Do you think Lindsay is a pitcher or a catcher?
It would he unfair if he was a catcher…but I think that is his position of choice.
Gavin Newsom splits with Democrats on transgender athletes, calling it "deeply unfair"
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It would he unfair if he was a catcher…but I think that is his position of choice.
President Trump isn't in charge of people pooping on the sidewalks in California... but you know who is? Gavin Newscum
The medical field has been co-opted by ideologues.
I have been one of the most vocal critics of the trans movement. I am thrilled Gavin took this stance.
We need some strong democrats to come out against trans in women sports because that will make it acceptable for other democrats to do the same. I have no doubt there are other dems who feel the same as Gavin, but were scared of the backlash if they went against the dem party's stance.
I encourage Republicans to support every Democrat who takes this common sense stance. This could be the start of finding an issue to unite us. Sure dems will claim they knew all along that it wasn't right, but let it slide. everyone will come to this conclusion at a different speed.
Gavin is a flip flopper, but society still needs him to stop the illogical support for trans competing against women. This will likely increase his chances to be president and I still support him saying this.
10 years ago when trans became a mainstream issue, people genuinely did not know what to think, so they trusted the "experts" who turned out to be lgbt activists. Now we know that these people had an agenda and we're very bias.
The trans movement is a bad movement to try to normalize transgenderism. It is criminal the way it was introduced and applied to kids. It needs to stop. Even if it means someone like Gavin benefitting from it. BTW, I can't stand gavin.
We need some strong democrats to come out against trans in women sports because that will make it acceptable for other democrats to do the same. I have no doubt there are other dems who feel the same as Gavin, but were scared of the backlash if they went against the dem party's stance.
I encourage Republicans to support every Democrat who takes this common sense stance. This could be the start of finding an issue to unite us. Sure dems will claim they knew all along that it wasn't right, but let it slide. everyone will come to this conclusion at a different speed.
Gavin is a flip flopper, but society still needs him to stop the illogical support for trans competing against women. This will likely increase his chances to be president and I still support him saying this.
10 years ago when trans became a mainstream issue, people genuinely did not know what to think, so they trusted the "experts" who turned out to be lgbt activists. Now we know that these people had an agenda and we're very bias.
The trans movement is a bad movement to try to normalize transgenderism. It is criminal the way it was introduced and applied to kids. It needs to stop. Even if it means someone like Gavin benefitting from it. BTW, I can't stand gavin.
The issue is Democrats who are strictly anti-Trump like many posters in this forum are reluctant to come public with support as they refuse to support anything that Trump does. I believe the Trump admin will applaud Dem leaders who finally decide to come forward on this such as Fetterman.
This is sort of how the left pushes their progressive ideology. They go way far left on an issue to the point the right has to counter with what should be common sense and then gets blasted for it. The far left relents to a less whackadoo position, but still moves the Overton window more left in the process.
Here's how it works:
The left: Boys have a period, can get pregnant, and as long as they've transitioned there's no issue with them using women's spaces or playing in women's sports
Average Joe: - That's whackadoo we don't want girls getting injured by biological males because little Tommy feels cute and wants to be Tiffany.
The right: Let's ban all biological males from playing in girls sports and keep them out of women's spaces
The left: You're a bigot and a transphobe and this isn't even actually happening so shut up.
The right: ummm yes it is happening, and here's 10 examples of it.
The left: okay so it's such a small number of people that you're making a mountain out of mole hill. There's no surgeries on kids being done either, you're just making stuff up.
The right: hmmmm odd this isn't happening but here's an order for these things to stop on kids, why would you have to stop something that isn't happening?
The left: you're a bigot and a transphobe
We will see how this ends, but I'm willing to bet the only reason we haven't moved further left on this today is because Trump won.
Pretty soon the board Dems will be comparing Newsome to Manchin.
They MADE it an issue by being on the WRONG SIDE of a 80-20 subject.
If they were on the 80 side it wouldn’t have been an issue.
Pretty simple. Gavin gets it.
How so? Does the left achieve that by taking decisions about their reproductive health away? Who did that one?
Dude you lack self-awareness. I feel sorry for any women who are in your life.
it's probably closer to 98-2 issue. There's the Joe's places of the world who have never been laid or felt the touch of a woman let alone have kids who don't see this as an issue, but their position really is in the minority.
