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Germany Declares Elon Musk a Terrorist; Bans Tesla Sales

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Well, OK, they didn't go that far. But they are pissed about Elon's support of the neo-Nazi AfD and accuse him of meddling in German elections.

Berlin accuses Elon Musk of trying to influence German election​


The German government has accused Elon Musk of trying to meddle in the country’s election campaign with repeated endorsements of the far-right party AfD.

“It is indeed the case that Elon Musk is trying to influence the federal election,” said the government spokesperson Christiane Hoffmann after Musk’s X posts and an opinion piece published at the weekend backing the anti-Muslim, anti-migration Alternative für Deutschland.

She said at a regular media briefing that Musk had the right to free speech, adding: “After all, freedom of opinion also covers the greatest nonsense.”

Musk has often weighed in on German politics, even calling the chancellor, Olaf Scholz, a “fool” on his social media platform X last month. However, his more recent open calls for German voters to back the AfD, which federal authorities classify as a suspected extremist party, have sparked outrage and accusations of troubling interference in Europe’s top economy.

The South African-born entrepreneur, who has been named by Donald Trump to co-lead a commission aimed at reducing the size of the US federal government, wrote on X earlier this month: “Only the AfD can save Germany.”

In the post, he shared a video by a German rightwing influencer, Naomi Seibt, who criticised Friedrich Merz, the conservative frontrunner in the German election, and praised Javier Milei, Argentina’s self-styled “anarcho-capitalist” president.

He followed up at the weekend with a guest editorial in the broadsheet Welt am Sonntag arguing that Germany was teetering on the brink of economic and cultural collapse, defending the AfD against accusations of radicalism and praising the party’s approach to the economy, including regulation and tax policy.

The editor of the centre-right newspaper’s opinion section, Eva Marie Kogel, posted on X that she had submitted her resignation in protest at the decision to run the article.

Politicians from across the political spectrum criticised Musk’s attempts to put his thumb on the scales of German democracy, with the health minister, Karl Lauterbach, of Scholz’s Social Democratic party (SPD) calling his intervention “undignified and highly problematic” and Merz saying it was “intrusive and presumptuous”.

Merz told the Funke media group: “I cannot recall in the history of western democracies a comparable case of interference in the election campaign of a friendly country.”

 
Lol good to know that far leftists on the other side of the world are just as retarded as the ones over here. They also govern just as poorly. You've still not explained how they are a neo-nazi party btw. I assume it's just more leftist name calling in general because obviously the left refuses to explain their endless failures.
 
Well, OK, they didn't go that far. But they are pissed about Elon's support of the neo-Nazi AfD and accuse him of meddling in German elections.

Berlin accuses Elon Musk of trying to influence German election​


The German government has accused Elon Musk of trying to meddle in the country’s election campaign with repeated endorsements of the far-right party AfD.

“It is indeed the case that Elon Musk is trying to influence the federal election,” said the government spokesperson Christiane Hoffmann after Musk’s X posts and an opinion piece published at the weekend backing the anti-Muslim, anti-migration Alternative für Deutschland.

She said at a regular media briefing that Musk had the right to free speech, adding: “After all, freedom of opinion also covers the greatest nonsense.”

Musk has often weighed in on German politics, even calling the chancellor, Olaf Scholz, a “fool” on his social media platform X last month. However, his more recent open calls for German voters to back the AfD, which federal authorities classify as a suspected extremist party, have sparked outrage and accusations of troubling interference in Europe’s top economy.

The South African-born entrepreneur, who has been named by Donald Trump to co-lead a commission aimed at reducing the size of the US federal government, wrote on X earlier this month: “Only the AfD can save Germany.”

In the post, he shared a video by a German rightwing influencer, Naomi Seibt, who criticised Friedrich Merz, the conservative frontrunner in the German election, and praised Javier Milei, Argentina’s self-styled “anarcho-capitalist” president.

He followed up at the weekend with a guest editorial in the broadsheet Welt am Sonntag arguing that Germany was teetering on the brink of economic and cultural collapse, defending the AfD against accusations of radicalism and praising the party’s approach to the economy, including regulation and tax policy.

The editor of the centre-right newspaper’s opinion section, Eva Marie Kogel, posted on X that she had submitted her resignation in protest at the decision to run the article.

Politicians from across the political spectrum criticised Musk’s attempts to put his thumb on the scales of German democracy, with the health minister, Karl Lauterbach, of Scholz’s Social Democratic party (SPD) calling his intervention “undignified and highly problematic” and Merz saying it was “intrusive and presumptuous”.

Merz told the Funke media group: “I cannot recall in the history of western democracies a comparable case of interference in the election campaign of a friendly country.”

Good Lord, you are a ****ing idiot.
 
I used to think he was pretty cool. A goofy nerd with some nifty ideas. And to some extent I still feel that way. But, yeah, whether he was always this guy or it just went to his head, he deserves a comeuppance.
The Mars mission will be his undoing. It’s going to have to be a vanity project. No reason to do it other than it’s there.
 
Well if a random lady on Twitter says so that must be true.*


As long as we ignore the mountain of evidence that proves she is wrong.

Does the 'mountain of evidence' contain his private DMs and chat logs that she referenced, or is it his public pronouncements meant to fool you?

Nah, let's just believe this was the xmas market terrorist attack committed by a self-proclaimed ex-muslim that wasn't an attack by a muslim on non-believers like the other half dozen.

Guy is literally screaming 'Allahu akbar' at the scene of the crime, and you believe he wasn't a muslim? Honestly?

Neuralink might one day cure blindness, but nothing can cure willful blindness.
 
