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Gavin Newsom splits with Democrats on transgender athletes, calling it "deeply unfair"

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First new podcast guest was nonother than Charlie Kirk. Gavin really wants to be president.


California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a pioneer for LGBTQ+ rights who decades ago upset leaders in his own party when he defied state law and issued marriage licenses to same-sex couples, suggested Democrats were in the wrong in allowing transgender athletes to participate in female college and youth sports.

“I think it’s an issue of fairness, I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness — it’s deeply unfair,” Newsom said in his debut podcast episode of “This is Gavin Newsom.” “I am not wrestling with the fairness issue. I totally agree with you.”
 
First new podcast guest was nonother than Charlie Kirk. Gavin really wants to be president.


California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a pioneer for LGBTQ+ rights who decades ago upset leaders in his own party when he defied state law and issued marriage licenses to same-sex couples, suggested Democrats were in the wrong in allowing transgender athletes to participate in female college and youth sports.

“I think it’s an issue of fairness, I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness — it’s deeply unfair,” Newsom said in his debut podcast episode of “This is Gavin Newsom.” “I am not wrestling with the fairness issue. I totally agree with you.”
And there it is. The first democrat with a pair of balls. I'm guessing a logical stance such as this is Gavin's way of entering the race to become our next president.
 
He’s not wrong. Trans folks deserve equal rights, and they deserve our goodwill and compassion. But since Title IX liberals have been fighting to protect women’s sports, and the traditional liberal in me finds this to be a matter of fairness, and a matter of protecting women’s athletics.

Certainly there are mean-spirited bigots who also fight against trans in women’s sports. And they have that stance for bad reasons. But I’m not going to change my opinion just because some lowlifes agree.
 
And there it is. The first democrat with a pair of balls. I'm guessing a logical stance such as this is Gavin's way of entering the race to become our next president.

Newsom, who is term-limited and can’t run for governor in 2026, has been a staunch advocate for LGBTQ+ rights. Last year, he signed a law banning schools from notifying parents about their children’s gender identity. The governor has also slammed red states for their policies on transgenderism.

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In 2020, he signed a law requiring incarcerated transgender and nonbinary prisoners to be housed based on their gender identity.

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In the past, Newsom has decried critics of transgender athletes in girls’ sports for not showing more “sensitivity” on the issue and underscored that there is only a small number of trans athletes in women’s sports.


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Newsom, who is term-limited and can’t run for governor in 2026, has been a staunch advocate for LGBTQ+ rights. Last year, he signed a law banning schools from notifying parents about their children’s gender identity. The governor has also slammed red states for their policies on transgenderism.

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In 2020, he signed a law requiring incarcerated transgender and nonbinary prisoners to be housed based on their gender identity.

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In the past, Newsom has decried critics of transgender athletes in girls’ sports for not showing more “sensitivity” on the issue and underscored that there is only a small number of trans athletes in women’s sports.


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for the rest of your life you will never find a worse american human/politician than trump.
Your opinion on politicians no longer matters. Voting for trump a second or third time will forever by my litmus test on a person's stupidity.
 
Good for him. Hopefully some others start to follow and we can get someone decent in the white house. It’s been far too long.
On a personal note, I wonder why it takes someone so long to break away from the group when they know it’s the right thing.
 
First new podcast guest was nonother than Charlie Kirk. Gavin really wants to be president.


California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a pioneer for LGBTQ+ rights who decades ago upset leaders in his own party when he defied state law and issued marriage licenses to same-sex couples, suggested Democrats were in the wrong in allowing transgender athletes to participate in female college and youth sports.

“I think it’s an issue of fairness, I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness — it’s deeply unfair,” Newsom said in his debut podcast episode of “This is Gavin Newsom.” “I am not wrestling with the fairness issue. I totally agree with you.”
Most of us agree with him. The point is it's a molehill issue turned into a MASSIVE issue and the rubes bought it. Jeebus we're still having to discuss something that's barely a thing and affects next to nobody.
 
