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23, I’m going to get off after this, but he’s not Shaq at the line. He was in the 70’s last year. Yes, he was not good at the line today but if it’s so easy why is every team not just intentionally fouling him at the end of the game? And FYI, you don’t use your best player as a decoy. Carry on.
 
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Correct. Remember Hoosiers? Jimmy chitwood? Ring. A bell? Th way wanted to use him as a decoy and the whole team was against it. What does jimmy say? “I’ll make it.”
Think about that
 
Absolutely right, not a liability at all. In fact, he’s our best offensive option at any time really. Leading scorer in the big ten, as a junior. He will score more times than not any time we get him the ball and he gets a one on one matchup. We have no one like him. Not to mention, I don’t think I’ve ever, ever seen anyone play as hard as him. Yes, that includes some very infamous hawks. Faulting garzilla in any way today I don’t think is the answer. You win some you lose some.
You clearly don't understand the game if you don't think a piss-poor free throw shooter in a close end of game scenario is a liability. They most certainly are, every last one of them.

You score 70 points, and miss 5 free throws in the last 2 minutes of a one possession game, and get beat, those 70 points don't mean Jack. It's an L. You see, the object is to Win the game.
 
I wonder if it would help Luka to take a dribble or two before his ft’s.

Compose himself a little bit & slow down his routine at the line.
 
And today he missed, his mechanics are fine, he will make them next time. This is not a shaq issue in the least.
call me moron:

Your math skills suck, as does your Basketball IQ and your mouth breather posting ability. Bye Nancy.
 
You clearly don't understand the game if you don't think a piss-poor free throw shooter in a close end of game scenario is a liability. They most certainly are, every last one of them.

You score 70 points, and miss 5 free throws in the last 2 minutes of a one possession game, and get beat, those 70 points don't mean Jack. It's an L. You see, the object is to Win the game.

No one is talking about a piss poor free throw shooter, Luka is an average free throw shooter who had a bad day. Also we weren't in a position today where they were intentionally fouling us, maybe Fran will take him out in that situation if the struggles continue.

With Luka's fire and desire to win, I have no doubt he will do everything in his power to eliminate the misses.
 
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Check out these crazy team stats

20-39 (51%) in 2 point FGs
11-26 (42%) from 3 point range
31- 65 (48%) Overall shooting

That type of shooting normally will win you ball games (even with 7 missed FTs).

Because the problem is what it's always been under Fran: defense.

I can live with the zone and slow feet if our offense is good. What I can't live with is giving up fast break dunks and layups off of turnovers to track athletes when there's an opportunity to foul at mid-court. None of our players are apparently coached to do this. Their whole team is full of guys who shoot bricks, but won't miss on any high flying circus acts near the basket.

Then one of their small guys is draining NBA threes over our zone when we had a late lead. Scouting report? Timeout? What is Fran doing on the sideline to ensure OT at worst? Who is informing our players to take their one shooter's shot away? We just let this happen against Malachi Flynn.
 
23, I’m going to get off after this, but he’s not Shaq at the line. He was in the 70’s last year. Yes, he was not good at the line today but if it’s so easy why is every team not just intentionally fouling him at the end of the game? And FYI, you don’t use your best player as a decoy. Carry on.
I hate to break it to you, but this ain't last year. It is also not the first game of the year.

They invented something this year called Statistics, which allows you to track things like number of free throws shot, versus number of free throws made. Then you apply math skills or someone does it for you, and it gives you a %, which you can use to adjust your in-game strategy if you're a Basketball Coach.

64% and dropping ain't Shaq, but it ain't good either.
 
In the 14th game of the season and "worn out down the stretch?"

I guess more ladders or suicides at practice should be in store for Luka and the guys.

Sorry, but honesty compels me to suggest this is one of the most asinine comments so far this basketball season.

They were playing basketball in a sauna. Or did you not notice? A guy the size of Garza who plays as hard as he does is gonna get leg weary in those conditions no matter what great shape he is in, no matter what game of the year it is.

Garza continues to play at an All-American level. You may want to pick on someone your own size. :rolleyes:
 
Because the problem is what it's always been under Fran: defense.

I can live with the zone and slow feet if our offense is good. What I can't live with is giving up fast break dunks and layups off of turnovers to track athletes when there's an opportunity to foul at mid-court. None of our players are apparently coached to do this. Their whole team is full of guys who shoot bricks, but won't miss on any high flying circus acts near the basket.

Then one of their small guys is draining NBA threes over our zone when we had a late lead. Scouting report? Timeout? What is Fran doing on the sideline to ensure OT at worst?
Sorry, but honesty compels me to suggest this is one of the most asinine comments so far this basketball season.

