Comprehensive thoughts on Iowa’s lineup and future predictions.

[Bulldogs1974]

Ok, so let's say for the sake of argument (and your silliness) that Cael and company have this big juicing program going on. Who does he decide to involve? Only the guys who remain as starters on the team? The guys who were starters before but have since moved to other programs? And what about the other wrestlers who have moved on? Do you think Cael and company had them sign non-disclosure agreements before they departed so they legally can't spill the beans about the big juicing factory? What a joke? Seriously, don't you think that one of the many wrestlers who've been recruited over and have since left PSU would have gone to the media with such scandolous knowledge? I mean, can you imagine the book deal one of these wrestlers could get if they broke that ordeal wide open? That would be huge! It would completely take down PSU wrestling and probably do some damage to college wrestling. Again, it would be huge. Yet nobody has come forward with the story...and that's perhaps because it doesn't exist. I mean do you really think that all of the recruits that have gone through PSU these past 15 years would keep all this cool juicing program a secret? In the end, I'm thinking it's the same "juicing" program that Gable had back in the day...which is no juicing. Do you really think Tom and Terry juiced their way to NCAA championships? Olympic medals? Ugh! Maybe, just maybe PSU is kicking ass our ass right now because they have better recruits, the best wrestling club (not even close) with the best world-class wrestlers in the room to work with (not even close), who can challenge and obviously improve these college kids' skills and abilities? Hmm?? I think that could be it. Juicing?? How stupid!! And by the way, every time you say some stupid shit about juicing you're basically saying that some college kid who's busting his ass to be the best he can be is doing so illegally, which not cool.

I love the Hawks, I contribute monthly to the HWC, and I will continue to support them until I die, or until my wife - no pics - spends all of my money. I want us to kick PSU's ass every match, every dual, and every tournament. And if we do I'm happy as f**k! But if we don't I'm not going to say that SVN beat Parco or Mess beat Cal and so on because of some magical juicing program. Some of you, many of whom I respect a great deal, need to understand that the PSU kids - and that's what they are, kids - are beating us for the aforementioned reasons. We need to fix our house like Gable once had it, instead of blaming PSU for our shortcomings. Our recruiting is substandard, period. If we improve that, bring better talent into our room and into our wrestling club, and get our kids across the finish line (i.e., start developing champions) we'll start being more competitive. Until then, I fear we are fu**ed. But I still love our Hawks!!!

I have no idea if they do or don’t but if you don’t think a wink and nod/look the other way attitude exists with coaches you’re crazy. This existed under coach fry here at Iowa. Why do you think ferentz got rid of those crazy unattainable strength records when he came in.

 

[A Fist Full of Hawkeyes]

Ok, so let's say for the sake of argument (and your silliness) that Cael and company have this big juicing program going on. Who does he decide to involve? Only the guys who remain as starters on the team? The guys who were starters before but have since moved to other programs? And what about the other wrestlers who have moved on? Do you think Cael and company had them sign non-disclosure agreements before they departed so they legally can't spill the beans about the big juicing factory? What a joke? Seriously, don't you think that one of the many wrestlers who've been recruited over and have since left PSU would have gone to the media with such scandolous knowledge? I mean, can you imagine the book deal one of these wrestlers could get if they broke that ordeal wide open? That would be huge! It would completely take down PSU wrestling and probably do some damage to college wrestling. Again, it would be huge. Yet nobody has come forward with the story...and that's perhaps because it doesn't exist. I mean do you really think that all of the recruits that have gone through PSU these past 15 years would keep all this cool juicing program a secret? In the end, I'm thinking it's the same "juicing" program that Gable had back in the day...which is no juicing. Do you really think Tom and Terry juiced their way to NCAA championships? Olympic medals? Ugh! Maybe, just maybe PSU is kicking ass our ass right now because they have better recruits, the best wrestling club (not even close) with the best world-class wrestlers in the room to work with (not even close), who can challenge and obviously improve these college kids' skills and abilities? Hmm?? I think that could be it. Juicing?? How stupid!! And by the way, every time you say some stupid shit about juicing you're basically saying that some college kid who's busting his ass to be the best he can be is doing so illegally, which not cool.

