Germany Declares Elon Musk a Terrorist; Bans Tesla Sales

[tumorboy]

His expressed why is that we know there will be more mass extinction causing meteors in Earth's future.
It's just a matter of when.
Maybe we're lucky and it's another 65 million years.
Maybe it's just 65 years.

I wonder sometimes what would have happened if the Tunguska meteor had come 50 years and a few hours later, and about 5 degrees latitude further south.
That was estimated to be <200 ft in size, and an airburst.
Probably would have heralded nuclear Armageddon bursting over Moscow in 1958.



Tourism will be one way, but there will be people who want to go and stay too. Making and lifting things off Mars will be cheaper than lifting them off Earth as we explore (and harvest) the rest of the solar system.

In time we'll see a lot of the most polluting work 'off-shored' from the planet, and this place will be restored to a more pristine environment.



I think of the robots as just augmentation for human labor. To move the boxes off the rocket, and off the truck. To sweep the floors, and a myriad of other necessary jobs that don't take a big brain. Instead of all human janitors, you'll have one guy controlling dozens, and a tech to fix them.

Tourism won’t make money. The odds are too great it’s a one way trip. Death or stuck there. Underestimating the conditions of Mars and the fragility of humans. Robotics are the key to making any colonization possible. Not unlike deep ocean drilling. Only the tasks will be more complex.

 

[seminole97]

Tourism won’t make money. The odds are too great it’s a one way trip. Death or stuck there. Underestimating the conditions of Mars and the fragility of humans. Robotics are the key to making any colonization possible. Not unlike deep ocean drilling. Only the tasks will be more complex.

I think deaths are certain, they happen now with all kinds of dangerous things we do - like drive cars.
But it's not going to be one way trips.
That's the whole point of his re-usable rocket company.

We're going to see trips made this decade, and I think the 2030s are going to see lots of trips made.
Action will render the debate about 'if' moot.

 

[tumorboy]

I think deaths are certain, they happen now with all kinds of dangerous things we do - like drive cars.
But it's not going to be one way trips.
That's the whole point of his re-usable rocket company.

We're going to see trips made this decade, and I think the 2030s are going to see lots of trips made.
Action will render the debate about 'if' moot.

The Titan made lots of trips too . Getting rockets there is the easy part though. Nothing we haven’t already done. Most of what SpaceX has done had already been accomplished by NASA. They’ve gotten the costs down. That is their breakthrough. Which is a huge step towards making it possible. Getting people in a livable condition on Mars is an even bigger step.

 

[GES4]

A naturalized citizen just like Elon.

Is Elon also a German citizen? That's the topic at hand.

 

[Rifler]

The primary value in a Mars project would be the collateral technology,.. Given that, we've got far better base projects to pursue than Mars....

 

[seminole97]

The Titan made lots of trips too . Getting rockets there is the easy part though. Nothing we haven’t already done. Most of what SpaceX has done had already been accomplished by NASA. They’ve gotten the costs down. That is their breakthrough. Which is a huge step towards making it possible. Getting people in a livable condition on Mars is the really big step.

The cost thing is a biggie though, it’s what makes it possible.

My thoughts are that the Chinese are going out there regardless, and it would be a strategic error to not be in front, if not alongside, while they do.

 

[goldmom]

Is Elon also a German citizen? That's the topic at hand.

Thanks. IIRC, I was merely responding to some about the American citizenship status Elon shared with George Soros.
But thanks!

 

[sabula]

Is this different than foreigners influencing our elections? Soros and others?

News flash for you, billionaires use their wealth to influence things.

Well this, and he is actually the ad hoc president of the United States soon. So maybe he's doing the USA a plus right?

 

[tumorboy]

The cost thing is a biggie though, it’s what makes it possible.

My thoughts are that the Chinese are going out there regardless, and it would be a strategic error to not be in front, if not alongside, while they do.

Guessing that will be the hook to get funding from the government. Hopefully by 2070 it will be livable. I don’t see the need going to the Moon was a military flex as well though.
Only takes one disaster to see politicians pull the plug. That is the other reason I think robotics is the better option. Some robots get lost on Mars from atmospheric conditions not a big deal. A group of astronauts which folks have emotional attachment to can be a program changer.

 

[seminole97]

Guessing that will be the hook to get funding from the government. Hopefully by 2070 it will be livable. I don’t see the need going to the Moon was a military flex as well though.
Only takes one disaster to see politicians pull the plug. That is the other reason I think robotics is the better option. Some robots get lost on Mars from atmospheric conditions not a big deal. A group of astronauts which folks have emotional attachment to can be a program changer.

