Hell of it is by 2023 he’ll lokely have something in place through 2027 and they buyout will probably be even higher. Farta really screwed the pooch on this one, and did it in a cloak and dagger fashion.
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And of course Gary likes to frame that as of winning and doing it right are mutually exclusive.
I know it’s spread out, but I remember reading (in the Gazette?) that because we owed Lick ($800,000?/year) over a certain time period that we couldn't offer certain coaches $3+ million that it would take.
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Actually I don’t know the details. If the buyout is for some reason payable in a lump sum than that’s bad negotiating.
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It looks like Fran is well on his way to accomplishing exactly that.
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-------We just need to wait until Fran's youngest kid is a Senior at Iowa, by that time we should be able to make an adequate judgment on whether he is the right coach here. It is only been 9 years, he just needs time to get all his sons playing for him and get the right guys for his system.
Please tell me that you are trolling.....you are, right???
Please tell me that you are trolling.....you are, right???
Coach Fran knows he's not going to be fired and that's why the team is in decline. Is he really completely dedicated to winning at Iowa or is it just a job?
That pisses me off more than the extension itself... he's made enough mistakes to justify his firing. Get rid of him.
McCaffery certainly has his faults, primarily recruiting athletes and coaching defense, but to believe he really isn't interested in winning at Iowa is pretty shortsighted.
I really don't think the defense has anything to do with the coaching. The defense sucks because of the recruiting. The core of this team has been here three years and struggled on D all three years. The players don't fit the full throttle system that Fran runs. This team might be more efficient on D if they played Bo ball. Limit defensive possessions and limit turnovers to limit fast breaks.
I doubt we hire anyone for the head job with serious NCAA dings. I’m a little surprised we hired Speraw.
Good time time fire Barta in 2019. These contracts are absolutely a fireable offense.
You folks don't seem to get it. Barta doesn't fire or give extensions to a major sport without say so.
He’s the Athletic Director...he owns all activity in the...Athletic Department.
Unbelievable. How does an AD this incompetent keep his job? Not just the buyout...but the ridiculous timing. JULY?! That effectively gives the guy another year. If you dump a guy and go after a new coach you do it in March/April when the shopping is good.
What an idiot!
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How would you describe 6 Jrs and 1 Sr who've been playing and some of them starting for 3 years? Newbies? The core of this team is built around 3rd year players.
up·per·class·man
Dictionary result for upperclassman
/ˌəpərˈklasmən/
noun
US
plural noun: upperclassmen
- a junior or senior in high school or college.
Iowa Juniors/Seniors:
Isaiah Moss: JR
Tyler Cook: JR
Jordan Bohannon JR
Nicholas Baer SR
Ryan Kriener JR
Maishe Dailey JR
Iowa Freshmen/Sophomores
Luka Garza-SO
Joe Wieskamp-FR
Connor McCaffery-RS FR
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I have been a Fran fan until now. This upperclassmen team is not good, the assistant coaches are not relevant and the entire coaching staff is NOT getting the job done. Pretty sad but for the past 2 weeks I have DVR’d the games as I don’t want to watch the garbage show. I then google the next morning to decide whether to watch or delete. The last 2 games I have deleted without watching. Fire Barta, Fran and staff! Payout be damned! Iowa fans deserve better. I don’t know what is wrong with this team but it’s very negative and needs to be throttled like what Lick forced us into.
I have been a Fran fan until now. This upperclassmen team is not good, the assistant coaches are not relevant and the entire coaching staff is NOT getting the job done. Pretty sad but for the past 2 weeks I have DVR’d the games as I don’t want to watch the garbage show. I then google the next morning to decide whether to watch or delete. The last 2 games I have deleted without watching. Fire Barta, Fran and staff! Payout be damned! Iowa fans deserve better. I don’t know what is wrong with this team but it’s very negative and needs to be throttled like what Lick forced us into.
Ok ...I might of been clueless a little here. Based on minutes played they are really young. Touche
That is the solution. Fire him right now for cause (his profane outburst) and pay him nothing.
You are wrong. While his behavior doesn't rise to the level of the crimes you mention, it not only severely impacts the reputation of the University, it amounts to verbal assault, and harms the University to the extent that the ill-will will make it impossible to get fair treatment moving forward.
Fire him and let him sue. He won't win.
No, they aren't.
And all six upperclassmen have played significant minutes since they were freshmen. That's six players with almost three full seasons under their belts (not including Baer who has more).
Iowa is far from raw and inexperienced.
Nice try, but wrong again. Cook, JBo, Pemsl, Baer, Moss, Dailey, Kriener all played significant minutes as Freshmen (RS Frosh for Moss).
Minutes/Game in B1G play, '16-'17, '17-'18, and this season-to-date
JBo 30.5, 31.8, 30.4
Cook 26.0, 28.0, 31.4
Baer 23.9, 21.4, 19.6
Pemsl 19.7 16.4, 15.0
Moss 16.8, 24.2, 23.5
Kreiner 9.3, 10.4, 13.7
Dailey 5.8, 16.5, 13.3
This is a team with plenty of experience. You're not just wrong....you're waaaay wrong.
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Pay the money and go grab Drake’s staff for a much cheaper price initially. They are younger, hungrier, cheaper, and most importantly could end up being great(we know what Fran is at this point).
No way they could fire Fran under that clause...he's done nothing atypical of a basketball coach. Even more...if they did fire him and somehow win in court...good luck getting another decent coach. IOWA would be trashed by the sports media and other coaches.
I actually agree with this. I've watched some chunks of a couple of their games this year (yes, I know, it now makes me an expert on them), and like what that staff is doing. Hell, I'm pretty sure I saw a couple of actual offensive sets and the kids played together and actually defended.
It would be interesting to hear Ellingson's observations after playing under both coaching staffs.
