Fran's Buyout

[His Hawkness]

9 million if fired between July 1, 2018 and June 30, 2019
7.6 million if fired between July 1, 2019 and June 30, 2020
6.2 million if fired between July 1, 2020, and June 30, 2021
4.7 million if fired between July 1, 2021 and June 30, 2022
3.6 million if fired between July 1, 2022 and June 30, 2023

This sucks!

 

[WorldSeriesChamps2015]

69

 

[L. Wade Childress]

Not enough to matter

 

[hexumhawk]

Make it happen

 

[His Hawkness]

9 million if fired between July 1, 2018 and June 30, 2019
7.6 million if fired between July 1, 2019 and June 30, 2020
6.2 million if fired between July 1, 2020, and June 30, 2021
4.7 million if fired between July 1, 2021 and June 30, 2022
3.6 million if fired between July 1, 2022 and June 30, 2023

This sucks!

 

[large78]

Not as much as Captain Kirk.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

9 million if fired between July 1, 2018 and June 30, 2019
7.6 million if fired between July 1, 2019 and June 30, 2020
6.2 million if fired between July 1, 2020, and June 30, 2021
4.7 million if fired between July 1, 2021 and June 30, 2022
3.6 million if fired between July 1, 2022 and June 30, 2023

This sucks!

Wow, that Gary Barta sure knows how to wheel and deal.

 

[Pepperman]

9 million if fired between July 1, 2018 and June 30, 2019
7.6 million if fired between July 1, 2019 and June 30, 2020
6.2 million if fired between July 1, 2020, and June 30, 2021
4.7 million if fired between July 1, 2021 and June 30, 2022
3.6 million if fired between July 1, 2022 and June 30, 2023

This sucks!

Here's how Iowa needs to play this. Give him a season with his other son Patrick, Connor, Weiscamp, Garza, Bohannon, Moss, Frederick, and the incoming NYC guard (Toussaint I think?). If that doesn't look any different, you pay the amount in red and fire him either at the end of the B1G season or right after the B1G tourney.

Now, we gotta talk about Barta.

 

[Midwestfella12]

9 million if fired between July 1, 2018 and June 30, 2019
7.6 million if fired between July 1, 2019 and June 30, 2020
6.2 million if fired between July 1, 2020, and June 30, 2021
4.7 million if fired between July 1, 2021 and June 30, 2022
3.6 million if fired between July 1, 2022 and June 30, 2023

This sucks!

Barta strikes again

 

[His Hawkness]

Here's how Iowa needs to play this. Give him a season with his other son Patrick, Connor, Weiscamp, Garza, Bohannon, Moss, Frederick, and the incoming NYC guard (Toussaint I think?). If that doesn't look any different, you pay the amount in red and fire him either at the end of the B1G season or right after the B1G tourney.

Now, we gotta talk about Barta.

I like it, but wouldn't you fire him after June 30th of any given year?

 

[PlazaHawkeye]

Barta will give him another 5 year extension when he wins his first B10 game. Barta is a pro level AD.

 

[LarryMullenJr.]

9 million if fired between July 1, 2018 and June 30, 2019
7.6 million if fired between July 1, 2019 and June 30, 2020
6.2 million if fired between July 1, 2020, and June 30, 2021
4.7 million if fired between July 1, 2021 and June 30, 2022
3.6 million if fired between July 1, 2022 and June 30, 2023

This sucks!

Holy flaming balls of Zenith!!! Is that actually correct?!?!?! If so, I don't know that Barta should be fired, he should be forced to sit on the CHA concourse and be slapped by everyone who attends a game until we tire of doing it.


Also pay for everyone's ice cream cones for the rest of his breathing days. That's just beyond asinine negotiating!!

 

[Cydkar]

I like it, but wouldn't you fire him after June 30th of any given year?

Don't want the new guy to lose a year of recruiting. That would be a late start.

 

[hawk_a_holic]

Holy flaming balls of Zenith!!! Is that actually correct?!?!?! If so, I don't know that Barta should be fired, he should be forced to sit on the CHA concourse and be slapped by everyone who attends a game until we tire of doing it.


Also pay for everyone's ice cream cones for the rest of his breathing days. That's just beyond asinine negotiating!!

