Gopher fans and media complaining about officiating
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Minnesota is definitely whining as Iowa fans would be if Iowa lost and total penalties were 12-4 in favor of Minn. I definitely could see how a hold could have been called on the Daniels run. Either way stop your whining goofers.
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LC, Iowa holds no more or less than ISU (and every other team for that matter). But if it makes you feel better thinking they have been taught some special technique that is consistently overlooked by nearly every officiating crew (and most coaches would naturally would complain up one side and down the other), then go ahead and think it. Honestly, it sounds really stupid, and wreaks of sour grapes, but so be it. Should give you guys something to think about when you are home for the holidays...again.
As bad as isu is it makes sense that clone fans can't tell the difference between holding and awesome line play.
Clone fans continue to tell the world just how little they know about the game of football.
On the last TD run by Daniels poock overran the play and LD was gone before our FB contacted the LB. THe cutback move from Daniels was special. The angle in the photo is deceptive. Probably why the refs didn't call it. Poock had no chance to make a play regardless of the hold.
That's not a hold. Just a friendly hug between two rivals. Harmless.From the gopherhole:
Btw, that was Daniel's last TD run.
Oh......wait, so......Iowa doesn't hold? Just like that, you conceded that Iowa doesn't hold?
That was easy, I guess...
Btw, maybe instead of whining about Iowa allegedly holding, you should focus your energies on a team that actually holds and gets away with it in Ohio State....and I don't even give a f*** if you have no interest in Ohio State. You like complaining, right? Complain about them. I think it was 2013, they didn't even have three holding calls on them the entire season. THAT is worth looking into. Good luck, LC.
I read your whole post. Obviously you didn't take my advice. You are embarrassing yourself. Stop it.
Linemen are allowed to hold as long as it is "within the frame". The perfect block is getting your hands up under their shoulder pads in the armpits and hold them. That is the perfect block and will never be called for holding.
Holding is called when it is "outside the frame". Grabbing the jersey on the outside of the shoulder is where holds are called, but only when egregious.
Oh......wait, so......Iowa doesn't hold? Just like that, you conceded that Iowa doesn't hold?
That was easy, I guess...
And there you have it.... LC is so accustomed to losing arguments that he is now losing them to himself!
Please give me some credit, guys. If I were going to blame the Iowa loss on the officials, I wouldn't have waited two months to say something.
This is all that needs to be said in response to the rodents. First, it wasn't a hold. 2nd, IT WOULDN'T HAVE MATTERED
Good one. But I never forget an officiating screw job.
If you aren't careful, I'll tell you what happened in the game between Blair, NE. and Missouri Valley high schools in 1961. Still haven't gotten over it.
Clone fans are so use to losing to the refs it is all they have left.
Even if someone held Poock the refs probably let it go because he is a db. I can't believe the refs didn't call unsportsmanlike conduct on him when he hit canzeri in the helmet after the whistle. It even looked like one of the refs went up and said something to him about it but no flag.
2002 was great but 1986 still takes the cake. Rob Houghtlin misses what would have been a game winning field goal. The Minnesota bench went wild and then the referee was frantically blowing his whistle to say there was a flag on the play. Yep Minnesota was so awesome that they couldn't count to 11. After the 15 yard penalty Iowa lined up to kick again and this time it is GOOD. Hawks win again.
Silly gophers.
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If the B1G ever expands again, they should seriously consider some school called The Officials. Mascot is a Zebra, which is kind of weird. I just looked it up, and they are 620-0!!!!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_State_Cyclones_football
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_State_Cyclones_football
Are you talking about the 3rd and 21 play from the Iowa 6? The play is at the 2:35 mark of this video.
Cy-Hawk Highlights
Iowa State rushes 3 (for what reason, I have no idea). The only remote hold is Myers (the LT) on Pierson. And you pretty much see that on almost any pass play. Pierson gets to Myers' outside shoulder but never clears him. Myers engages with the left arm on his chest and Beathard steps up in the pocket and fires to Vandeberg. Is that the play you are referring to? I apologize if not. But I just have rarely seen that play called holding, either on Iowa or against Iowa.
LOL. He "never clears him" because #52 has an armlock on the rusher and pulls him away from the QB. But as I said, I apparently don't know what holding is.
Not holding. Iowa's LT rides him and let's the defensive player's momentum carry him past the QB. Is it a hold? About as much as any pass block where the OL has his hands inside and the defensive player is moved away from the QB, so basically no. In my opinion, that's textbook pass blocking on an end rusher.
Not worth arguing about. No more than the guy that sits next to me making comments about our pass defense while he has no idea which scheme they're in.
Agreed. From the time Nebraska came into the conference they seem to be the one team that were mugging receivers all over the field and it wasn't getting called. Well it was frustrating not getting the calls, I did notice that other teams started getting away with a little bit more more each year.
Now its all leveled out. The bottom line is everybody does these things it's not just something Iowa is doing or getting away with
That's not a hold. This isn't FB when you played where you had to keep your hands in on your own chest and block with your elbows and forearms.
He didn't hook him. He simply kept pressure on with his left arm straight.
He didn't grab his jersey and pull him. He recovered and also had his right hand pushing on him late in the play which is further evidence that it wasn't a hold. He recovered with his feet and reingaged the right hand.
NOT A HOLD. good lord man.
Minnesota ran that end sweep about three times for big yardage and every time the tight end held King at the edge. They finally called holding the last time they ran that play. Iowa got screwed by the refs. They should have called holding every time Minnesota ran that play.
And obviously nobody taught you how to put together a coherent thought. Anybody that has read your zillion posts on the Iowa board recognizes you mo. You throw out a dumb comment then try to take it back by turning it around like you were somehow misinterpreted. You say Iowa holds every play but later imply that they have taught to do so in a way that isn't caught. So either they don't hold every play...gasp. Or like I said, as you imply, they just know how to fool everybody. Which is it? Either way, your argument is stupid.
My problem here is assuming adult-level literacy on the part of all posters, which has been proven over and over again to be a mistaken assumption.
As to the play in the Iowa-ISU game, I'll say for the third time that I apparently don't understand the rule. You guys aren't denying that the Iowa player hooked the ISU player's arm and pulled him away from the QB; you're just pointing out that such an act is legal. I didn't know that. I have learned something today.
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