we have to get 25 points per game from Gessel & Clemmons from here on out. They just aren't giving us anything & most of their points are coming in garbage time. They have to take shots cuz teams are sagging off & daring them to shoot. If I see Clemmons make 1 more shot after the whistle, I'm going to be sick. Shoot it while the ball's in play!
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You are 100% correct. You need to have a 3 headed monster, and that 3rd head needs to be the Senior PG'S.
MG and Clemmons need to be more aggressive, not less.
What are you smoking?!? Clemmons and Gessell have only scored 25+ points combined in 3 games this season - our win against Drake, our 1st win against MSU (when Gessell scored 25 by himself) and our loss against IU.
You really want Mike shooting more jumpers from the elbow? Or wild drives? Because that's his game. Sapp shoots when he's open, which isn't all that often. Those two are creators - not finishers. I'd rather Jok shoots 20 times a game then see their usage go up. Dumb dumb comments.
You really want Mike shooting more jumpers from the elbow? Or wild drives? Because that's his game. Sapp shoots when he's open, which isn't all that often. Those two are creators - not finishers. I'd rather Jok shoots 20 times a game then see their usage go up. Dumb dumb comments.
You don't know basketball, huh? Could've just typed that.
Correct. Those 2 combined need to be our 3rd scorer, as you stated. Teams are putting all of their focus on our 2 guys & they need some help now.
Really? You're the moron who thinks that MG and AC should take 20+ shots a game.
Whoops! Another dumb post by you! Never said how many shots or how they get to 25 points.
Wouldn't be shocked to see some lineup adjustments from Fran moving forward. If Fran doesn't see it then somebody on that staff sees it. But teams aren't guarding Gessell right now. Plus there really sagging off of Clemmons. Either Gessell or Clemmons need to start knocking down outside shots or the lineup needs to change. He didn't play Ellingson tonight. Uhl was the first guy off the bench. Was that an adjustment on his part?
Considering they get 40-50 points out of Pete and Jared nightly they need to find 35+ points out of someone if they are giving up 80 points in regulation to PSU.
Big problem with this team is they are a well scouted bunch. Even the unknowns are known. Maybe not talented enough to overcome certain limitations.
Big problem with this team is they are a well scouted bunch. Even the unknowns are known. Maybe not talented enough to overcome certain limitations.
Yes you did dummy. You said they had to score 25+ points combined. Guess what - they aren't that efficient as scorers. To get to 25+ points combined, they have to shoot 20+ times a game.
Or are you just wishing and hoping they suddenly turn into Steph Curry? Bc that would be great but I'm in the real world not fantasyland.
They aren't efficient scorers. If you want 25 points a game from them, they have to shoot more. A lot more.
Or are you just wishing and hoping they suddenly turn into Steph Curry? Bc that would be great but I'm in the real world not fantasyland.
They aren't efficient scorers. If you want 25 points a game from them, they have to shoot more. A lot more.
Our problem isn't offense. We score a lot - even when we are slumping we've been held to under 70 points once in Big 10 play (twice all season). Our offensive execution could be tighter but it ain't broke.
We aren't exactly lighting the world on fire the last 2 games against teams not known for their defense. Both Minnesota and Penn State give up close to a 50% fg percentage. Iowa shot 42% against Minnesota and 41% against Penn State.
Hey idiot, there's a new thing in CBB that just go added to the game this year. It's called free throws! They aren't the most exciting thing to watch but they count as points on the scoreboard. It's pretty cool. Really pay attention in the next game, you'll see them.
Yeah, get our 67% FT shooters to the line more. Brilliant.
“If you look at the box, we’ve only got two guys in doubles,” McCaffery said. “We’ve got to get some other guys stepping up.”
I agree Fran
“We’ve got some things we really need to work on and seal up,” Iowa center Adam Woodbury said. “Offensively, we’re getting kind of stagnant and relying on those guys too much. At times we force those guys into bad shots at the end of the shot clock. We’ve got to rectify some of those problems and get better.”
