1G title. Can't stand that program but that's just the reality.

 

[ObeseMuffins]

Let em have the regular season awards. See us in the Sweet 16.

 

[General Tso]

Gard lost a lot as well and they were picked to finish with Iowa. They just clinched the B1G title. Can't stand that program but that's just the reality.

This. They demolished Iowa and are winning league titles on a system vs individual players. Pretty impressive, if not repulsive because I can't stand Wisconsin. I admit part of the reason I can't stand Wisconsin is pure jealousy.

 

[CookyMonster]

Lol @ Gard had everyone back. That right there tells me I shouldnt take you seriously. It was addition by subtraction for a few of those guys though.

 

[Eternal Return]

I admit part of the reason I can't stand Wisconsin is pure jealousy.

And I admit that the biggest reason I can't stand them is because they exist.

 

[nbanflfactory]

This. They demolished Iowa and are winning league titles on a system vs individual players. Pretty impressive, if not repulsive because I can't stand Wisconsin. I admit part of the reason I can't stand Wisconsin is pure jealousy.

In fball, sure. Bball, hell no. I'd rather be nw bball than have a guy like davidson

 

[CO_hawk]

Wisconsin got lucky in a couple of games. Iowa was unlucky in a couple of games. That right there is the difference. Of course Im a believer that Purdue and Illinois are the two best, just the record doesn't reflect that.

 

[BBHawk]

In fball, sure. Bball, hell no. I'd rather be nw bball than have a guy like davidson

Badger Boring Ball.

Not my style. Lots of clawing, holding, moving screens, and just plain dirty play by the BADgers.

 

[LUC8]

Wisconsin football is and has been respectable. UW Basketball on the other hand, not a fan of their program dating back to the early Bo Ryan days of wins with scores of 47-39 and that obnoxious grind-it-out style. It's one thing for a football game, another to play that way in basketball. That was before it got worse with Napoleon complex Gard and his nut-punching team, an arrogant bunch of pricks.

 

[jonesy5960]

This. They demolished Iowa and are winning league titles on a system vs individual players. Pretty impressive, if not repulsive because I can't stand Wisconsin. I admit part of the reason I can't stand Wisconsin is pure jealousy.

Not a jealousy thing for me. It's mostly a Brad Davison thing.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

Gard is a douche, so is Davison. They both bait the opposition into doing things then pull the victim card. That shouldn’t get you the coach of the year award.

If Iowa can get the 4 seed in the BTT, beat tOSU, I can’t wait to see Iowa bounce those aholes out in the semifinal game.

 

[HawkLogic]

Wisconsin lost their two bigs Reuvers and Potter and their starting PG in Trice.
Iowa lost Garza, Weezy, and Nunge and CJ. Nunge and CJ both had history of injuries
Turns out Nunge might have stayed healthy and big contributor, and CJ the traitor had Karma bite him

Extra Covid years: Wisconsin got Davison back and he has his best year of his career, and Iowa got JBO and CMAC
with JBO struggling mightily at 2G but better at PG, CMAC shooting much better 2nd half of B1G

Both Gard and Fran had superstars develop.....Keegan and Davis...

Gard went out and got a better true big....Fran at least got small ball big Rebraca

I think both teams have similar talent, but I would give the edge to Iowa on athleticism and I think Kris has
been underused and more talented than Wisconsin Wahl.

Gard may be a turd for enabling the scumball Davison, but winning the B1G clearly gives him the edge to likely voters in media and coaching.

Fran may have had some bad luck with Rutgers and PSU losses and so did Purdue with some close losses

If Fran can get this team to play even better defense, they could win the BTT, but Purdue still is bad matchup if Kris or Keegan get in foul trouble and Fran needs to get hawks ready for the Illini and Wisconsin on the boards.

 

[jimbob22]

Who votes on coach of year and Big Ten POY?

The Weasels are fairly unpopular thruout the league.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

The difference between the 2 teams this year is Wisconsin has won a helluva lot of close games that couldve easily gone the other way. Give them credit, but that's extremely fortunate. 1 point win over Maryland, 1 point win over Minnesota, 2 point win over Penn State, Indiana twice and this list goes on in the non con.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

Who votes on coach of year and Big Ten POY?

The fighting trash pandas are fairly unpopular thruout the league.

Fify.

 

[BubsFinn]

Fran vs. Gard? Give me Fran early in the 3rd round. Fran has a better reach.

 

[SCHawkFan]

No doubt we are discussing the top two vote-getters, but Gard will likely have the sole regular-season champion in the Big Ten. That will be what determines COY

 

[Packerphan]

Badgers are 16-5 in quad 1/2 games while Iowa played a total of 16 quad 1/2 games and are 8-8. You may consider them lucky, but at some point you also may have to consider the system Gard coaches is working.

