More encouraged from this performance than any win this entire season.
Great Fight
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Hey, we prevented Michigan from covering
So that’s kind of like a win
So that’s kind of like a win
A decade and half into the McCaffery regime and people are hanging onto moral victories.
This is Fran's best team, bar none.
Piss in moral victories, but that is our ceiling.
12 more losses to go to finish another b-ball shitshow season!
Yes. Because Iowa has always just waltzed in to play a school like Michigan on the road
I was looking at how those great late 80s teams did on the road at Michigan. Not so good.
Imagine that! Curtis bitching and complaining. Go crawl back into your hole and stay there!
If Fran figures out who to start and how to substitute, Hawks could be competitive.
Great game. We had no right even being in that game and we fought and almost pulled it off on the road against, odds on favorite, to win the BIG. Very proud of the guys, need to make free throws and box out on rebounds, but there is time to correct problems.
Now if only Fran get get the right players on the floor, we might have something.
I'm not one for moral victories. Make your free throws Hawks! Unusually awful free throw shooting all season.
Don't count on it. Frans always going stick with his type of guys.
Mulvey played great and changed the game in the first half. So did Thelwell. They barely played the second half. And what's with Dembele? What does he do?
Attitudes like yours enable such things to persist.
Don’t get me wrong Fran playing his boys ahead of the Murray’s was awful. Like to see him go. But we are also Iowa.
While these are two totally different Michigan programs (much like different Iowa programs). The point still stands.
However, had it not been for the awful start, free throws, and bad shooting from Sandfort early, this game is different.
Ifs and buts
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Not seen one mention of the 10 to 12+ points Wolfe had on drives to the hoop later in the 2nd half.
So yeah, Iowa hurt themselves bad with horrible FT shooting but what I just mentioned hurt just as much.
So yeah, Iowa hurt themselves bad with horrible FT shooting but what I just mentioned hurt just as much.
Unlike football, we have horrible facilities, at least Carver is horrible. We haven’t made a sweet sixteen in 25 years. Fans won’t show up to games because we have the worst non-conference home schedule possible outside of the Iowa state series. Taking away Keegan Murray we don’t produce NBA talent. After decades and decades of this, we pretty much are what we are as a program.
Losing to Michigan on the road by one point when they are favored to win the Big is no shame. Better reffing and better rotations by Fran and we’d have won. I’m not complaining. This is a good team that will win a lot of games.
That's why, as long as the portal is a thing, we should be changing coached every 3-4 years until they get the right combo of coache and transfers.
Your best odds of landing good transfers is year 1. So having more year ones is a good thing.
Keeping coaches long term is the worst possible strategy and it's Iowas only strategy to date.
Go hawks...just a different perspecive.
How is Carver a dump compared to Mackey Arena? Carver is designed for fan comfort and leisure, not to maximize noise. They can close off the top of the arena to reflect back noise and they could install bleachers like the old field house. The old Field house was a Dump, yet it was much noiser/nostile. Fran is in year 15 and just now talking about moving students next to court? There is no leadership/salesmenship of the program out of Fran. He's been happy collecting his $30 million Iowa paychecks and running a family and friends program that just meets minimum expectations. When the Portal first became a thing, it was Hoiberg at ISU making moves---Fran ingored portal and this is really the 1st year he went out and got two difference makers in off season. NIL is now name of game---Iowa probably is in bottom 1/3 of B1G if I had to guess. The money Swarm has pulled in has been tiny. TJ Otzelberg success while being paid less salary than Fran shows you don't need high paid coach or 15 years of experience to turnaround a program. Fran is the poster for Old Man syndrome, my way or the highway, stuck in a rut.
I would agree the Hawks didn't fold when they could have. If not for some Payton hero ball that went unchecked by Fran and some odd playing time choices, maybe it would have been a win. It was close, just like we were very close to losing vs NW. Yes I feel, much, much better than getting run out of the building and we are right on schedule for 10-10 in conference play.
Absolutely not.
Your best chance to put together a good team is in year one with the current rules.
Look at Michigan.
That's when you have a chance to get the most transfers.
You're missing the point.
The most effective way to put together a talented team at any level is now with transfers. The best chance for most coaches in most situations to get the best transfers they can get is in year one because they have the most oportunity to sell and no baggage or commitments.
Proof of success is unimportant.
It's applicable to every program across the board regardless of what level they recruit at.
There is no more building a program as long as the transfer portal exists. The deck is reshuffled every year.
You used Michigan as your prime example, not me.
There is some truth in what you say, but every program is different, too. Until Iowa gets better NIL for basketball, hiring a new coach won’t do squat.
Your going to pony up how many times for buyouts and new coaches?
Lolol. Really? I'll take some of that action. We don't have a true 4 on this team that can play offense or defense at the B1G level. Freeman can't stay out of foul trouble, (as I predicted he was off the floor in just over TWO minutes) and we don't really have a D1 level center to play behind him. We have MAYBE 3 or 4 guys on the team who can defend against a Team with good athletes. So far this is the worst free throw shooting team that Frans put on the floor.
A, Who cares, it's peanuts in the scope of things anymore.
B, If you make good hires a lot of them will move on to better things sooner than latter because Iowa is a lesser tier job.
C. Do shorter contracts that don't have huge buyouts.
The longer it takes for Iowa to wrap their minds around the new landscape the more fan interest they will lose.
They cannot continue in the old "build a program with stability" mind set.
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