I think Barta just doesn't want to hire coaches. May be afraid of getting it wrong. So, he makes it financially feasible for his coaches to stay. I'll never know why he gives the insane buyouts he does other than he is not confident he can get a new coach right. He'd be the best boss in the world too...just show up, accountability at Iowa isn't a priority. Really, is KF accountable to anyone?

 

[SDHawkDoc]

As has been mentioned before, the first guy that needs to go is the AD.

Do you want someone that "negotiates" a deal like that making the next hire? And that's only one example of his many skillful moves to date.

 

[His Hawkness]

Don't want the new guy to lose a year of recruiting. That would be a late start.

Would it really matter though? For Iowa, that first class won't be much of anything either way.

 

[BrunoMars420]

So he is here until Patrick graduates

 

[His Hawkness]

I think Barta just doesn't want to hire coaches. May be afraid of getting it wrong. So, he makes it financially feasible for his coaches to stay. I'll never know why he gives the insane buyouts he does other than he is not confident he can get a new coach right. He'd be the best boss in the world too...just show up, accountability at Iowa isn't a priority. Really, is KF accountable to anyone?

KF is the boss of Barta as opposed to the other way around. Thankfully for Iowa, KF has for the most part been a good coach.

 

[mtdew_fever]

If Barta didnt lock him down, them another school could have come along and taken him.

Barta = the problem

9 million if fired between July 1, 2018 and June 30, 2019
7.6 million if fired between July 1, 2019 and June 30, 2020
6.2 million if fired between July 1, 2020, and June 30, 2021
4.7 million if fired between July 1, 2021 and June 30, 2022
3.6 million if fired between July 1, 2022 and June 30, 2023

This sucks!

 

[WorldSeriesChamps2015]

So he is here until Patrick graduates

Actually, he is here until Jack graduates in like 2030.

 

[BrunoMars420]

Actually, he is here until Jack graduates in like 2030.

Yuck

 

[David1979]

They have to get rid of him after this year if they don't make the tournament but I don't trust Barta to do it.

 

[HerkyFan]

The dates align to the fiscal year for the University and the rest of the State for that matter. Pretty sure it is that way with all state employees on an employment contracts.

 

[Pepperman]

This is just an idea... I don't know the language of his contract... BUT, if he shows poor behavior (chair slams, screaming at officials, tossed from games) I wonder if there is a clause that we can fire him and not have to pay the buyout?

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

They have to get rid of him after this year if they don't make the tournament but I don't trust Barta to do it.

I would agree. This should be a do or die year.

 

[Ronman]

But, but, but....Our guys do it the RIGHT WAY!

 

[GOHOX69]

This is just an idea... I don't know the language of his contract... BUT, if he shows poor behavior (chair slams, screaming at officials, tossed from games) I wonder if there is a clause that we can fire him and not have to pay the buyout?

As an attorney, you are correct that most contracts have clauses for moral terpitude, behavior and the like. These, when triggered, automatically void the contract and absolve the offeror (the University of Iowa) from having to pay the offeree (the Coach) any money. However, these acts usually have to be egregious (read felonies or unbelievably embarrassing). Committing a violent crime, sleeping with coeds, embezzling the program, that sort of thing. Screaming at officials, getting tossed from games etc. not gonna do it as Bush 41 would have said.

 

[Raptorpeeps]

They have to get rid of him after this year if they don't make the tournament but I don't trust Barta to do it.

Iowa was pretty much universally picked to finish around 10th in the B1G this year. Accordingly, I don't get the sentiment that this should be a do or die tourney year. Just doesn't seem reasonable.

NIT would be a good addition to Fran's current Body of Work (TM). You can't fire the guy before his younger son, Patrick, gets a chance to turn this thing around.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

Iowa was pretty much universally picked to finish around 10th in the B1G this year. Accordingly, I don't get the sentiment that this should be a do or die tourney year. Just doesn't seem reasonable.

NIT would be a good addition to Fran's current Body of Work (TM). You can't fire the guy before his younger son, Patrick, gets a chance to turn this thing around.

Sure you can.

Patrick looks to be a capable player. But he's not a program changer.

I'm relatively ambivalent on Fran, although thinking that given the amount of time he's been at Iowa we've probably seen his best by now.

I have a stronger sentiment about his boss.