He hasn't "split" with Democrats. Most carry the exact same views as Newsome. Transgenderism is an issue we should discuss sensitively with that community because they obviously have high rates of suicide. Athletics affects probably 0.005% of women in sports. In other words there is no reason this is a national issue at all. However when it comes down to it, it is unfair. Now Democrats totally messed up their messaging, and Trump's "they/them" commercial in the last weeks of the election likely put him over the top. Republicans are masters at making fringe issues national. Republicans are also masters about not caring for the less fortunate and treating the issue with dignity and respect, and instead just doubling down on anti transgenderism.
Trump is awful. The Sniffer in Chief that allowed the Ukrainian war to star wasn't far behind.
Then just act on it and have your candidates say they back banning trans in sports
I'll own that... we don't cut off perfectly fine body parts because little Timmy feels pretty. Adults who are pushing this are whackadoos and I will not relent.
That trans-athletes should be able to compete with girls/women. This isn't hard. Democrats have been saying this for over a year now for some reason.
I really hope the Dems don't put up a politician from California. Regardless of how good they are, it is too easy to smear them with the normal tropes making it more difficult to win swing states. Get someone from the mid-west or south and it improves chances.
Again, not to make too fine a point on it. The # of gender surgeries was:
5.3 x 100,000 adults or 0.000053 or 0.005% of adults
2.1 x 100,000 minors 15-17 or 0.000021 or 0.002% of minors age 15-17
0.1 x 100,000 minors 13-14 or 0.000001 or 0.00% statistically speaking
Again, I ask why are we acting like this is any sort of issue?
Prevalence of Gender-Affirming Surgical Procedures Among Minors and Adults in the US - PMC
This cross-sectional study uses a national dataset to examine the prevalence of gender-affirming surgical procedures among minors and adults in the US.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Not really
CNN —
Senate Democrats on Monday blocked a GOP-led bill that would ban transgender athletes from women’s and girls’ sports at federally funded schools and educational institutions.
The bill’s failure to advance highlights the limits of Republicans’ narrow margins in Congress, despite control of both chambers. The party still needs support from Democrats in the Senate for most legislation to clear a 60-vote threshold. The party line vote was 51-45.
The Senate vote comes as GOP-led states across the country continue to put forward anti-trans measures, including bills intended to keep transgender students from playing on sports teams consistent with their gender identity.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/03/politics/senate-transgender-sports-bill-vote/index.html
Why did the captain of the titanic steam full speed ahead into an iceberg despite having time and warning to change course?Again, not to make too fine a point on it. The # of gender surgeries was:
5.3 x 100,000 adults or 0.000053 or 0.005% of adults
2.1 x 100,000 minors 15-17 or 0.000021 or 0.002% of minors age 15-17
0.1 x 100,000 minors 13-14 or 0.000001 or 0.00% statistically speaking
Again, I ask why are we acting like this is any sort of issue?
Prevalence of Gender-Affirming Surgical Procedures Among Minors and Adults in the US - PMC
This cross-sectional study uses a national dataset to examine the prevalence of gender-affirming surgical procedures among minors and adults in the US.
Sometimes really smart people, highly educated people, “experts” get it wrong.
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This time they got the most obvious thing in the world wrong. And some still won’t admit it.
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
Men/boys participating in women’s/girls’ sports is a clear injustice.
All one needs to see this is functioning brain and a conscious that cannot be manipulated by dubious emotional threats.
Says the guy who thinks Project 2025 is nothing but a red herring. You're right...I'm hopeless as far as being able to accept MAGA bullshit. You got a ZERO on elaborating.
That you need me to elaborate, when it’s blatantly obvious, proves my point.
I find the mindset of; not supporting the use of the powers of federal and state law to ban access to local sports associations as an assumption of support of men competing against women, to be terribly authoritarian.
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Again, you’re proving MY point. You’re just talking out of your ass like you usually do. You’re easily the most obtuse poster on this board and that’s saying a lot. What’s the lib side on boys playing girls sports? If this is so simple…
There’s the democrat voter opinion, which pretty much aligns with normal sanity… then theres the liberal politicians opinion which is whackadoo.
Did you not just see them block the efforts on the banning transgender men law? They just showed us where their side is. Cmon dude…
Former Chicago Mayor, Lori Lightfoot, called the remarks "disgusting," saying transgender youth in California would feel hated by their governor. Washington Representative Pramila Jayapal urged Democrats not to give in to anti-transgender rhetoric, while Equality California said it was "profoundly disappointed and angered," accusing Newsom of adding to the fear and hostility transgender people already face.