 

[DodgerHawki]

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Wisconsin got lucky in a couple of games. Iowa was unlucky in a couple of games. That right there is the difference. Of course Im a believer that Purdue and Illinois are the two best, just the record doesn't reflect that.

In the Pomeroy rankings, Wisconsin's Luck factor is 5th in the country, and Iowa's is 303rd. This is from Pomeroy's site on the Luck Rating:

"The easiest one to understand is Luck, which is the deviation in winning percentage between a team’s actual record and their expected record using the correlated gaussian method. The luck factor has nothing to do with the rating calculation, but a team that is very lucky (positive numbers) will tend to be rated lower by my system than their record would suggest."

Wisconsin has won the vast majority of the close games they have played in this year. They deserved to win the conference title as they have won the games. They banked in 2 3-pointers to beat Purdue in the final minute, while Iowa gets a phantom foul called against Rutgers to lose the game at the RAC, and has Penn State throw in a 3 in OT to tie the game, right after Myles Dread clearly travelled. Thems are the breaks at times.

 

[DavidGraeberBullSheetJobs]

This. They demolished Iowa and are winning league titles on a system vs individual players. Pretty impressive, if not repulsive because I can't stand Wisconsin. I admit part of the reason I can't stand Wisconsin is pure jealousy.

I am not jealous of Wisconsin. I loathe the kind of basketball they play, and it doesn’t even seem like basketball.

Iowa on the other hand is so fun to watch. Iowa plays beautiful basketball. Just watch the highlights of Iowa versus Michigan and you will see what I mean by beautiful. It’s graceful it’s smooth it’s respectful and it actually follows the rules of the game.

Wisconsin plays boring, brutal “basketball” to win at any cost, even if that cost means putting other teams players at significant risk of injury.

 

[DavidGraeberBullSheetJobs]

Fran vs. Gard? Give me Fran early in the 3rd round. Fran has a better reach.

That’s another really good point. Fran was a great athlete and captain of his basketball team. I don’t think Gard ever played anywhere. And my sources say he even sucks at curling. But he’s good at bowling. Looks the part too.

A schlub. All Wisconsin his whole career.

Yes, it is really hard to respect someone who isn’t an athlete, and especially impossible to respect someone who doesn’t only coach disrespect, but coaches and excuses actually dangerous behavior. REPEATEDLY. Davison has no place on a basketball court.

at least Fran has had success elsewhere, and has some perspective on things. Gard is a legend in Plattville though, and the Mad Town crowd just shrugs away the deception and dirt and drinks to “win at any cost”.

I love and respect Madison and UW in general, and have many friends there, so this is difficult for me to say. But I’ve watched Davison/Gard for years and NOTHING changes. Zero accountability. Despicable.

 

[tippet1]

Can anyone please explain to me why Gard is being talked about as coach of the year?

Fran lost two players to the NBA, one a national player of the year, and Gard had everyone back and was supposed to contend this year. Iowa was predicted to be near the bottom of the B10 and struggle for the NIT.

and I have to watch Gard - for years already - lying through his teeth about how his players, especially Davison, aren’t playing the dirtiest basketball in the country.

why does anyone think the badger coach deserves recognition, and instead, why isn’t he held accountable for the way he coaches and covers for his players bush league goon ball?

if that kind of thing happened off the court, he’d have multiple players arrested for assault and battery after every single game.

I believe most publications had Wisconsin finishing around 9th or 10th.

 

[CleteyColgate]

Can anyone please explain to me why Gard is being talked about as coach of the year?

Wisconsin has a lot of 5 star Rivals, like the Murrays will be someday

 

[Aleksei]

Fran vs. Gard? Give me Fran early in the 3rd round. Fran has a better reach.

Fran won four straight against Wis before losing earlier this year. I’m hoping we can even the score in the B1G tournament. We’re definitely capable of it. Go Hawks. Always.

Wisconsin Badgers Men's Basketball History vs University of Iowa

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[Bulldogs1974]

situations are that different. Both lost most of their team. Difference is Gard is going to be the big ten title holder and is 9-3 in quad 1 games
Iowa is currently 4th, could be 6th and is 2-6 in quad 1 games.
Wisconsin wins on the road in the big ten, they play sound defense, it works...

 

[Bulldogs1974]

The badgers just win in football and basketball. I know we as iowa fans hate it but each one of use would trade their success for ours. If you don't agree with that you are lying to yourself.
In both sports they play both sides of the ball well. Whereas we just tend to do one really well and therein lies the difference in success.

 

[BBHawk]

The badgers just win in football and basketball. I know we as iowa fans hate it but each one of use would trade their success for ours. If you don't agree with that you are lying to yourself.
In both sports they play both sides of the ball well. Whereas we just tend to do one really well and therein lies the difference in success.