They were playing basketball in a sauna. Or did you not notice? A guy the size of Garza who plays as hard as he does is gonna get leg weary in those conditions no matter what great shape he is in, no matter what game of the year it is.

Garza continues to play at an All-American level. You may want to pick on someone your own size. :rolleyes:
I love me some Garza and he is definitely playing at an All-Big Ten level BUT, he didn't perform at the FT line today.
 
I'm talking strictly at the end of close games, which this one was. A 64% free throw shooter and dropping is an opponents dream.

Garza doesn't have to touch the ball every offensive possession, that's why you have teammates, and preferably those that can make free throws in crunch time. He can be on the floor and should be, but he doesn't have to touch it just to get hacked.

Opponents aren't fouling him on purpose anymore more than you foul anyone else to prevent an easy bucket in a close game.

He gets fouled allot all through the game.

Iowa doesn't have the option of not giving him the ball when ever possible at any point in the game.

It would be nice if they did but this team doesn't have players that can consistently create offense off the dribble.
 
I hate to break it to you, but this ain't last year. It is also not the first game of the year.

They invented something this year called Statistics, which allows you to track things like number of free throws shot, versus number of free throws made. Then you apply math skills or someone does it for you, and it gives you a %, which you can use to adjust your in-game strategy if you're a Basketball Coach.

64% and dropping ain't Shaq, but it ain't good either.
Just think of the freak out if Iowa lost a close game like this and Fran’s game plan, the closing minutes, was to intentionally keep the ball out of Garza’s hands. He’s your best player and gives the best opportunity to score on offense.
 
But 23 said they have this thing called statistics now and we should use Garza as a decoy or take him out at the end of the game. That happens to almost all 1st team all Americans doesn’t it?
 
Some of these comments make me think these negative posters never played the game. You have a 7 foot 250 pound hustling all the time big man playing in 80 plus degrees and 35 minutes of fierce action and all you want I bitch about is your best player missing a few FT and end of game. Give me a freakin’ break.
 
Just think of the freak out if Iowa lost a close game like this and Fran’s game plan, the closing minutes, was to intentionally keep the ball out of Garza’s hands. He’s your best player and gives the best opportunity to score on offense.

At this point hes the conference's best offensive player.

You don't have the option to not give home the ball.
 
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Iowa has gotten 2 all-star games from Garza and lost them both. Offense is not the problem, but turnovers and bad defense is.
That's 2 road loses that this team has played zero defense, and you aren't going to win many road games in the BIG allowing almost 90 or more points a game. Period!
Turnovers, if this team allows over 15 turnovers a game and 16 or more points off those turnovers, it's going to be an uphill battle to compete in this league.
It this team can't push the ball up the court without turning over the ball a ton then Fran needs to slow it down and play more like that team north of Illinois...
Fran also has a dilemma, he has only 2 consistent scorers, 5 that has the ability to score but can't be counted on, and 2 that have no business being on the court in any circumstance but believes in them and they play.
And finally, Fredrick left the court with 4:02 left in the 1st half and never returned. Network went to break and unless you were there, there's no word if C.J walked off the court with a limp, but, and I'm no doctor by any stretch of the imagination, at no point while Joe was on the court did I see any evidence of a sprain, at least not severe enough to not be taped up at half time to allow him to get back into action. This injury could be more serous then just a sprain like a stress fracture....hope not for C.J. and this team going forward....
 
Iowa has gotten 2 all-star games from Garza and lost them both. Offense is not the problem, but turnovers and bad defense is.
That's 2 road loses that this team has played zero defense, and you aren't going to win many road games in the BIG allowing almost 90 or more points a game. Period!
Turnovers, if this team allows over 15 turnovers a game and 16 or more points off those turnovers, it's going to be an uphill battle to compete in this league.
It this team can't push the ball up the court without turning over the ball a ton then Fran needs to slow it down and play more like that team north of Illinois...
Fran also has a dilemma, he has only 2 consistent scorers, 5 that has the ability to score but can't be counted on, and 2 that have no business being on the court in any circumstance but believes in them and they play.
And finally, Fredrick left the court with 4:02 left in the 1st half and never returned. Network went to break and unless you were there, there's no word if C.J walked off the court with a limp, but, and I'm no doctor by any stretch of the imagination, at no point while Joe was on the court did I see any evidence of a sprain, at least not severe enough to not be taped up at half time to allow him to get back into action. This injury could be more serous then just a sprain like a stress fracture....hope not for C.J. and this team going forward....

The majority of the turnovers didn't come in transition.

Most were during half court offense.

Slowing the pace down wouldn't help anything.
 
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He's a liability in close games at the end right now. Use him as a decoy because they're going to hack him. 64% on the year and 6 of 13 last I saw today and might have missed a couple after that.

Really miss JBo at the end of games, and having Frederick out hurts too.