Does the 'mountain of evidence' contain his private DMs and chat logs that she referenced, or is it his public pronouncements meant to fool you?

Nah, let's just believe this was the xmas market terrorist attack committed by a self-proclaimed ex-muslim that wasn't an attack by a muslim on non-believers like the other half dozen.

Guy is literally screaming 'Allahu akbar' at the scene of the crime, and you believe he wasn't a muslim? Honestly?

Neuralink might one day cure blindness, but nothing can cure willful blindness.

Keep believing those alt-right conspiracies

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We can’t be certain Martians don’t have WMD, we must send inspectors.
We need to level up significantly in technology for it to make cents$$$.
Sure you can terraform it. But if we have the tech. To do that it would be more cost effective on Earth first.
Takes almost a year to get there and then what? People are living in pods and how long do those last. Guess you could create underground dwellings. Any cargo for when shit goes wrong is a year away. Honestly it would all be best handled by advanced robotics. Which we don’t have yet.
 
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We need to level up significantly in technology for it to make cents$$$.
Sure you can terraform it. But if we have the tech. To do that it would be more cost effective on Earth first.
Takes almost a year to get there and then what? People are living in pods and how long do those last. Guess you could create underground dwellings. Any cargo for when shit goes wrong is a year away. Honestly it would all be best handled by advanced robotics. Which we don’t have yet.

What I find remarkable is how he is creating multiple profitable (thus not only sustainable, but actually able to feed the effort) companies here on Earth to fund his vanity project.

You need a lot of cheap rockets to get stuff to Mars.
Check.

You need electric vehicles on Mars
Check.

You need satellite based communications network to have an internet on Mars, laying cable everywhere is much more expensive in that environment.
Check.

You need robots to augment human labor, especially that can operate in harsh environments.
Jury is out, but they're damn sure trying, and they're not alone on this one.

It'll be cheaper (and safer from meteorites) to build in old lava tubes, so you'll want boring equipment.
Putting work into this, but no clue if the Vegas loop or anything else they've done has actually been profitable.


I've mentioned before that my dad worked in USAF personnel. He was at Vandenberg when Nixon pulled the plug on the space station and moon base plans. He was pulling together the people who would staff the missions.
My dad always said it was because Nixon hated Kennedy so much.

I used to joke I wished we'd built a moon base instead of wasting over a trillion invading the Middle East. Still hoping there are some breakthroughs for fusion, and a natural demand for harvesting the solar wind off the moon's surface drives the next leap.
 
What I find remarkable is how he is creating multiple profitable (thus not only sustainable, but actually able to feed the effort) companies here on Earth to fund his vanity project.

You need a lot of cheap rockets to get stuff to Mars.
Check.

You need electric vehicles on Mars
Check.

You need satellite based communications network to have an internet on Mars, laying cable everywhere is much more expensive in that environment.
Check.

You need robots to augment human labor, especially that can operate in harsh environments.
Jury is out, but they're damn sure trying, and they're not alone on this one.

It'll be cheaper (and safer from meteorites) to build in old lava tubes, so you'll want boring equipment.
Putting work into this, but no clue if the Vegas loop or anything else they've done has actually been profitable.


I've mentioned before that my dad worked in USAF personnel. He was at Vandenberg when Nixon pulled the plug on the space station and moon base plans. He was pulling together the people who would staff the missions.
My dad always said it was because Nixon hated Kennedy so much.

I used to joke I wished we'd built a moon base instead of wasting over a trillion invading the Middle East. Still hoping there are some breakthroughs for fusion, and a natural demand for harvesting the solar wind off the moon's surface drives the next leap.
Still need the why? How does it make money? And the robotics are needed for phase one. Until the robotics are more advanced to set the stage for human environment. None of the rest matters.
 
We need to level up significantly in technology for it to make cents$$$.
Sure you can terraform it. But if we have the tech. To do that it would be more cost effective on Earth first.
Takes almost a year to get there and then what? People are living in pods and how long do those last. Guess you could create underground dwellings. Any cargo for when shit goes wrong is a year away. Honestly it would all be best handled by advanced robotics. Which we don’t have yet.
Mars has no magnetic field. If we colonize it we will be living underground for generations. Terraforming is science fiction at this point.
 
Still need the why?

His expressed why is that we know there will be more mass extinction causing meteors in Earth's future.
It's just a matter of when.
Maybe we're lucky and it's another 65 million years.
Maybe it's just 65 years.

I wonder sometimes what would have happened if the Tunguska meteor had come 50 years and a few hours later, and about 5 degrees latitude further south.
That was estimated to be <200 ft in size, and an airburst.
Probably would have heralded nuclear Armageddon bursting over Moscow in 1958.

How does it make money?

Tourism will be one way, but there will be people who want to go and stay too. Making and lifting things off Mars will be cheaper than lifting them off Earth as we explore (and harvest) the rest of the solar system.

In time we'll see a lot of the most polluting work 'off-shored' from the planet, and this place will be restored to a more pristine environment.

And the robotics are needed for phase one. Until the robotics are more advanced to set the stage for human environment. None of the rest matters.

I think of the robots as just augmentation for human labor. To move the boxes off the rocket, and off the truck. To sweep the floors, and a myriad of other necessary jobs that don't take a big brain. Instead of all human janitors, you'll have one guy controlling dozens, and a tech to fix them.
 
Mars has no magnetic field. If we colonize it we will be living underground for generations. Terraforming is science fiction at this point.
Wasn’t it Musk or some other entrepreneur that suggested to Nuke the poles. To take care of that issue.
 
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