GAINES: Male player leads San Jose State to women’s volleyball win at University of Iowa
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True. A three legged cat could lead San Jose State to a victory over our volleyball team.
To play devils advocate here if she was born with a male name and changed it to Emily what makes you think she didn't change her last name also?
How do you know they were forced to keep quiet about it? Do you think they'd stay silent when other teams refuse to play them?
The main red flag to me is the teammates suing her. If you weren't 100% sure she was born he and you filed a lawsuit that would be really ballsy. 
It's plausible, but I think most keep their family name. I mean the birth certificate search would not be proof positive of anything but it would be enough for us to make a "more likely than not" decision.
Who is forcing her teammates when she played with at Coastal Carolina in 2020 to be quiet? What about any teammates that graduated or transferred to another school.
My point stands she has been playing college volleyball for years and suddenly in her red shirt senior season it comes out that she's allegedly a trans woman?
Ok but why hasn't there been a denial? They've had multiple games forfeited against them due to this. Further a lawsuit claiming a random teammate is trans when they are not is really odd.
But really I just feel like a simple search of birth certificates from Offutt AFB from around 2002 would probably make everything a lot more clear either way.
Yeah, but this is a college athlete, presumably in much better shape than either of us were at that age.
For 4 years? Social media being what it is today, I find it dubious that all 15+ players ( whatever the size of a volleyball roster is) all stayed quiet for years.
Read the players statement, if she isn't sure, she is basing it 1 that she overheard another classmate call the player a male, then states they had a conversation. She has not seen anything or has any other proof. Not to say the conversation did not occur. Or that the player is trans. However no smoking gun so far.The main red flag to me is the teammates suing her. If you weren't 100% sure she was born he and you filed a lawsuit that would be really ballsy.
Right? What has been released is very flimsey. "A classmate called her 'dude' when greeting her one time." Okay? So what?
You do? I find it totally believable if the school was making them choose between a full scholarship or speaking out.
I'm just basing it off the lawsuit is all. If they don't know 100% and they filed a lawsuit? They are really fing dumb.
Do you recall the environment just a few years ago regarding this subject matter? If a person spoke out about it and protested, they were destroyed.
The tide has turned on this issue and people are speaking freely.
Ive seen claims real name is Brayden, but where are all the classmates that when to school with her/him. Seems this could be put to bed really quickly.
I think people are skeptical because no one is speaking freely. We have Gaines, a teammate with flimsy reasoning, a couple opposing teams that are saying it but also not saying it, and literally no one else.
She has no made a statement confirming or denying, neither has SDSU, Coastal Carolina, or anyone else that claims to know her.
Lol destroyed...
Riley Gaines spoke out about it and cashed in her failed swimming career to become a right wing grifter.
And all she had to do was tie Liah Thomas for 5th place in a race.
For a few weeks, sure. For years? I have a harder time that any group of college athletes would stay quiet. Especially in today’s era of constant player movement. What’s to stop a play who graduated or transferred out from saying something?
According to Hudl she has been playing as a female since 2018 for sure. Junior and Senior season. So if changed would have occurred around age 16 to 17 if true. The body is rail thin, not to say can't be a male, but this isn't case where she looks physically superior. The spikes are similar to other elite female players so to me this isn't really a safety issue. Overall seems crazy this is becoming such a big story. I am surprised San Jose State has not come out though and supported the player.
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I'm sure you do. But you also don't believe trump lost the last election.
I can't think of many things I care less about than if a trans player is playing mountain west volleyball.
So she is a male because she jumps high?Even for you that is some silly shit.
I haven't commented once in this thread. Simply reporting information to spur discussion.
Gaines is a victim with this individual from San Jose State?? What is her standing, how was she harmed?
So just to be clear it does appear the athlete is a trans athlete. The school came out and stated it is following NCAA guidelines. Which ultimately means it is following the trans policy. Even still, she does not look as if stronger than any other player. The college level with trans athletes gets more questionable to me. I am all for at the high school level assuming have fully transitioned (ie should be very few of these due to under age 18 restriction). However the player claiming she was not safe being in a room with this individual. Please, that is a joke. Claiming she hits 80 mph . . . the strongest spikes are about 75 to 76 mph. I would really like to see if she spikes harder than any other college athlete. Beyond that this appears to be making a major issue, and making her and her team a political football.
Like the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee, the updated NCAA policy calls for transgender student-athlete participation for each sport to be determined by the policy for the national governing body of that sport. If there is no NGB policy for a sport, it would then be determined by the policy for that sport’s international federation. If there is no international federation policy, it would be determined by policy criteria previously established by the International Olympic Committee. Sport-specific policies are subject to ongoing review and recommendation by the NCAA Committee on Competitive Safeguards and Medical Aspects of Sports to the Board of Governors.
Like the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee, the updated NCAA policy calls for transgender student-athlete participation for each sport to be determined by the policy for the national governing body of that sport. If there is no NGB policy for a sport, it would then be determined by the policy for that sport’s international federation. If there is no international federation policy, it would be determined by policy criteria previously established by the International Olympic Committee. Sport-specific policies are subject to ongoing review and recommendation by the NCAA Committee on Competitive Safeguards and Medical Aspects of Sports to the Board of Governors.
Phase Two – regular season and championships
Phase Two of the NCAA transgender student-athlete participation policy requires transgender student-athletes to provide documentation that meets the 2010 NCAA policy plus meet the sport standard for documented testosterone levels at three points in time: 1. Prior to any competition during the regular season; 2. Prior to the first competition in an NCAA championship event; and 3. Prior to any competition in the non-championship segment. See the transgender student-athlete eligibility review procedures for more information.
She's good, not great. She would likely never see the court at Nebraska, but Nebraska has a transfer that's 6'5" and was the Big Ten player of the year in 2022 that rarely sees the court. We have 6 players that hits as hard or harder. If you are afraid to play SJSU for player safety you have no business playing Division 1 volleyball.
FWIW her NIL value should go through the roof with her transition team alone. Nice job!
And congrats to Iowa 2-0 in the B1G this year. They have already won 2 more conference matches than all of last year.
Looks like the Nevada players and their school officials are at odds with one another.
nevadasportsnet.com
Nevada says it will move forward with match against SJSU volleyball despite player vote
The University of Nevada said Monday it will move forward with its scheduled home match against San Jose State this month despite a team vote against playing.Ci
nevadasportsnet.com
Sad players do not want to play a good team with a player that may be trans, but is not significantly better than other good volleyball players. I am not sure what the answer is. This player is not specifically harming anyone, but politically this as become a nuclear football.
How about if this player is biologically a man, he plays with, idk other men.
If its accurate, he transitioned when he was 16. He is rail thin, and his frame looks very similar to most females. He would have also had to pass testing to qualify for NCAA. Now I have always said, I think participation should be allowed at the high school level, I am much more hesitant at the college level, and at the professional levels absolutely no.
