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Gun deaths rising in Iowa as new law removes handgun permits

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IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — Gun deaths are surging in Iowa as a law is set to go into effect Thursday that will allow people to more easily buy handguns and carry them in public without training or a permit.

A record 353 people died from gunshot wounds in Iowa in 2020, including 263 suicides and 85 homicides, an Iowa Department of Public Health spokeswoman said Tuesday.

The shooting deaths represent a 20% increase from Iowa's previous high in 2019, including a 73% jump in homicides, and the most dramatic one-year hike in an upward decadeslong trend, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data. From 1999 to 2001, Iowa averaged only 194 annual gun deaths, including just 25 homicides.

Iowa is among several Republican-led states that have passed laws this year allowing for the permitless carry of guns, including one that will take effect Thursday in Tennessee and another in Texas on Sept. 1. Iowa's new law also eliminates a requirement that people pass background checks to obtain permits to purchase handguns, breaking with more than 20 other states that have similar policies.

A leading gun violence researcher said Iowa's surge in gun homicides in 2020 was part of a national increase that experts are trying to understand. Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Prevention and Policy said he expects Iowa's sweeping handgun deregulation that begins Thursday to make things worse, pointing to studies that have associated such changes elsewhere with a 25% or higher increase in homicides.

Eliminating Iowa’s permit to acquire a handgun will facilitate impulsive purchases that can be associated with suicide and homicide and remove a deterrent against illegal gun trafficking, Webster said.

The number of legally bought guns used in crimes in Missouri spiked “pretty much overnight” after the state eliminated its permit to acquire in 2007, he said. Research also indicates that allowing people to carry loaded guns in public leads to more violent crime and increases in gun thefts from vehicles, he said.

“The direction Iowa is heading here based upon our research to me is very concerning,” Webster said. “It sounds like a train wreck.”

Under the law approved by the Republican-controlled Legislature, people purchasing pistols or revolvers no longer need to obtain permits to acquire or carry handguns, a process that could take days for the background check to complete.

They must still pass an instant federal background check to buy handguns at retailers, but face no such requirement if buying through private sellers. They will not need any permit to carry guns on themselves or in their cars in most places, including the Iowa Capitol, and they no longer need to take an online training course on gun safety and self-defense.

Gov. Kim Reynolds signed the bill in April following pressure from conservative activists. She previously said the permitting system was “reasonable and responsible” and should remain.

Supporters say the Iowa law will prevent law-abiding citizens from having to apply to the government and pay a $50 carry permit fee to exercise their gun rights, while allowing them to quickly obtain handguns for self-defense.

“The relationship between your state government and the citizen is going to be flipped 180 degrees,” said state GOP Sen. Jason Schultz, who noted that the push to loosen Iowa’s firearm rules has taken decades. “You can bear that firearm without permission from the state in the form of a concealed weapon permit or in violation of any open-carry laws.”

He said this would not harm public safety, calling it a “blessing on the citizenry and a problem for criminals because there’s more good guys armed out there.” But the new law is highly unpopular: two-thirds of those surveyed this month for the Des Moines Register’s Iowa Poll said they disapprove.

Schultz spoke during a recent panel on the law sponsored by the Iowa Firearms Coalition, whose lobbyist Richard Rogers called it “the most significant single change in our state’s weapons laws in living memory." He said it was more important than the 2011 law that limited the ability of county sheriffs to reject applications and caused the number of permits issued to skyrocket.

The law will have a dramatic impact on the court system. More than 600 people per year have been convicted of carrying firearms without a permit, an aggravated misdemeanor that will be wiped off the books, according to an analysis by the Legislative Services Agency.

Gun owners are expected to collectively save hundreds of thousands of dollars in permit fees annually, although some may still obtain permits so they can travel to other states with their firearms or purchase guns without a federal check.

The group Iowa Gun Owners, which pressured Reynolds to sign the bill, called it “a monumental advancement in Second Amendment freedom for law abiding Iowans who are sick of being tracked, traced, and registered like criminals, just to carry a gun.”

 
Yes, but gun numbers have been increasing for years. Thus new permit less carry should reduce gun violence, right?
Correlation does not prove causation old chap. Violence increases with the sales of ice cream. You just tried using "increases for years" as a justification for a short term blip when any rational person can see this pandemic has had a major impact on peoples quality of life.
 




IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — Gun deaths are surging in Iowa as a law is set to go into effect Thursday that will allow people to more easily buy handguns and carry them in public without training or a permit.

A record 353 people died from gunshot wounds in Iowa in 2020, including 263 suicides and 85 homicides, an Iowa Department of Public Health spokeswoman said Tuesday.

The shooting deaths represent a 20% increase from Iowa's previous high in 2019, including a 73% jump in homicides, and the most dramatic one-year hike in an upward decadeslong trend, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data. From 1999 to 2001, Iowa averaged only 194 annual gun deaths, including just 25 homicides.

Iowa is among several Republican-led states that have passed laws this year allowing for the permitless carry of guns, including one that will take effect Thursday in Tennessee and another in Texas on Sept. 1. Iowa's new law also eliminates a requirement that people pass background checks to obtain permits to purchase handguns, breaking with more than 20 other states that have similar policies.

A leading gun violence researcher said Iowa's surge in gun homicides in 2020 was part of a national increase that experts are trying to understand. Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Prevention and Policy said he expects Iowa's sweeping handgun deregulation that begins Thursday to make things worse, pointing to studies that have associated such changes elsewhere with a 25% or higher increase in homicides.

Eliminating Iowa’s permit to acquire a handgun will facilitate impulsive purchases that can be associated with suicide and homicide and remove a deterrent against illegal gun trafficking, Webster said.

The number of legally bought guns used in crimes in Missouri spiked “pretty much overnight” after the state eliminated its permit to acquire in 2007, he said. Research also indicates that allowing people to carry loaded guns in public leads to more violent crime and increases in gun thefts from vehicles, he said.

“The direction Iowa is heading here based upon our research to me is very concerning,” Webster said. “It sounds like a train wreck.”

Under the law approved by the Republican-controlled Legislature, people purchasing pistols or revolvers no longer need to obtain permits to acquire or carry handguns, a process that could take days for the background check to complete.

They must still pass an instant federal background check to buy handguns at retailers, but face no such requirement if buying through private sellers. They will not need any permit to carry guns on themselves or in their cars in most places, including the Iowa Capitol, and they no longer need to take an online training course on gun safety and self-defense.

Gov. Kim Reynolds signed the bill in April following pressure from conservative activists. She previously said the permitting system was “reasonable and responsible” and should remain.

Supporters say the Iowa law will prevent law-abiding citizens from having to apply to the government and pay a $50 carry permit fee to exercise their gun rights, while allowing them to quickly obtain handguns for self-defense.

“The relationship between your state government and the citizen is going to be flipped 180 degrees,” said state GOP Sen. Jason Schultz, who noted that the push to loosen Iowa’s firearm rules has taken decades. “You can bear that firearm without permission from the state in the form of a concealed weapon permit or in violation of any open-carry laws.”

He said this would not harm public safety, calling it a “blessing on the citizenry and a problem for criminals because there’s more good guys armed out there.” But the new law is highly unpopular: two-thirds of those surveyed this month for the Des Moines Register’s Iowa Poll said they disapprove.

Schultz spoke during a recent panel on the law sponsored by the Iowa Firearms Coalition, whose lobbyist Richard Rogers called it “the most significant single change in our state’s weapons laws in living memory." He said it was more important than the 2011 law that limited the ability of county sheriffs to reject applications and caused the number of permits issued to skyrocket.

The law will have a dramatic impact on the court system. More than 600 people per year have been convicted of carrying firearms without a permit, an aggravated misdemeanor that will be wiped off the books, according to an analysis by the Legislative Services Agency.

Gun owners are expected to collectively save hundreds of thousands of dollars in permit fees annually, although some may still obtain permits so they can travel to other states with their firearms or purchase guns without a federal check.

The group Iowa Gun Owners, which pressured Reynolds to sign the bill, called it “a monumental advancement in Second Amendment freedom for law abiding Iowans who are sick of being tracked, traced, and registered like criminals, just to carry a gun.”


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Just to level set, these statements arent true:

"...that will allow people to more easily buy handguns"

"Iowa's new law also eliminates a requirement that people pass background checks to obtain permits to purchase handguns"


One still needs to pass a background to purchase reagrdless of your standing w/ a CC. It does remove the requirement for a permit to purchase, which has always been redundant. Furthermore, you still need a CC permit for reciprocity, which is a substantial consideration for most CC permit holders.
 
