LOL...you're a tool.What exactly did he violate?
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LOL...you're a tool.What exactly did he violate?
How is that any different with farm bills or teacher pay?
Tar..these guys are absophuquin’lutely amazing!LOL...you're a tool.
All outrage is selective. It conflicts with what one believes.I'm telling you that the OP is nothing more than selective outrage.
JFC people, just be consistent on this stuff.
Tar..these guys are absophuquin’lutely amazing!
How do you feel about farmers voting on water pollution bills?
Because those farmers of teachers are not PERSONALLY profiting from the passage of new legislation...for starters.
LOL...you're a tool.
We don't vote on those, dumbass. The legislature votes on them. The governor signs them. That's basic American civics so I understand why you're confused. Are you suggesting that teachers shouldn't be able to vote for representatives?You should teachers such as yourself be allowed to vote on teacher pay bills?
You really see no difference when teachers/farmers vote on legislation that generally affects/benefits them and others and when a legislator uses his position/ power to take advantage of a state tax funded program that will personally benefit him financially.:well, welcome to the Trump School of Business Ethics, Northern!Not nearly as amazing as you arguing with yourself and not realizing it.
You need to dig a little deeper Torbs. How is he personally "enriching" himself as you claim? This is a non-profit. Is he even getting a salary on the six member board? I doubt it. Here are some facts ...You missed a step: First you have to pass legislation that will allow you to enrich yourself at the expense of Iowa taxpayers.
Busting...there’s a lot of big $$$ to be had in these “non-profits”.... they need yo be carefully scrutinized, audited and regulated...too much access to “free $$$” and “free $$$” and human weakness are a dangerous combination without being overseen. The optics are bad...if nor unethical. The sad part of this voucher law is that by law, there is NO oversight included...Now, private school or not, Christian education or not....what could possibly go wrong with that?You need to dig a little deeper Torbs. How is he personally "enriching" himself as you claim? This is a non-profit. Is he even getting a salary on the six member board? I doubt it. Here are some facts ...
1) The schools is looking to start in the Fall of 2025 but still in the very early stages of organization.
2) Non-profit (and we all know schools never turn a profit)
3) Key point ... there are currently no private school options in all of Tama County! Seems like they may be filling a void.
4) The charter is for a non-denominational Christian School.
5) Three of the six board members are retired or current public school teachers
https://www.northtamatelegraph.com/...ool-aims-to-start-classes-in-tama-co-in-2025/
Dim Kim and the DeVos cartel have set themselves up well to grift the Iowa taxpayers with the voucher scam. Looks like some of our Republican legislators couldnt resist dipping their fingers into the well too.Busting...there’s a lot of big $$$ to be had in these “non-profits”.... they need yo be carefully scrutinized, audited and regulated...too much access to “free $$$” and “free $$$” and human weakness are a dangerous combination without being overseen. The optics are bad...if nor unethical. The sad part of this voucher law is that by law, there is NO oversight included...Now, private school or not, Christian education or not....what could possibly go wrong with that?
Same is true for big $$$ in any public school system … and teacher’s unions … and political donations from those teacher’s unions. I am for oversight on all … public and private so you are talking to the choir on that.Busting...there’s a lot of big $$$ to be had in these “non-profits”.... they need yo be carefully scrutinized, audited and regulated...too much access to “free $$$” and “free $$$” and human weakness are a dangerous combination without being overseen. The optics are bad...if nor unethical. The sad part of this voucher law is that by law, there is NO oversight included...Now, private school or not, Christian education or not....what could possibly go wrong with that?
I wonder if that’s all that’s getting dipped into? Lots of money at play here...and in my almost 75 years I have learned that “$$ + pussy is a common equation” where the answer results in a ethical/moral dilemma.Dim Kim and the DeVos cartel have set themselves up well to grift the Iowa taxpayers with the voucher scam. Looks like some of our Republican legislators couldnt resist dipping their fingers into the well too.
“Teacher’s Unions”? Which ones?Same is true for big $$$ in any public school system … and teacher’s unions … and political donations from those teacher’s unions. I am for oversight on all … public and private so you are talking to the choir on that.