I love the Hawks, I contribute monthly to the HWC, and I will continue to support them until I die, or until my wife - no pics - spends all of my money. I want us to kick PSU's ass every match, every dual, and every tournament. And if we do I'm happy as f**k! But if we don't I'm not going to say that SVN beat Parco or Mess beat Cal and so on because of some magical juicing program. Some of you, many of whom I respect a great deal, need to understand that the PSU kids - and that's what they are, kids - are beating us for the aforementioned reasons. We need to fix our house like Gable once had it, instead of blaming PSU for our shortcomings. Our recruiting is substandard, period. If we improve that, bring better talent into our room and into our wrestling club, and get our kids across the finish line (i.e., start developing champions) we'll start being more competitive. Until then, I fear we are fu**ed. But I still love our Hawks!!!

This is an absolutely god awful post just because you refused to share pics of Mrs. Nashville.


In fact, I stopped reading once you said that...

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

I don’t like doing grades because that’s so subjective, but wrestling the top team in the country can give us an indication on where Iowa’s lineup stands as of right now. Suffice it to say that it’s a long way to the top if you wanna rock and roll. Iowa is battling for second, that should go without saying. Now, here are my thoughts on each individual wrestler.

125: I’ve been pleasantly surprised with Joey Cruz he’s aggressive and looks for his offense. I think he’s small for the weight but he makes up for that with decent scrambling ability. I think he qualifies but he’ll need a good draw and a few upsets to reach a r12 finish.

133: Drake has looked good this year aside from the early loss. He is who we thought he was, even up a weight. He’s a title contender. I could see him finishing anywhere from 1-4.

141: uhhh where to start. I think block is pulling to much weight and I believe watching his body language that his performances are affecting his mental game. At this point I’d be happy with him qualifying. Maybe we see him at 149 and he looks better next year. I’m trying to stay positive for you Ryder.

149: Man parco looked good for 4 mins tonight. Got caught in a bad position and he paid the price. He and Van Ness wrestled a high level high action match. Keeping that pace for 7 mins is tough, and I think he did get a little tired. I think he could win a rematch but right now I think he finishes the year in the 2-4 spots on the podium.

157: 1 wrestler looked to be in mid season form the other looked like he was just coming back from a lengthy injury. I have every confidence Jacobi can win at bigs and nationals. His ok st match might be a good indication of what we can expect. I predict a 1-3 podium finish, if I had to bet I’d pick him 1.

165: Did MM break Caliendo. I never thought I’d type that but I think he did. MM is #1 and I don’t think the rest of the field is close. Caliendo prediction 2-4.

174: what to say about PK. I love his work ethic, I love everything he says I just think he might be limited athletically. He reminds me of a max Murin. I can see him anywhere from 6-r12. I will always root for this kinda kid.

184: Gabe is the right call here though I’m not sure he’s the better wrestler at this weigh this year. I think Gabe is athletic and strong as hell. He’s incredibly tough to score on but I think his height limits his offensive ability at 184. I still think he’s an all American. I’d put him him around 5th right now. His match against ok st might give us a good indication on where he finishes.

197: Buch looks like an NCAA champion. He’s in control at all times and can be explosive in his offense. I think he wins it all this year.

285: or should I say 235.5. I like BK and I think he competes for a title at some point, maybe next year. He’s not on the same level right now as the top three. He’s a clear tier below currently. I do think he’s an all American. I’ll predict 6th.

Humbling loss tonight against Penn St. I think we knew it was coming but it’s tough to take a 30-8 smack down on the chin. With that said I’m gonna shut up and go to bed. Peace out Hawk Fans.

Well tell the rest of college wrestling to stop f***ing worshipping at Penn State's feet and start helping Iowa defeat them at nationals, the bunch of lazy f***ers........