Oregon Trail.
Not everybody is going to make it.
We know that before we even start.

We lost astronauts going to the moon. We're going to lose some going to Mars.

Some people are going to die on their way to the grocery store here on Earth too.

 

[tumorboy]

Oregon Trail.
Not everybody is going to make it.
We know that before we even start.

We lost astronauts going to the moon. We're going to lose some going to Mars.

Some people are going to die on their way to the grocery store here on Earth too.

It depends on expectations. Musk over promises. That’s ok with a new product rollout. Not so much in this sphere. Not sure if you’re old enough to have lived through the Challenger disaster. That one incident probably did more to privatize NASA than anything.

 

[seminole97]

It depends on expectations. Musk over promises. That’s ok with a new product rollout. Not so much in this sphere.

Whose expectations?

"Honestly, a bunch of people will probably die in the beginning," barefoot SpaceX founder Elon Musk told XPrize founder Peter Diamandis in a recent interview about the first crewed missions to Mars.

SpaceX has had its sights set on Mars since Musk formed the company in 2002. And for years, Musk, who became a tech billionaire before launch SpaceX's, has been very candid about the risks that come with the territory of human spaceflight to the Red Planet. In fact, in 2017, Musk said at the International Astronautical Congress that the first humans to journey to Mars should be "prepared to die."

"Going to Mars reads like that ad book for [explorer Ernest] Shackleton going to the Antarctic," Musk told Diamandis in the interview, which streamed live for over an hour and 19 minutes on YouTube on Thursday (April 22), referencing early 20th-century British Explorer Ernest Shackleton whose ad for a crew of explorers read "Men wanted for hazardous journey."

 

[GES4]

Whose expectations?

"Honestly, a bunch of people will probably die in the beginning," barefoot SpaceX founder Elon Musk told XPrize founder Peter Diamandis in a recent interview about the first crewed missions to Mars.

SpaceX has had its sights set on Mars since Musk formed the company in 2002. And for years, Musk, who became a tech billionaire before launch SpaceX's, has been very candid about the risks that come with the territory of human spaceflight to the Red Planet. In fact, in 2017, Musk said at the International Astronautical Congress that the first humans to journey to Mars should be "prepared to die."

"Going to Mars reads like that ad book for [explorer Ernest] Shackleton going to the Antarctic," Musk told Diamandis in the interview, which streamed live for over an hour and 19 minutes on YouTube on Thursday (April 22), referencing early 20th-century British Explorer Ernest Shackleton whose ad for a crew of explorers read "Men wanted for hazardous journey."

He really is a lot like Putin.

 

[goldmom]

Did I see that SpaceX launched more satellites just recently?
So many are going up that I’m getting a workout just walking down the block to see the entrails in the sky when they go up.
That used to be a YUGE thing.

 

[GES4]

Did I see that SpaceX launched more satellites just recently?
So many are going up that I’m getting a workout just walking down the block to see the entrails in the sky when they go up.
That used to be a YUGE thing.

Entrails in the sky? Like Challenger?

 

[Rifler]

Contrails...

 

[goldmom]

Entrails in the sky? Like Challenger?

If you live in FL and you see a launch go up even over 100 miles away, you see a SMOKE TRAIL from the launch.
Do you like that blurbage better? 🥴

 

[Rifler]

Honest wob...

 

[seminole97]

Did I see that SpaceX launched more satellites just recently?
So many are going up that I’m getting a workout just walking down the block to see the entrails in the sky when they go up.
That used to be a YUGE thing.

SpaceX has launched its last mission of the year.

A Falcon 9 rocket topped with 21 Starlink broadband internet satellites, including 13 with direct-to-cell capability, lifted off from Launch Complex 39A (LC-39A) at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida on Tuesday (Dec. 31). The launch occurred at 12:34 a.m. EST (0534 GMT).

The launch marked SpaceX’s 134th Falcon flight in 2024, surpassing the company’s prior year total by 38 missions. Of this year’s launches, 89 were devoted to expanding the Starlink global network.


Averaging more than 2.5 flights a week.
https://satellitemap.space/

 

[Ree4]

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

We need to level up significantly in technology for it to make cents$$$.
Sure you can terraform it. But if we have the tech. To do that it would be more cost effective on Earth first.
Takes almost a year to get there and then what? People are living in pods and how long do those last. Guess you could create underground dwellings. Any cargo for when shit goes wrong is a year away. Honestly it would all be best handled by advanced robotics. Which we don’t have yet.