We don't vote on those, dumbass. The legislature votes on them. The governor signs them. That's basic American civics so I understand why you're confused. Are you suggesting that teachers shouldn't be able to vote for representatives?
Not really, but I assume low intellect people, it would be.Nice deflection.
Now “The Register” is the “good guy”....Yes they do.
It saddens me that someone who claims to be a teacher can be so ignorant.
The below article from the Des Moines Register is from several years ago but it still applies today.
Lawmaking isn't their only job
His offer was appreciated in the Capitol germ factory on a cold winter day. It also neatly illustrated the dual nature of Iowa's elected representatives: They're citizen-legislators, with experiences and occupations often far afield from the lawmaking and politicking of the Statehouse.
A Des Moines Register analysis quantifies for the first time in years the specific makeup of the 100-member House and 50-member Senate, revealing the most common occupations and the challenges inherent in balancing political service with professional responsibilities. Among the findings:
One of every five legislators is a farmer or someone whose livelihood is directly tied to agribusiness. Those 30 lawmakers leave an oversized footprint at the Statehouse even in an important agricultural state such as Iowa.
...
Lawmakers often serve on legislative committees that write and review bills that directly affect their own professions. More than half of the 23 members of the House Education committee, for example, listed jobs in the education sector.
...
"We have teachers on the education committee, we've got farmers on the ag committee and we've got labor reps on the labor committee," he said. "That in and of itself isn't a conflict of interest — it's putting knowledge where it needs to be applied to the facts."
Lawmaking isn't their only job
State Rep. John Forbes stood on the floor of the Iowa House last week and delivered an important message to his colle...www.desmoinesregister.com
Tel me how many are public classroom teachers. I'll wait.Lawmakers often serve on legislative committees that write and review bills that directly affect their own professions. More than half of the 23 members of the House Education committee, for example, listed jobs in the education sector.
Define “education sector” please....teachers unions don’t include administrators or school board members, or aides.Yes they do.
It saddens me that someone who claims to be a teacher can be so ignorant.
The below article from the Des Moines Register is from several years ago but it still applies today.
Lawmaking isn't their only job
His offer was appreciated in the Capitol germ factory on a cold winter day. It also neatly illustrated the dual nature of Iowa's elected representatives: They're citizen-legislators, with experiences and occupations often far afield from the lawmaking and politicking of the Statehouse.
A Des Moines Register analysis quantifies for the first time in years the specific makeup of the 100-member House and 50-member Senate, revealing the most common occupations and the challenges inherent in balancing political service with professional responsibilities. Among the findings:
One of every five legislators is a farmer or someone whose livelihood is directly tied to agribusiness. Those 30 lawmakers leave an oversized footprint at the Statehouse even in an important agricultural state such as Iowa.
...
Lawmakers often serve on legislative committees that write and review bills that directly affect their own professions. More than half of the 23 members of the House Education committee, for example, listed jobs in the education sector.
...
"We have teachers on the education committee, we've got farmers on the ag committee and we've got labor reps on the labor committee," he said. "That in and of itself isn't a conflict of interest — it's putting knowledge where it needs to be applied to the facts."
Lawmaking isn't their only job
State Rep. John Forbes stood on the floor of the Iowa House last week and delivered an important message to his colle...www.desmoinesregister.com
Tel me how many are public classroom teachers. I'll wait.
Raise your hand if you're surprised Northern ignored this post.No teacher should be voting on their own pay package. They should abstain. No farmer should be voting on a bill that enriches themselves. No business person should be voting on a bill that advantages their specific business.
Lord almighty how is this not easy to understand. If you will directly profit from your own vote, then you are not able to make unbiased REPRESENTATIVE decision. It is an obvious conflict of interest.
It sounds like they have a legitimate complaint about this guy. If there are examples of teachers voting for their own pay then they should be brought up on the same complaint.
Yes they do.
It saddens me that someone who claims to be a teacher can be so ignorant.
