Gaetz, 10 others introduce ‘Ukraine Fatigue’ resolution calling for end to U.S. aid

[cigaretteman]

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who wants the United States to halt additional military and financial aid to Ukraine as it battles invading Russian forces, led a group of 11 lawmakers in introducing a “Ukraine Fatigue” resolution.
The resolution demands that the United States end its military support for Ukraine and urges “all combatants to reach a peace agreement,” according to a statement from Gaetz’s office. The United States has provided more than $24.2 billion to Ukraine “since the beginning of Russia’s unprovoked and brutal invasion on February 24,” the Pentagon has said.
Gaetz and other extreme-right Republicans have criticized the continuing support for Ukraine. And while House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) hasn’t weighed in on Gaetz’s latest resolution, he suggested last year that if Republicans won the House, there would no longer be a “blank check.”
Co-sponsors of Gaetz’s resolution include Reps. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), Paul A. Gosar (R-Ariz.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) and Thomas Massie (R-Ky.). All except for Boebert voted in April against expediting Ukraine aid, which led Democrats to call them the “Putin Caucus,” a reference to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/09/biden-florida-social-security-medicare/#link-4Y5G77KNZFB5FCM3WUCWQLDMIU

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

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[cigaretteman]

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Um, no. They don't call it the Putin Caucus for nothing, comrade.

 

[Finance85]

Meaningless proposal at this point. Based on the trickle of aid approach being used by Biden to draw things out, the best possible case is to put general earmarks and limits on aid, and some accountability. I hate throwing good money after bad, but Ukraine still has a chance to win. What I hope doesn't happen is the US pays for rebuilding Ukraine.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Um, no. They don't call it the Putin Caucus for nothing, comrade.

Where is the line on how much we give before we make other people start answering the call?


A trillion dollars?

5

10


2 years ago every lefty rag in the world was calling Ukraine racist and corrupt, now silence.

What was the deal with Ukraine walking out a bunch of its government officials?


There is a sign in Yellowstone national park that says " don't feed the bears, they will forget how to feed themselves" Europe is a bear in this example. They need to come up with some answers themselves.

 

[torbee]

Where is the line on how much we give before we make other people start answering the call?


A trillion dollars?

5

10


2 years ago every lefty rag in the world was calling Ukraine racist and corrupt, now silence.

What was the deal with Ukraine walking out a bunch of its government officials?


There is a sign in Yellowstone national park that says " don't feed the bears, they will forget how to feed themselves" Europe is a bear in this example. They need to come up with some answers themselves.

With all due respect, you should really refrain from trying to weigh in on global politics. Because you are woefully ignorant.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

With all due respect, you should really refrain from trying to weigh in on global politics. Because you are woefully ignorant.

Where do you draw the line torbs? Is it just an open checkbook?

 

[GOHOX69]

Where do you draw the line torbs? Is it just an open checkbook?

You want all of Europe to be Russia? Do you know the term lebensraum? You should look that up.

 

[TheCainer]

Where is the line on how much we give before we make other people start answering the call?


A trillion dollars?

5

10


2 years ago every lefty rag in the world was calling Ukraine racist and corrupt, now silence.

What was the deal with Ukraine walking out a bunch of its government officials?


There is a sign in Yellowstone national park that says " don't feed the bears, they will forget how to feed themselves" Europe is a bear in this example. They need to come up with some answers themselves.

Link on every lefty rag?

 

[StormHawk42]

Republicans love Russia. Strange times indeed.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

You want all of Europe to be Russia? Do you know the term lebensraum? You should look that up.

No. I want us to have an exit strategy so that we don't end up sending billions of dollars worth of shit to thr other side of the globe for the next 20 years only to inevitably end up sending our boys.


See the middle east.

 

[TheCainer]

Republicans love Russia. Strange times indeed.

No collusion, though.

 

[TC Nole OX]

Putin assets vote YES

 

[Huey Grey]

No. I want us to have an exit strategy so that we don't end up sending billions of dollars worth of shit to thr other side of the globe for the next 20 years only to inevitably end up sending our boys.


See the middle east.

This is nothing like Afghanistan. The two are completely night and day.

 

[TheCainer]

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who wants the United States to halt additional military and financial aid to Ukraine as it battles invading Russian forces, led a group of 11 lawmakers in introducing a “Ukraine Fatigue” resolution.
The resolution demands that the United States end its military support for Ukraine and urges “all combatants to reach a peace agreement,” according to a statement from Gaetz’s office. The United States has provided more than $24.2 billion to Ukraine “since the beginning of Russia’s unprovoked and brutal invasion on February 24,” the Pentagon has said.
Gaetz and other extreme-right Republicans have criticized the continuing support for Ukraine. And while House Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) hasn’t weighed in on Gaetz’s latest resolution, he suggested last year that if Republicans won the House, there would no longer be a “blank check.”
Co-sponsors of Gaetz’s resolution include Reps. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), Paul A. Gosar (R-Ariz.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) and Thomas Massie (R-Ky.). All except for Boebert voted in April against expediting Ukraine aid, which led Democrats to call them the “Putin Caucus,” a reference to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/09/biden-florida-social-security-medicare/#link-4Y5G77KNZFB5FCM3WUCWQLDMIU

What we really need is a Gaetz Fatigue resolution, and a few others.

 

[BlueRidgeHawk]

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[torbee]

No. I want us to have an exit strategy so that we don't end up sending billions of dollars worth of shit to thr other side of the globe for the next 20 years only to inevitably end up sending our boys.


See the middle east.

Again, you are speaking from a position of ignorance.