While I absolutely agree that we should be pouring resources into the defense and rehab of this planet, I don't see this as an either-or proposition.

Why not both? Instead of the usual whining about how much it costs (and urging tax cuts for the rich instead), we should be asking if it's worth doing. Money isn't the problem. A lack of will is the problem.

Sure, the Space Race of the 60s may have been driven by fear, politics and the MIC, but it was still an exciting, uplifting journey. When George HW Bush decided to turn America's back on aggressive space exploration, America and the world lost something terribly important.

 

[goldmom]

Henry Ford didn’t invent the automobile either.

I love it when you post. You’re a plant, and you should get your handlers to up your game.

 

[Ree4]

Henry Ford didn’t invent the automobile either.

I love it when you post. You’re a plant, and you should get your handlers to up your game.

Eh, I wish you were just a little worthy of more of my time. Whenever somebody calls you out on your inane babble you insult and disappear. Glad you enjoy my posting, but I'm sorry that I can't return the favor. You offer nothing of substance.

 

[goldmom]

Eh, I wish you were just a little worthy of more of my time. Whenever somebody calls you out on your inane babble you insult and disappear. Glad you enjoy my posting, but I'm sorry that I can't return the favor. You offer nothing of substance.

I haven’t gone anywhere honey.
For someone who describes my posts as inane babble you certainly read them, don’t you?

 

[GES4]

I haven’t gone anywhere honey.
For someone who describes my posts as inane babble you certainly read them, don’t you?

Oh, that's going to leave some contrails.

 

[goldmom]

Oh, that's going to leave some contrails.

😂😂😂😂🚀

 

[seminole97]

Even you could found an electric car company.
The real trick, and the hard part, is making a profitable one that sells millions of units.
Not even the brain trust at Ford and GM can figure out how to do that, and they should have a head start at making cars, yet all they've done is lose billions trying to match what Elon accomplished at Tesla.

BTW, Mueller disputes your assertion:

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Elon won the election fair and square. He's now our president. And if he wants to win the German election fair and square to become their president, then more power to him.

I guess if Harris was likable and had won the election, Taylor Swift would be our president…

 

[Chishawk1425]

😂😂

Sorry but you’re a f@cking idiot

Too kind

 

[goldmom]

Too kind

If you’re saying it takes one to know one…

 

[Ree4]

I haven’t gone anywhere honey.
For someone who describes my posts as inane babble you certainly read them, don’t you?

You can't help but reply to me, even after you claim you're "not going to engage with me". You disappeared after you claimed that "Florida doesn't whitewash jackshit" when in fact when Florida's "Stop Woke Act" is the very definition.

I understand that it's tough to respond and accept responsibility when somebody completely blows up your narrative, but I really believe in you.

 

[Chishawk1425]

If you’re saying it takes one to know one…

Oh the irony

 

[Chishawk1425]

You can't help but reply to me, even after you claim you're "not going to engage with me". You disappeared after you claimed that "Florida doesn't whitewash jackshit" when in fact when Florida's "Stop Woke Act" is the very definition.

I understand that it's tough to respond and accept responsibility when somebody completely blows up your narrative, but I really believe in you.

So do I. Laughable.

 

[goldmom]

You can't help but reply to me, even after you claim you're "not going to engage with me". You disappeared after you claimed that "Florida doesn't whitewash jackshit" when in fact when Florida's "Stop Woke Act" is the very definition. Your opinion per your handler’s instructions.

I understand that it's tough to respond and accept responsibility when somebody completely blows up your narrative, but I really believe in you. 😎

You’re definitely a plant. A frickin plant. 😉

 

[seminole97]

I understand that it's tough to respond and accept responsibility when somebody completely blows up your narrative, but I really believe in you.

Like when a terrorists shouts 'Allahu akbar' at the scene of his crime and people keep trying to convince themselves he was really an atheist?

I noticed the responses stopped after I posted that video.

Guess we've moved on.

 

[GOHOX69]

I never gave this part a lot of thought, until seeing @GOHOX69 write about Pakistan.
Now I wonder if it shouldn't be two or three generations to further the assimilation.

Pakistan sucks balls as does the h1-b. Too many IT fing Indians. Send em back.

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Entrails in the sky? Like Challenger?

Too soon

 

[GOHOX69]

Pakistan sucks balls as does the h1-b. Too many IT fing Indians. Send em back.

I'm being serious.

 

[goldmom]

Pakistan sucks balls as does the h1-b. Too many IT fing Indians. Send em back.

Whoa

 

[seminole97]