 

[js8793]

explain what you mean by dead even out of HS. Kasak was ranked #10 in class of 2023 by Flo. Ryder block was, what? Top 50 at best?

Someone correct me if my memory is wrong.

Block was 22. The gap between them is now far, far larger than 12 spots. And yes, I was referring to their match linked above. Based on skill (meaning if they were still the same size), I think Kasak bonuses Block without much issue now.

 

[Hammerhead02]

I have no idea if they do or don’t but if you don’t think a wink and nod/look the other way attitude exists with coaches you’re crazy. This existed under coach fry here at Iowa. Why do you think ferentz got rid of those crazy unattainable strength records when he came in.

Wuuuuttt?

 

[HawkCharlotte]

I don’t like doing grades because that’s so subjective, but wrestling the top team in the country can give us an indication on where Iowa’s lineup stands as of right now. Suffice it to say that it’s a long way to the top if you wanna rock and roll. Iowa is battling for second, that should go without saying. Now, here are my thoughts on each individual wrestler.

125: I’ve been pleasantly surprised with Joey Cruz he’s aggressive and looks for his offense. I think he’s small for the weight but he makes up for that with decent scrambling ability. I think he qualifies but he’ll need a good draw and a few upsets to reach a r12 finish.

133: Drake has looked good this year aside from the early loss. He is who we thought he was, even up a weight. He’s a title contender. I could see him finishing anywhere from 1-4.

141: uhhh where to start. I think block is pulling to much weight and I believe watching his body language that his performances are affecting his mental game. At this point I’d be happy with him qualifying. Maybe we see him at 149 and he looks better next year. I’m trying to stay positive for you Ryder.

149: Man parco looked good for 4 mins tonight. Got caught in a bad position and he paid the price. He and Van Ness wrestled a high level high action match. Keeping that pace for 7 mins is tough, and I think he did get a little tired. I think he could win a rematch but right now I think he finishes the year in the 2-4 spots on the podium.

157: 1 wrestler looked to be in mid season form the other looked like he was just coming back from a lengthy injury. I have every confidence Jacobi can win at bigs and nationals. His ok st match might be a good indication of what we can expect. I predict a 1-3 podium finish, if I had to bet I’d pick him 1.

165: Did MM break Caliendo. I never thought I’d type that but I think he did. MM is #1 and I don’t think the rest of the field is close. Caliendo prediction 2-4.

174: what to say about PK. I love his work ethic, I love everything he says I just think he might be limited athletically. He reminds me of a max Murin. I can see him anywhere from 6-r12. I will always root for this kinda kid.

184: Gabe is the right call here though I’m not sure he’s the better wrestler at this weigh this year. I think Gabe is athletic and strong as hell. He’s incredibly tough to score on but I think his height limits his offensive ability at 184. I still think he’s an all American. I’d put him him around 5th right now. His match against ok st might give us a good indication on where he finishes.

197: Buch looks like an NCAA champion. He’s in control at all times and can be explosive in his offense. I think he wins it all this year.

285: or should I say 235.5. I like BK and I think he competes for a title at some point, maybe next year. He’s not on the same level right now as the top three. He’s a clear tier below currently. I do think he’s an all American. I’ll predict 6th.

Humbling loss tonight against Penn St. I think we knew it was coming but it’s tough to take a 30-8 smack down on the chin. With that said I’m gonna shut up and go to bed. Peace out Hawk Fans.

Who gives a shit? Iowa can't beat Penn St nor come close ... even when Iowa tries to bring in blue bloods.


The sport is getting boring. Watching Penn St. wrestle Iowa is as fun as watching a College team play a Junior high team in football. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Nashville_Hawkeye]

R U SERIOUS!?!?!? "a book deal" ????? OK, lets look at it YOUR way!!! AND I will 100% prove BEYOND a reasonable doubt that I am correct!!!! Wanna bet on it??????