I agree Woody
“I think I missed about three layups,” said guard Anthony Clemmons, who scored 12 against Minnesota and six at Penn State. “I didn’t make my free throws. It’s something I’m going to work on, and it’s not going to keep me from being in attack mode. When you put the puzzle together, you know JU and Pete’s going to get theirs by the end of the night. It’s something, myself in particular, I have to do a better job of helping them and take a lot of pressure off them.”
I agree Anthony
I agree Fran
“We’ve got some things we really need to work on and seal up,” Iowa center Adam Woodbury said. “Offensively, we’re getting kind of stagnant and relying on those guys too much. At times we force those guys into bad shots at the end of the shot clock. We’ve got to rectify some of those problems and get better.”
I agree Woody
“I think I missed about three layups,” said guard Anthony Clemmons, who scored 12 against Minnesota and six at Penn State. “I didn’t make my free throws. It’s something I’m going to work on, and it’s not going to keep me from being in attack mode. When you put the puzzle together, you know JU and Pete’s going to get theirs by the end of the night. It’s something, myself in particular, I have to do a better job of helping them and take a lot of pressure off them.”
I agree Anthony
The bolded is the real issue here, we can't/shouldn't give up 79 points to PSU. Our defensive efficiency has dropped dramatically in the last 3 games, 2 of which were against teams that certainly wouldn't be considered offensive super powers in the Big 10. Yes, we need more offensive contributions from guys not named Pete & Jarrod. I'm not probably as prescriptive around who exactly those come from, as it could be different each game based on matchups. As some of the players have hinted, they're looking to Pete & Jarrod to be "they guys" a bit too much at this point and we need to become more balanced. I'm not ready to say that translates to our PG's having to contribute 25 a night.
I really think the week off will be a big benefit for this team.
Lol, let me guess you're not a basketball player. You sure don't know much about the game anyway.
Ok Mr. "we have to get 25 points per game from Gessel & Clemmons from here on out."
We're 20-6, a top 10 team, and tied for 1st place in the B1G with 4 games remaining. AC and MG have combined for 25+ ppg exactly 3 times this year - a narrow win vs. Drake, our 1st win vs MSU and our loss vs. Indiana. There is absolutely no correlation between AC and MG scoring more and additional wins.
And yeah, I'm not a basketball player. I graduated in the 90s so my college career is done. I assume you're a current basketball player for you to make that dig? Let me guess - high school JV team?
We're 20-6, a top 10 team, and tied for 1st place in the B1G with 4 games remaining. AC and MG have combined for 25+ ppg exactly 3 times this year - a narrow win vs. Drake, our 1st win vs MSU and our loss vs. Indiana. There is absolutely no correlation between AC and MG scoring more and additional wins.
And yeah, I'm not a basketball player. I graduated in the 90s so my college career is done. I assume you're a current basketball player for you to make that dig? Let me guess - high school JV team?
Lol, at least you admitted you're not a bball player (although obvious), I'll give you credit for that.
I for one don't want mg and sapp shooting more(unless they would make em) uhl was hitting nicely earlier but not so much now. I would rather see bair take a few more shots to help take a little pressure of our 2 big guns. Like the other thread says, we could really have used Jones this year.
When teams are leaving them wide open, they need to pull the trigger. Theyre both capable
MG doesn't need to start firing away, nor God forbid try to take it to the hole more. But he does have a good short range jumper, and last night at PSU I think he passed up 4 or 5 of those kind of shots which were wide open. We do have rebounders. If Uthoff is trying to force more offense from the outside, he's also not in there to rebound. And, I think Uthoff holds on to the ball too long - shoot it or make a Quick move to the rim before the defense gets set in the paint, and which allows his defender the luxury of getting up tight.
I would agree that we need to get more from players other than Jarrod and Pete, but I don't think Mike and Sapp should be taking a lot more shots. Instead of saying let's get 25 from Mike and Sapp, a better goal would be to get at least 25-30 from Mike, Sapp and Woody, and at least 10-15 from the bench. We should not need to score more than 75-80 to win very often.