The below article from the Des Moines Register is from several years ago but it still applies today.
Lawmaking isn't their only job
His offer was appreciated in the Capitol germ factory on a cold winter day. It also neatly illustrated the dual nature of Iowa's elected representatives: They're citizen-legislators, with experiences and occupations often far afield from the lawmaking and politicking of the Statehouse.
A Des Moines Register analysis quantifies for the first time in years the specific makeup of the 100-member House and 50-member Senate, revealing the most common occupations and the challenges inherent in balancing political service with professional responsibilities. Among the findings:
One of every five legislators is a farmer or someone whose livelihood is directly tied to agribusiness. Those 30 lawmakers leave an oversized footprint at the Statehouse even in an important agricultural state such as Iowa.
...
Lawmakers often serve on legislative committees that write and review bills that directly affect their own professions. More than half of the 23 members of the House Education committee, for example, listed jobs in the education sector.
...
"We have teachers on the education committee, we've got farmers on the ag committee and we've got labor reps on the labor committee," he said. "That in and of itself isn't a conflict of interest — it's putting knowledge where it needs to be applied to the facts."
Lawmaking isn't their only job
State Rep. John Forbes stood on the floor of the Iowa House last week and delivered an important message to his colle...www.desmoinesregister.com
Tel me how many are public classroom teachers. I'll wait.
That's pretty funny coming from you.I'm telling you that the OP is nothing more than selective outrage.
JFC people, just be consistent on this stuff.
How do you feel about farmers voting on water pollution bills?
Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement (Iowa CCI) filed an ethics complaint today against Representative Dean Fisher (R-District 53) with the Chief Clerk of the Iowa House. In the complaint, the group claims Rep. Fisher acted unethically with respect to House Ethics Rules by attempting to cash in on private school vouchers through his Tama Toledo Christian School, a private school he founded and now serves as Board President.
“Representative Fisher has clearly violated Iowa’s House Ethics Rules with his private school,” said Barb Kalbach, Iowa CCI Board President and Adair County family farmer. “First he campaigned on private school vouchers. Then he voted for them. And now he’s trying to cash in on them by using over $900,000 in voucher money to operate the school each year. The House Ethics Committee needs to do its job and take action against Fisher for his ethics violations.”
Iowa CCI Files Ethics Complaint Against State Representative Dean Fisher (R)
Fisher campaigned on vouchers, voted for vouchers, and allegedly seeks to profit from them--but it's much bigger than that...open.substack.com
Grassley’s received over a million in farm subsidy payments.Because those farmers of teachers are not PERSONALLY profiting from the passage of new legislation...for starters.
Not Chuck!Grassley’s received over a million in farm subsidy payments.
That’s different.Some similarities I suppose because Grassley was always pushing farm bills and as I recall he has received some big checks from the US Government in the past.
Kimmie will sit on the board of some company profiting off of the voucher program when she leaves office.Dim Kim and the DeVos cartel have set themselves up well to grift the Iowa taxpayers with the voucher scam. Looks like some of our Republican legislators couldnt resist dipping their fingers into the well too.
That won’t happen in Iowa. The auditor has been neutered. You can’t prosecute if nobody is watching where the money goes.Former Dept. of Education employees accused of criminal conspiracy involving ESA Program
Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes announced the charges during a news conference on Thursday afternoon.www.azfamily.com
We don’t need no stinkin’ (Democratic) Auditor!That won’t happen in Iowa. The auditor has been neutered. You can’t prosecute if nobody is watching where the money goes.
Did you get that info secondhand? 😂🤔😂🤔I wonder if that’s all that’s getting dipped into? Lots of money at play here...and in my almost 75 years I have learned that “$$ + pussy is a common equation” where the answer results in an ethical/moral dilemma.
Dunno….I have never been over to your house…..Did you get that info secondhand? 😂🤔😂🤔
Literally no one posting on this thread has agreed with you. Take the L ffs.Not nearly as amazing as you arguing with yourself and not realizing it.
Literally no one posting on this thread has agreed with you. Take the L ffs.