Hamiti - Wisconsin
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Yeah. Another dominating 1 point win. And Hart didn't go for Missouri?
LOL.
Again, and you know I'm right...ISU doesn't even finish in the top half if they wrestle a B1G schedule.
I followed on CF tonite. You seldom see stall calls 15 seconds apart that sent 197 to OT.
Really wanting to see Dresser's juggernaut at Nattys.
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I wonder if the check cleared?
To me...if you've worked hard enough to have a 2 pt lead late in the 3rd period, you're entitled to slow down the action.
I saw enough of Hamiti to conclude he is pretty darn good. He could pull some upsets at Nationals or BT and it wouldn’t be a shock.
All Elam had to do was drop in on Bastida's leg and hold on for 8 seconds. Instead he just ran away from Yonger. You don't often see stall calls that close together, but you also don't often see wrestlers just run backwards from a guy without getting hit for stalling
Two calls that close together are unheard of. That was bs.
I'm assuming Big12 officials and others are still bitter regarding Missouri leaving the conference in other sports.
ISU was gifted that dual.
You know damn well if Yonger was an Iowa wrestler in the same situation in Carver, no Hawkeye fans would be disagreeing with the stall calls, and probably would've been calling for a stall out from Elam the last 30 seconds of the match
Just stop.
Stall calls 8 seconds apart is never called. OK, it was called once to gift ISU.
As I said, Elam wrestled well enough, early, and most refs would do the courtesy stall call and let it go. There seems to be a clear bias against Missouri here.
Your claim about Hawkeye fans is nothing more than another case of penis envy.
And WTF is wrong with Clone fans that wrestlers are referred to as "the Hawaiian", the "Russian", and the "Cuban"? Freaking rednecks!
It could be for stupid rednecks. Bastida doesn't seem difficult. Terukina doesn't seem too hard.
But remember... Clone fans are known as being "bandwagoners". And their attendance numbers this year aren't good either, so the newbies aren't even attending in person.
So to uneducated wrestling fans, Dresser's duals team record seems impressive until you look closer at who they've beaten and by how much they've beaten teams with a pulse. California Baptist/NW Kansas Tech/Montana State Northern?????????????????
WSR could beat those teams.
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No one was a run out of bounds so a edge stall call. The other was him running backwards to stay out of a control tie. Both were totally warranted
Not an ISU lover but Bastida is a guy people better have their radar on. He is the best in the field from neutral, good quick shots and hard to take down. His bottom game has improved enough to get by but he rarely ends up having to use it.
You are right, we would be calling for stalling. The problem is we would only get 1, not 2 that fast. It was crazy that they called 2 that fast, but they were deserved imo.
Reading a few posts on CF... even they were amazed at the quick back to back stalling calls.
Many are attributing the calls to Dresser crying earlier in the dual.
Missouri is like the "prodigal son" of the Big 12. Still hard feelings by the old guard.
Many are attributing the calls to Dresser crying earlier in the dual.
Missouri is like the "prodigal son" of the Big 12. Still hard feelings by the old guard.
Have YOU ever seen or heard of stalling calls that close?Mitch you are in rare form today buddy.
That's the crux of this discussion. Whether it was deserved or not, it never happens.
I actually watched the match. Elam got called for fleeing the mat first completely legit call.
At the restart Elam went backwards and circled around the mat with his arms straight out in front holding on to the shoulders. It was legit stalling. At least Gomez sort of engaged with Turk, Elam ran backwards at an arms length away.
Now did I think the ref had the balls to call it is another question. : )
In a meaningless dual, why make that call?
Then again, maybe that's why it was made.
We both know that call will never be made in a tourney or Nattys.
Just really odd.
Not a conspiracy theorist, but I think ISU benefitted from a vendetta against Missouri.
Just not true. I recently saw a match in which a wrestler was rightfully called for stalling, then nearly immediately called again for fleeing the mat.
Do you think that there is some grace period following a stall call in which any typical stalling action is not to be called? Like a guy who gets called for stalling on top can then just hang onto a leg for however long he wishes?
Doesn't work that way, does it?
It looks like the Big12 higher ups might have sensed it was good for the conference to have a league team finish undefeated after the debacle with Okie State.
Missouri wins that dual and ISU drops a long ways in the dual rankings.
Refs probably just making sure that happens.
Lets see if sharing a video from Google Drive works here.
If it does, this is the last 13 seconds of regulation after a restart, plus the overtime. The first stalling is at 9 seconds and is 100% justified. Rarely do you see backing out that blatant not called. The second one is more questionable since it is only 8 seconds removed and is often not called. You can see Elam is trying to circle hard, but is again backing up hard. It happens with 1 second on the clock. That said, I'm all for more liberal use of stalling so I am not going to complain at all.
What I thought. Obvious, but hardly blatant.
We've all seen worse.
LOL
Bet Elam now has some motivation in a rematch.
This is the kind of shit we'd expect from Angel.
I’d love to see your thoughts on the shitty stall call Yonger got hit with in the first. Or the third as well.
I only have it in me to post video once every 15 years and I just hit my quota.
After watching the video, I think the stalling calls were correct. But I wasn't aware of the mitchLL rule? if you worked hard enough through two periods and through most of the 3rd the ref shouldn't call stalling? I thought this was an Iowa board where you wrestle through the whistle.
The Mitch rules only apply to ISU coached by Dresser and occasionally Minnesota
I've always felt that the guy that pushed the action early has earned the chance to protect a lead late.
Even when the guy playing catch up is a Hawk.
And my beef isn't with the first stall call on Elam... it's the mere fact that the second stall was 8 seconds after the first one. And it tied the match. Earlier Dresser had given Bastida a chance to catch his breath.
I MIGHT be biased here, but I think the motivation here was to protect ISU for the credibility of the Big 12 against a program that left the conference. I'm sure there's some animosity against Missouri from conference officials.
ISU will be exposed soon enough. They got gifted here.
Occasionally Minnesota?
One other thing I've noticed about ISU and Minnesota, their fans always say after their guys lose " XXX lost, but he's the better wrestler and will win a rematch".
Clonies still saying it now after Coleman's loss vs Missouri.
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Hamiti is very good. just watched him dominate # 13 Yant at UNI. Love to see him in the portal for Iowa at 157, hell I'd take him at 165 next year.
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