Good for him. Hopefully some others start to follow and we can get someone decent in the white house. It’s been far too long.
On a personal note, I wonder why it takes someone so long to break away from the group when they know it’s the right thing.
Same reason a middle school kid won't stand up to a group of "popular kids" who are picking on the nerd in the cafeteria.
 

That was actually a fantastic answer to this complicated question. He was intelligent, thoughtful, sought common ground, and admitted he - and we - don’t yet have the answer.

Thanks for such a good example of how good people behave. It serves as such a contrast to who half our country have thrown their support behind. It shows who we can be as a people.
 
show me the clip where trump changes his opinion. I'll wait for the next year while you get those clips lined up.

for the rest of your life you will never find a worse american human/politician than trump.
Your opinion on politicians no longer matters. Voting for trump a second or third time will forever by my litmus test on a person's stupidity.

There are numerous threads about Trump,

Be a man! Don't deflect.
 
Same reason a middle school kid won't stand up to a group of "popular kids" who are picking on the nerd in the cafeteria.
I’d think an adult would be a little more mature about it and not care what a few people think. Being popular is everything for an 12-13 year old. Doing the right thing for the American people should be priority #1 for a politician. It should be an easy decision. Especially when a whole other group of people (republicans) and some democratic voters would agree with him.
 
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That was actually a fantastic answer to this complicated question. He was intelligent, thoughtful, sought common ground, and admitted he - and we - don’t yet have the answer.

Thanks for such a good example of how good people behave. It serves as such a contrast to who half our country have thrown their support behind. It shows who we can be as a people.

The fact that many of you, including Newsom, don't have an answer is quite telling.
 
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Good for him. Hopefully some others start to follow and we can get someone decent in the white house. It’s been far too long.
On a personal note, I wonder why it takes someone so long to break away from the group when they know it’s the right thing.
In my opinion, I believe maga jumped on these few instances of this happening and attached it to the Dems. When in fact there hasn’t been Dem politicians advocating for trans women to play women’s sports. They were just too dumb to realize what was happening and didn’t say anything about it. Sometimes common sense leaves people when they try to let everyone do whatever they want in the guise of fairness. Have you seen any politician publicly pushing letting trans women compete against women in sporting competitions? I haven’t. If there have been I haven’t seen it. Any laws proposed to allow it by Dems?
 
I watched a documentary on the issue a few years ago and it really opened my eyes about the subject. I think it's like 90-95% of transgender athletes aren't even high level athletes. Its the one who are really good which pisses everyone off. I understand both sides of this argument. Glad I don't have to pick a side
 
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I watched a documentary on the issue a few years ago and it really opened my eyes about the subject. I think it's like 90-95% of transgender athletes aren't even high level athletes. Its the one who are really good which pisses everyone off. I understand both sides of this argument. Glad I don't have to pick a side
I believe it is the governing bodies of these leagues that need to legislate whom can compete against who.
 
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In my opinion, I believe maga jumped on these few instances of this happening and attached it to the Dems. When in fact there hasn’t been Dem politicians advocating for trans women to play women’s sports. They were just too dumb to realize what was happening and didn’t say anything about it. Sometimes common sense leaves people when they try to let everyone do whatever they want in the guise of fairness. Have you seen any politician publicly pushing letting trans women compete against women in sporting competitions? I haven’t. If there have been I haven’t seen it. Any laws proposed to allow it by Dems?

You have to be kidding.

US Senate Democrats block bill to ban trans athletes from women’s sports​

Democratic senator says trans athletes ‘deserve an ally’ after Republican-led bill quashed in razor-sharp 51-45 vote

 
You have to be kidding.

US Senate Democrats block bill to ban trans athletes from women’s sports​

Democratic senator says trans athletes ‘deserve an ally’ after Republican-led bill quashed in razor-sharp 51-45 vote

See, this speaks to exactly what I wrote. I have not read the bill that was presented, but if you read the article it hit the bullseye.