There are - literally - several HUNDRED links in the Ukraine war thread on this site you could use to inform yourself better. I'd recommend you stop posting on this issue until you are up to speed to avoid looking dumb. Speaking as a friend.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Again, you are speaking from a position of ignorance.

There are - literally - several HUNDRED links in the Ukraine war thread on this site you could use to inform yourself better. I'd recommend you stop posting on this issue until you are up to speed to avoid looking dumb. Speaking as a friend.

To what end torbs? I'm not saying we shouldn't do what we are doing, I'm saying we need an exit strategy.

 

[Joes Place]

Where is the line on how much we give

We're spending a TINY FRACTION of our overall military budget (MOSTLY outdated equipment/arms) to entirely destroy the army of our geopolitical rival.

It's a BARGAIN.

 

[BlueRidgeHawk]

To what end torbs? I'm not saying we shouldn't do what we are doing, I'm saying we need an exit strategy.

Ye of little patience or strength. You'd fold like a tent in WWI and WWII era

 

[BlueRidgeHawk]

We're spending a TINY FRACTION of our overall military budget (MOSTLY outdated equipment/arms) to entirely destroy the army of our geopolitical rival.

It's a BARGAIN.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Ye of little patience or strength. You'd fold like a tent in WWI and WWII era

The day Russia attacks pearl harbor or Alaska is the day I say we turn Russia into a wasteland. See the difference?

 

[torbee]

To what end torbs? I'm not saying we shouldn't do what we are doing, I'm saying we need an exit strategy.

There are about 100 reasons why talk of an "exit strategy" is premature. And again, on this very site there is a lengthy and informative number of links to very smart, legitimate sources that can explain why. I urge you take advantage.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

We're spending a TINY FRACTION of our overall military budget (MOSTLY outdated equipment/arms) to entirely destroy the army of our geopolitical rival.

It's a BARGAIN.

And 30 seconds later you will be bitching about how much we spend. As if this isn't going to be the next reason we decide to spend a shit ton more money.


Send them all the old shit.. what's the plan for not being there in 2024?

 

[Lindemann]

And 30 seconds later you will be bitching about how much we spend. As if this isn't going to be the next reason we decide to spend a shit ton more money.


Send them all the old shit.. what's the plan for not being there in 2024?

WDDT is just fooling with you guys. His outrage is performance. I refuse to believe that an American could be this horrible.

Impossible.

 

[TC Nole OX]

WDDT is just fooling with you guys. His outrage is performance. I refuse to believe that an American could be this horrible.

Impossible.

Genocide of Ukrainians doesn't affect him so he doesn't care

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Genocide of Ukrainians doesn't affect him so he doesn't care

Man, it's almost like I have to say I think what we have done so far is good but we need to have an exit strategy on every post.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

We're spending a TINY FRACTION of our overall military budget (MOSTLY outdated equipment/arms) to entirely destroy the army of our geopolitical rival.

It's a BARGAIN.

This is exactly right. There are two large geopolitical threats to the USA. For a very small fraction of our total defense budget we are neutering one of them and almost assuredly causing the other to think twice on Taiwan. This is the greatest military ROI in generations.

Now I do agree we spend too much on defense. This effort is actually proving that there can be lower cost ways to achieving our geopolitical aims. There are plenty of areas in our defense spending we should scrutinize.

 

[Huey Grey]

Man, it's almost like I have to say I think what we have done so far is good but we need to have an exit strategy on every post.

Screw this exit talk. We're staying in until we complete the job. Russia needs to get properly creampied.

 

[BelemNole]

Yep, that’s who I’d expect to have co-signed. The dumbest of the dumb.

 

[TC Nole OX]

Man, it's almost like I have to say I think what we have done so far is good but we need to have an exit strategy on every post.

The exit strategy is russia out of UKR territory. Any thing less than that and we will be spending far more money in the not too distant future when Putin or his successor invade additional parts of UKR or another one of their neighbors.

 

[torbee]

Man, it's almost like I have to say I think what we have done so far is good but we need to have an exit strategy on every post.

It would be more informative for you to contemplate why you are in agreement with Matt Gaetz.

Frankly, that should terrify you.

The man is a moron. And a pervert. And a traitor to his country.

 

[BlueRidgeHawk]

It would be more informative for you to contemplate why you are in agreement with Matt Gaetz.

Frankly, that should terrify you.

The man is a moron. And a pervert. And a traitor to his country.

Yes, a mainstream Republican

 

[torbee]

The exit strategy is russia out of UKR territory. Any thing less than that and we will be spending far more money in the not too distant future when Putin or his successor invade additional parts of UKR or another one of their neighbors.

Or attack a NATO member like one of the Baltic states or Poland, necessitating ACTUAL boots on the ground, which WDDT claims to be against. As mentioned, there are MANY, MANY links from smart people regarding this issue in the 1,000-page war thread.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

It would be more informative for you to contemplate why you are in agreement with Matt Gaetz.

Frankly, that should terrify you.

The man is a moron. And a pervert. And a traitor to his country.

 

[DooBi]

We're spending a TINY FRACTION of our overall military budget (MOSTLY outdated equipment/arms) to entirely destroy the army of our geopolitical rival.

It's a BARGAIN.

Is it coming out of the military budget? I'm asking. I don't know.

 

[lucas80]

It should be noted that all of those Republicans were active participants in the 1/6 insurrection.

 

[torbee]

It should be noted that all of those Republicans were active participants in the 1/6 insurrection.

Amazing how many people can't connect the obvious dots.

 

[lucas80]

Putin is getting desperate. He's pushing all angles as hard as possible to weaken US resolve.

 

[ICHawk-I]

What we really need is a Gaetz Fatigue resolution, and a few others.

To be fair to Gaetz his MO is that he loses interest in things the older they get.