When asked Thursday about Newsom's comments, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said he had not seen them but emphasized that Democrats opposed "unleashing sexual predators on girls throughout the United States of America."
Earlier this year, Democrats overwhelmingly voted against a bill that would ban transgender athletes from competing in women's or girls' sports. Party leaders criticized the legislation, calling it the "Child Predator Empowerment Act" and argued that it could result in adults inspecting children's genitals to determine their eligibility for sports.
Gavin Newsom's podcast remarks spark backlash from Democrats
California's governor was joined by conservative activist Charlie Kirk for the first episode of his new podcast.
www.newsweek.com
Senate Democrats block GOP-led bill to ban transgender athletes from women's sports
Republicans are trying to keep the national spotlight on the issue after Trump and some of the party's down-ballot candidates ran on it in the 2024 election.
I wish Biden wouldn't have opened the can of worms that is the debate over the rules of sex and gender at the federal level. It was clear that the next Repub admin was just going to attempt to undue them, and perhaps take us in an even more extreme direction where government intervention is concerned.Former Chicago Mayor, Lori Lightfoot, called the remarks "disgusting," saying transgender youth in California would feel hated by their governor. Washington Representative Pramila Jayapal urged Democrats not to give in to anti-transgender rhetoric, while Equality California said it was "profoundly disappointed and angered," accusing Newsom of adding to the fear and hostility transgender people already face.
When asked Thursday about Newsom's comments, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said he had not seen them but emphasized that Democrats opposed "unleashing sexual predators on girls throughout the United States of America."
Earlier this year, Democrats overwhelmingly voted against a bill that would ban transgender athletes from competing in women's or girls' sports. Party leaders criticized the legislation, calling it the "Child Predator Empowerment Act" and argued that it could result in adults inspecting children's genitals to determine their eligibility for sports.
Gavin Newsom's podcast remarks spark backlash from Democrats
California's governor was joined by conservative activist Charlie Kirk for the first episode of his new podcast.
Senate Democrats block GOP-led bill to ban transgender athletes from women's sports
Republicans are trying to keep the national spotlight on the issue after Trump and some of the party's down-ballot candidates ran on it in the 2024 election.www.nbcnews.com
This stuff should've been left to states/local. Would've worked itself out. (most major sporting organizations have already figured out no post puberty males in women's athletics)
Really not favoring federal solutions to most of our culture war issues.
In general... not a fan of the direction we're moving with the all powerful executive branch.
A) The power your side grabs is just going to be used against you next time around. (this will lead to ever bigger backlashes)
B) The natural solution to a lot of these problems is to let different states and locals have different rules that reflect the values of their citizens. This is a giant country with 350 million people.
C) The internet has seemingly ushered in an era where every issue is winner take all and we forget about the different layers of government. Not a good thing.
D) Failures and successes at local and state levels are useful experiments that can help elucidate proper solutions to like problems for other locals.
I addressed the bill above. Post 76. Supporting that bill is gross. I would think if you looked into that it would bother you. Where exactly did Lightfoot, who I think is a moron, say that boys should be able to play girls sports? That’s what I’m waiting for…democrats saying boys are entitled to play girls sports. Being on the dance team doesn’t count. I want to see bills written to promote it if you think you’re proving a point.Former Chicago Mayor, Lori Lightfoot, called the remarks "disgusting," saying transgender youth in California would feel hated by their governor. Washington Representative Pramila Jayapal urged Democrats not to give in to anti-transgender rhetoric, while Equality California said it was "profoundly disappointed and angered," accusing Newsom of adding to the fear and hostility transgender people already face.
When asked Thursday about Newsom's comments, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said he had not seen them but emphasized that Democrats opposed "unleashing sexual predators on girls throughout the United States of America."
Earlier this year, Democrats overwhelmingly voted against a bill that would ban transgender athletes from competing in women's or girls' sports. Party leaders criticized the legislation, calling it the "Child Predator Empowerment Act" and argued that it could result in adults inspecting children's genitals to determine their eligibility for sports.
Gavin Newsom's podcast remarks spark backlash from Democrats
California's governor was joined by conservative activist Charlie Kirk for the first episode of his new podcast.
Senate Democrats block GOP-led bill to ban transgender athletes from women's sports
Republicans are trying to keep the national spotlight on the issue after Trump and some of the party's down-ballot candidates ran on it in the 2024 election.
Again, I don’t want boys competing with born girls. I agree with it…just not the bullshit Republicans are pushing.