90 percent of the time I see "defund the police," it's coming from a conservative trying to splain her perception of how democrats think. This defund the police talking point is much more popular on the right than it is the left.
The squad said that police should be abolished. Minneapolis, Seattle, and Portland definitely defunded their police. I get that it’s not polling well, so, like CRT, the talking heads and politicians are trying to distance themselves from it.
 
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Should combat this by defunding the police.
Isn’t that what Rs in congress just did by voting no??? Then we have the Fox personalities calling for the defunding of the military. Or voting not to recognize the Capitol police. Interesting to see the pivot when Rs no longer feel those things don’t fit into the box they usually place them into. Again, for all on this board both Rs and Ds. These people don’t give a rip about you… they only care for themselves.
 
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Isn’t that what Rs in congress just did by voting no??? Then we have the Fox personalities calling for the defunding of the military. Or voting not to recognize the Capitol police. Interesting to see the pivot when Rs no longer feel those things don’t fit into the box they usually place them into. Again, for all on this board both Rs and add. These people don’t give a rip about you… they only care for themselves.
TBH, I don’t think any politician cares about us. The entire point is to divide us and stay in power and if they happen to pass legislation that does help us it was merely a byproduct of trying to buy votes. Take defunding the police. It will disproportionately impact poor and impoverished communities of color. Those ridden by crime. The politicians live in affluent suburbs, they won’t be affected. If they really cared they wouldn’t so something so foolish.
 
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For example the NYC Mayor front runner is a former cop running mainly on law and order. 43% of NYC said it was the main concern plaguing the city.
 
All those dead folk should have had better weaponry.

Cause, you know, cons think moar and bigger guns are the answer. Get that ammo at Bass Pro in Altoona.
 
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For example the NYC Mayor front runner is a former cop running mainly on law and order. 43% of NYC said it was the main concern plaguing the city.
Only 43 percent? Pretty sure if you checked every survey between 1800 and now, most new yorkers would agree that crime is the "main concern plaguing the city."
 
Only 43 percent? Pretty sure if you checked every survey between 1800 and now, most new yorkers would agree that crime is the "main concern plaguing the city."
When there are a dozen options that’s quite a bit. Six months ago, it was most certainly not the spike in crime. There is a reason a former cop is ahead. Democrats could campaign on defunding the police in the midterms and it will cost them the house.
 
Just to level set, these statements arent true:

"...that will allow people to more easily buy handguns"

"Iowa's new law also eliminates a requirement that people pass background checks to obtain permits to purchase handguns"


One still needs to pass a background to purchase reagrdless of your standing w/ a CC. It does remove the requirement for a permit to purchase, which has always been redundant. Furthermore, you still need a CC permit for reciprocity, which is a substantial consideration for most CC permit holders.
Always have been a firm believer Iowa CC needed to be toughened back up with the Sheriff going back to a "May Issue" instead of a "Shall Issue".

Also always believed that CC permit holders need to shoot no different than those obtaining professional permits. The purpose of that wouldn't be so much putting lead on the target as it is the opportunity for the range officer to observe safety level in the field of the person applying for the CC permit and give a thumbs down when needed...and it is too often badly needed.

Not a fan at all of the new law......completely lost control over who is carrying and what.

This summer I'll still likely renew my CC. Don't typically carry personally in other states but often have a gun along and a CC permit may grant reciprocity if the need arises to carry. Also having a CC in hand could be a good thing when common sense eventually prevails and we go back to requiring a CC permit.

I'll view my $50/5yr as supporting something I believe in.
 
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When there are a dozen options that’s quite a bit. Six months ago, it was most certainly not the spike in crime. There is a reason a former cop is ahead. Democrats could campaign on defunding the police in the midterms and it will cost them the house.
Unlikely to happen. As I said before, "defund the police" is mainly a conservative talking point.
 
Obtaining a concealed carry permit was already relatively simple, was it not? I fail to see how this law benefits anyone other than the Republican politicians who now get to pander to their base about how pro-2A, anti-government they are (as if that is even necessary in Iowa in today’s political climate).
 
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