15 turnovers to their 7 and poor free throw shooting will get your ass beat most of the time, Home or Away.

Hawks played OK overall. Good effort.
No he is not! Without him there are no close games. We would of gotten blown out today without him.
 
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Because the problem is what it's always been under Fran: defense.

I can live with the zone and slow feet if our offense is good. What I can't live with is giving up fast break dunks and layups off of turnovers to track athletes when there's an opportunity to foul at mid-court. None of our players are apparently coached to do this. Their whole team is full of guys who shoot bricks, but won't miss on any high flying circus acts near the basket.

Then one of their small guys is draining NBA threes over our zone when we had a late lead. Scouting report? Timeout? What is Fran doing on the sideline to ensure OT at worst? Who is informing our players to take their one shooter's shot away? We just let this happen against Malachi Flynn.

Looking at the stat sheet---the 15 turnovers Iowa had to only 8 from psu look to be killer stat. One of the things I've liked about Connor at the "4" is he is a low turnover guy compared to Pemsl/Kriener...but we give up rebounding. If Iowa had a stout defense to go along with this offense, we would be really good team. Defense still is a weak spot and the turnovers have gone up recently.
 
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In the 1990s, Indiana had a great shooter by the name of Brian Evans who did not dribble at the FT line: The ref tossed him the ball; he lined up the seams, and fired away.

I thought it looked cool and I started to do the same when playing. No dribbles at the stripe.

As a person who tried it, I wish Luka would take a few dribbles at the line. In my experience there is a temptation to rush your free throw without the dribble, and I think at the end of the PSU game you can see Connor telling Luka to slow down. With that small tweak in his routine, I feel his percentage would rise.

Yes, he shot well last year at the line, but this is not the first time he has gone through a FT slump. Get the ball, take a few dribbles, do the ball spin, rip the net.
 
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No one is talking about a piss poor free throw shooter, Luka is an average free throw shooter who had a bad day. Also we weren't in a position today where they were intentionally fouling us, maybe Fran will take him out in that situation if the struggles continue.

With Luka's fire and desire to win, I have no doubt he will do everything in his power to eliminate the misses.
Show me one time where I said Luka Garza lost this game for Iowa. You can't.

Garza fights thru fouls for "and ones" during the course of a game quite often. Those fouls at end of games aren't the same, they aren't "maybe I'll block it clean fouls", they are HARD fouls with the pure design to send someone to the free throw line and the ball nowhere near a basket.

64% is bad, if you think different then fine by me, but I'm limiting the touches of my poor free throw shooters at the end of games, and I guarantee you I'll win far more games by doing so.

Here's a hint: When Jordan Bohannon is available at end of games, the ball is in his hands ANY time we can get it to him, and often that is by forcing it to him in any way possible. There is a reason for that, it's simple math, and he delivers. Any more questions? Didn't think so.
 
Damn you won’t give up. Not sure if you noticed when the ball didn’t hardly go to him in the last 5 minutes we had nobody who wanted to shoot, which is why Conor ended up shooting at the end of the shot clock. How did that go? FYI, if you watched the game, they not one time intentionally fouled him. As a matter of fact he hardly scored or touched the ball in the last 5 minutes. Only guy who could get his own shot was Joe T. They eliminated Garza and we couldn’t score. But carry on.
 
Looking at the stat sheet---the 15 turnovers Iowa had to only 8 from psu look to be killer stat. One of the things I've liked about Connor at the "4" is he is a low turnover guy compared to Pemsl/Kriener...but we give up rebounding. If Iowa had a stout defense to go along with this offense, we would be really good team. Defense still is a weak spot and the turnovers have gone up recently.

Kriener had to play the 4 with Pemsl backing him up because CJ went out.

This teams 5 guards and 2 bigs works pretty well but if anyone is out it's tough to win.
 
Looking at the stat sheet---the 15 turnovers Iowa had to only 8 from psu look to be killer stat. One of the things I've liked about Connor at the "4" is he is a low turnover guy compared to Pemsl/Kriener...but we give up rebounding. If Iowa had a stout defense to go along with this offense, we would be really good team. Defense still is a weak spot and the turnovers have gone up recently.
In a 3 point game... remember that there was a flukey swing where Joe Weiskamp slipped on a slick spot and they got a runout...

With Frederick hurt, Kriener banged up for part of the game, I don't take any negatives away from losing a close game against Penn St. this year.
 
"Hack-a-Garza" doesn't roll off the tongue quite like the "Hack-a-Happ" That you guys were screaming for last year. It does make me smile a little bit ;) He is a good player, high usage like Happ, So he will get lots of attention. He seems tireless but I'm sure you have looked at his stats late in games vs. early. What are his minutes per game?
 
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