I want to see the ball moving more from side to side and more inside-out from the post. If Mike shoots, I would like it to be primarily 15-18 ft jumpers from the right of the lane off the dribble, which seems to be his best shot, with occasional open 3s. Sapp should selectively drive, mostly off the break, with occasional open 3s. We should look more for Woody on pick and rolls. He seems to be better when he gets the ball moving toward the basket versus posting up. Woody also passes well out of the post to spot up shooters.
The biggest problem over the past couple of weeks has been the bench. Uhl doesn't move well without the ball to get open jumpers and is not very good at finishing drives. Hopefully, Baer finds his jumper, which he hasn't shot with as much confidence. Wagner should be mostly there to clean up around the basket and post up if he can get a mismatch.
I would not change the starting line up, but maybe substitution patterns could be tweaked. It sounds simple, but we need more movement and guys taking and making high percentage shots.
I want to see the ball moving more from side to side and more inside-out from the post. If Mike shoots, I would like it to be primarily 15-18 ft jumpers from the right of the lane off the dribble, which seems to be his best shot, with occasional open 3s. Sapp should selectively drive, mostly off the break, with occasional open 3s. We should look more for Woody on pick and rolls. He seems to be better when he gets the ball moving toward the basket versus posting up. Woody also passes well out of the post to spot up shooters.
The biggest problem over the past couple of weeks has been the bench. Uhl doesn't move well without the ball to get open jumpers and is not very good at finishing drives. Hopefully, Baer finds his jumper, which he hasn't shot with as much confidence. Wagner should be mostly there to clean up around the basket and post up if he can get a mismatch.
I would not change the starting line up, but maybe substitution patterns could be tweaked. It sounds simple, but we need more movement and guys taking and making high percentage shots.
Agreed^^^
I'll take my chances with the Seniors. And they don't have to make them with the regularity of Jok. They need to show they will take the open looks and bury some.
I love how people on here go ballistic when MG goes 1-2 from the line. But think Uhl should shoot more. Have you had your eyes closed when Uhl shoots, it's not pretty.
Dude give it a rest. Being a bench warmer on your high school team doesn't make your dumb opinion any smarter
Let's just both agree that you can't play ball & you know little about it as well.
That's because you lack self-awareness or the ability to admit error. No big deal, politics may be in your future
Wait, don't forget you're the one that's wrong. Remember you're the one that said we don't need 25 points per game out of MG/AC. And you already admitted you don't know much about bball.
I might steal your schtick & start talking nonsense about subjects I know nothing about. Might be kind of fun!
How am I wrong? Iowa has gotten 25+ points from MG and AC exactly 3 times this season - a narrow win over Drake, a loss to Indiana and our first win vs MSU (where MG alone scored 25 - AC scored zero). Last year, MG and AC combined for 25+ points exactly once - a loss against Purdue.
Oh I'm sorry. You play basketball at the Y. Got it.
So we beat the no.1 team in the nation when that happens, got it. Remember, you suck at bball. Lol, don't ever forget that.
When teams are leaving your 2 senior guards wide open and making life difficult on Uthoff & Jok. The senior guards have to step up & take those shots as well as pick up the scoring slack. That should include more points from the ft line.
We beat MSU without Valentine, yes. We also lost to Indiana and barely beat Drake, and lost to Purdue last year. My point is: we've won a ton of games over the last two years, and we've never keyed our offense to MG and AC getting buckets at a 25+ point clip. When that has happened, we've gone 2-2.
Do we need others to pick up the scoring slack? Of course. But it's about efficiency. The problem with giving MG and AC more shots is that they aren't very efficient, even when they are open.
Your "analysis" and prescription is just trolling. You are saying Iowa can't win unless MG / AC transform into Steph Curry or Tyler Ulis. Because that can/t happen, you're just saying: Iowa can't win.
Go get bent.
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