Did you mean "yous" as in plural of you?

 

[Bulldogs1974]

Did you mean "yous" as in plural of you?

us

 

[WinOneThisCentury II]

I hate Wisconsin basketball. Their win the other night against Purdue made me sick. Two banked long range shots in the last minute? Seriously. Remember Weiskamp's bank from the corner at Rutgers? Pretend Garza then banks a three from the top of the key to win it on the next possession. Unbelievable.

Fran has done a great job this year. However, Fran has a very ominous cloud hanging over him. The POSTSEASON. At some point you have to deliver something...anything...the only real tournament run he made was in the NIT several years ago with Iowa.

Gard will win because he has won the championship...maybe outright. That being said...I don't think there is a lot of love lost for Gard around the league. It will be interesting.

 

[Hawkenschpiel]

said...I don't think there is a lot of love lost for Gard around the league. It will be interesting.

I don't think he makes Howard's Christmas card list this year.

 

[Bearhawk0505]

They both did a great job this year with their squads. The simple answer to the OPs ? is one coach will win the regular season championship…not much more to read into it.

 

[CookyMonster]

Badgers are 16-5 in quad 1/2 games while Iowa played a total of 16 quad 1/2 games and are 8-8. You may consider them lucky, but at some point you also may have to consider the system Gard coaches is working.

Thanks for stopping by packerphag

 

[bucky44]

Both teams lost a lot of minutes from last season. Iowa lost 47% and Wisconsin lost 58%

While there is some luck involved in non-conference scheduling, Fran didn’t challenge his team with a tough non-conference schedule. Gard did the opposite

Wisconsin clinched a share of the B1G title and has a pretty good chance to do it outright. They’re on the 2/3 seed line. Iowa will finish somewhere 4-6 in the conference and are looking at the 6/7 seed line

Fran has done a nice coaching job and I believe in this Iowa team in the postseason more than most previous iterations, but it doesn’t seem like it’s much of a debate at this point

 

[blubberhawk]

Can anyone please explain to me why Gard is being talked about as coach of the year?

Fran lost two players to the NBA, one a national player of the year, and Gard had everyone back and was supposed to contend this year. Iowa was predicted to be near the bottom of the B10 and struggle for the NIT.

and I have to watch Gard - for years already - lying through his teeth about how his players, especially Davison, aren’t playing the dirtiest basketball in the country.

why does anyone think the badger coach deserves recognition, and instead, why isn’t he held accountable for the way he coaches and covers for his players bush league goon ball?

if that kind of thing happened off the court, he’d have multiple players arrested for assault and battery after every single game.

Win and awards will come his way. He has won nothing at Iowa. I hope that changes this year.
That being said, Gard sucks.

 

[ObeseMuffins]

Thanks for stopping by packerphag

Cut out the name calling/slurs, yeah? We’re adults.

 

[hawkisak]

Both teams lost a lot of minutes from last season. Iowa lost 47% and Wisconsin lost 58%

While there is some luck involved in non-conference scheduling, Fran didn’t challenge his team with a tough non-conference schedule. Gard did the opposite

Wisconsin clinched a share of the B1G title and has a pretty good chance to do it outright. They’re on the 2/3 seed line. Iowa will finish somewhere 4-6 in the conference and are looking at the 6/7 seed line

Fran has done a nice coaching job and I believe in this Iowa team in the postseason more than most previous iterations, but it doesn’t seem like it’s much of a debate at this point

I don't disagree with what you've said at all. I'll just add that Fran had little choice but to under schedule as he had so many unproven parts. Iowa is playing their best basketball now which is all you can ask. Wisconsin has overachieved this season and congrats to them for buying in to Gard's system. I look at Gard as a guy who survived a coup last season! This has to feel great to him. Davis has been a tremendous story. Davison is probably the one variable that makes opponents sour on the entire story.

 

[SSG T]

I dislike Wisconsin basketball as much as anything in sports (their style, pace, excusing every time Davison tries to hurt someone). But Gard has done a fantastic job this year. He deserves COY as much as Fran.

The only knock against him is not constantly suspending Davison for trying to hurt people.

 

[BigEddySprings]

I don't disagree with what you've said at all. I'll just add that Fran had little choice but to under schedule as he had so many unproven parts. Iowa is playing their best basketball now which is all you can ask. Wisconsin has overachieved this season and congrats to them for buying in to Gard's system. I look at Gard as a guy who survived a coup last season! This has to feel great to him. Davis has been a tremendous story. Davison is probably the one variable that makes opponents sour on the entire story.

It was a coup of 1. Alando Tucker. Since fired. Love Davison.