In no way would I want the current AD making any significant hire. Until he's gone, I'd probably ride things out barring a complete collapse.

 

[His Hawkness]

Iowa was pretty much universally picked to finish around 10th in the B1G this year. Accordingly, I don't get the sentiment that this should be a do or die tourney year. Just doesn't seem reasonable.

NIT would be a good addition to Fran's current Body of Work (TM). You can't fire the guy before his younger son, Patrick, gets a chance to turn this thing around.

Is this real life? Expecting a third straight year of not making the Tournament in a coach's 9th year is acceptable. Not looking like they will make the tournament for the forseeable future either.

 

[TheHawkeyeDudeAbides]

Waiting to see long time ticket holders to demand a refund. Or quit buying. Or the top donor booster to call Gary's hand. This crap is not entertaining.

We need a Dollar Bill type (Billions character) to ram his big SUV into Gary Barta's vehicle (not while he is in it, of course) and send him a message to quit ("DOING US"). Relieve some frustration.

 

[David1979]

We just need to wait until Fran's youngest kid is a Senior at Iowa, by that time we should be able to make an adequate judgment on whether he is the right coach here. It is only been 9 years, he just needs time to get all his sons playing for him and get the right guys for his system.

 

[Ycusi]

Pay it.

 

[TritonHawkeye]

The only way Fran is fired is if boosters pickup a portion of that payout. I just don't think he has lost confidence with the boosters like what we saw with Lickliter and Alford. My guess is he is here until July of 2021.

Don't worry he has plenty of time to put together a good team and get another extension!

 

[RocknRollface]

Here's how Iowa needs to play this. Give him a season with his other son Patrick, Connor, Weiscamp, Garza, Bohannon, Moss, Frederick, and the incoming NYC guard (Toussaint I think?). If that doesn't look any different, you pay the amount in red and fire him either at the end of the B1G season or right after the B1G tourney.

Now, we gotta talk about Barta.

I think its make the NCAA this year or hes done.

This is year 9 with his second full recruiting cycle being upper class men.

It wouldn't be fair to wait until both his sons are on the team.

Tousaint and Pat aren't going to make a big enough difference to matter as freshmen. The team will be worse next year without Cook.

 

[RocknRollface]

Iowa was pretty much universally picked to finish around 10th in the B1G this year. Accordingly, I don't get the sentiment that this should be a do or die tourney year. Just doesn't seem reasonable.

NIT would be a good addition to Fran's current Body of Work (TM). You can't fire the guy before his younger son, Patrick, gets a chance to turn this thing around.

Its year freaking 9. His team is full of upperclassmen. That's insane to wait another year IMO.

 

[RocknRollface]

Fran screwed himself when he loaded up on bums for guards two years in a row then loaded up on bigs the following two years.

Hes blown it unless he can figure out a way to fix this group.

 

[EpenesaEpenesa]

Iowa was pretty much universally picked to finish around 10th in the B1G this year. Accordingly, I don't get the sentiment that this should be a do or die tourney year. Just doesn't seem reasonable.

NIT would be a good addition to Fran's current Body of Work (TM). You can't fire the guy before his younger son, Patrick, gets a chance to turn this thing around.

No way. If Iowa doesn’t make the tournament this year that has to be it

 

[Rustys Dad]

If Fran misses on the Dance this year he should be gone ... No more excuses. If he can't win with this "veteran/experienced" lineup then he can't win with any lineup. No more "wait 'til next year" ...

It's interesting to read the variety of excuses some fans continue to come up with (wait 'til Connor gets here.' 'Well, wait 'til Patrick gets here ...' Holy shit ... I'd like for them to be MY boss ... where showing up for work earns you a pay raise. Enough of this failed Fran experiment.

 

[TheTruthTheWholeTruth]

I think Barta just doesn't want to hire coaches. May be afraid of getting it wrong. So, he makes it financially feasible for his coaches to stay. I'll never know why he gives the insane buyouts he does other than he is not confident he can get a new coach right. He'd be the best boss in the world too...just show up, accountability at Iowa isn't a priority. Really, is KF accountable to anyone?

Barta is super proud of Iowa’s coaching longevity and continuity. He’s not making a change unless Fran’s results bottom out to Lick like levels.