Sen. Tuberville is trying to churn the social wars about something that really doesn’t exist,” Sen. John Hickenlooper, D-Colo., said after he voted to block the bill. Hickenlooper has announced he will run for re-election in 2026 and, despite his vote, said he does not believe transgender women should be able to compete in women’s sports if the other women object.
 
In my opinion, I believe maga jumped on these few instances of this happening and attached it to the Dems. When in fact there hasn’t been Dem politicians advocating for trans women to play women’s sports. They were just too dumb to realize what was happening and didn’t say anything about it. Sometimes common sense leaves people when they try to let everyone do whatever they want in the guise of fairness. Have you seen any politician publicly pushing letting trans women compete against women in sporting competitions? I haven’t. If there have been I haven’t seen it. Any laws proposed to allow it by Dems?
Not sure how one would miss one of the main talking points of the other political party.
Anyway, glad someone has finally stepped up. Let’s hope the others open their eyes and see it too.
 
I also said an adult.
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See, this speaks to exactly what I wrote. I have not read the bill that was presented, but if you read the article it hit the bullseye.

Sen. Tuberville is trying to churn the social wars about something that really doesn’t exist,” Sen. John Hickenlooper, D-Colo., said after he voted to block the bill. Hickenlooper has announced he will run for re-election in 2026 and, despite his vote, said he does not believe transgender women should be able to compete in women’s sports if the other women object.

But it does exist.
 
As we have something that looks like a self coup going on, threats towards a ton of countries, switching sides to back Russia, and the price of eggs soaring my care about trans athletes competing in sports is at an all time low. It seems pretty god damn inconsequential.

I figured this would end up being the end result at the end of the day. It can be a bit of an esoteric issue when you have to defend it and a binary issue when you argue against it.
 
In my opinion, I believe maga jumped on these few instances of this happening and attached it to the Dems. When in fact there hasn’t been Dem politicians advocating for trans women to play women’s sports. They were just too dumb to realize what was happening and didn’t say anything about it. Sometimes common sense leaves people when they try to let everyone do whatever they want in the guise of fairness. Have you seen any politician publicly pushing letting trans women compete against women in sporting competitions? I haven’t. If there have been I haven’t seen it. Any laws proposed to allow it by Dems?
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Schools and colleges largely could not ban nonbinary and transgender students from sports teams, the Biden administration said Thursday in a long-promised proposed rule to protect these students from discrimination.

“Every student should be able to have the full experience of attending school in America, including participating in athletics, free from discrimination," U.S. Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona said in a statement that included details of the rule.

The proposal comes at a time when a number of states are banning transgender students from participating on sports teams that align with their gender identity.

"Under the proposed regulation, schools would not be permitted to adopt or apply a one-size-fits-all policy that categorically bans transgender students from participating on teams consistent with their gender identity," the Education Department said.
 
Finally. I got lit up a bit on here for saying that Harris should have done EXACTLY this. It was blatantly obvious this is the way to get this issue off Dems backs.

He is still unelectable to the presidency at the moment. No California politician is winning the swing states until something dramatic changes in the minds of the electorate. Now Trump may f*ck things up so bad that happens, but for now I would much rather a Bashear, Whitmer or Shapiro to be the dem nominee.
 
First new podcast guest was nonother than Charlie Kirk. Gavin really wants to be president.


California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a pioneer for LGBTQ+ rights who decades ago upset leaders in his own party when he defied state law and issued marriage licenses to same-sex couples, suggested Democrats were in the wrong in allowing transgender athletes to participate in female college and youth sports.

“I think it’s an issue of fairness, I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness — it’s deeply unfair,” Newsom said in his debut podcast episode of “This is Gavin Newsom.” “I am not wrestling with the fairness issue. I totally agree with you.”
I applaud him for stating his view. He’s right, but I also don’t really care all that much. It’s not affecting my life outside of Republicans using it as a wedge issue.
 
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