Sooooo according to YOU, NO one is juicing right!?!??! I mean Minny got caught and all but.......????? what you say?????

Now you are going to sit here and tell us ALL----- That NO athletes in college are using PEDs?!?!?! Football programs MAYBE!?!?!? Have you heard of ANY kid coming out and saying anything about it!??!?! HMMMMMMMMM

What about PRO sports????? Again according to YOUR argument!!!!! NO ONE is using PEDs BECAUSE someone would get a BOOK DEAL!?!?!?!?? WOW!!!!!!!

EVER heard of RUSSIAN wrestling team?????? Geee, I wonder what happened to them??????? How about the Chinese weight lifters????

I went to a D2 school and the roids at the time being used by our Football team and others was UNREAL!!! TWOOOOO HS teams in my immediate area had both Football AND wrestling programs investigated!!!!!

Do you think I am saying that the great Krailure is standing at the door with a needle you NitWit!!!!! As I said, BROOKS was using, and they caught him!!!! They ONLY caught 1 PED apparently and it was sqwashed by a "doctor"!!!!

My guess once again, IF you could get medical records, I would bet THE FARM!!! MANY on that team have a doctors note for a PED!

Ever see a kid on Doctor prescribed HGH!?!??!?! Wanna talk about REMARKABLE!!!!

STOP with KemDawg!!!!! Was making a HUGE cut, was OLDER and it was years NOT months as KoJack has done!!!! Please see, Brown, KerKin, CassarSalad kid, and several others!!!!!

SO in conclusion, you can either head to Nashville(heard it is very nice) and believe that there is no, I repeat NO drug problem in sports???

OR you can come ride in REALITY with SIR IRON!!!!!

NOTE : I am NOT saying that this is the ONLY reason they win!!!! BUT, you give TOP level athletes PEDs, that is when you get NEXT level athletes!

P.s. I wonder if that BONDS guy hitting 73 HRs ever took anything???? I mean I was ALMOST certain till this post above, but now LMAO!!!

My friend, arguing with you isn't even fun because some of the stuff you say is just out there. And by the way I didn't say there were no drug problems in sports. But I will continue to say until I'm Penn State blue in the face that the reason we've been getting our asses kicked more times than not over the last 15 years has nothing to do with this magical juicing deal going on with Cael and company. Like Chief alluded to, please either bring forth evidence or let it rest. If you're older than 18 you know for a fact that a group much larger than one can't keep a really good secret to save their lives. Yet you want me to believe that every wrestling recruit that has come and gone through PSU is keeping this huge juicing deal a secret? Ya killin me Smalls!

Also, if it's that fricking easy to get doctor's notes for PEDs that are fine and dandy with the NCAA, then I think we need to look at hiring a couple of those doctors on our staff. Just kidding of course...I think. LOL!

Seriously IRONBIRD, the solution has nothing to do with PEDs or any other craziness like that. I'm thinking recruiting and talent in the room are two areas where we are lightyears behind. Seriously, how many NCAA champs or Olympic medalists do we have in our room to help develop our kids? Tom, Terry, Spencer and...??? We need to focus on improvements, not on excuses.

 

[el dub]

My friend, arguing with you isn't even fun because some of the stuff you say is just out there. And by the way I didn't say there were no drug problems in sports. But I will continue to say until I'm Penn State blue in the face that the reason we've been getting our asses kicked more times than not over the last 15 years has nothing to do with this magical juicing deal going on with Cael and company. Like Chief alluded to, please either bring forth evidence or let it rest. If you're older than 18 you know for a fact that a group much larger than one can't keep a really good secret to save their lives. Yet you want me to believe that every wrestling recruit that has come and gone through PSU is keeping this huge juicing deal a secret? Ya killin me Smalls!

Also, if it's that fricking easy to get doctor's notes for PEDs that are fine and dandy with the NCAA, then I think we need to look at hiring a couple of those doctors on our staff. Just kidding of course...I think. LOL!

Seriously IRONBIRD, the solution has nothing to do with PEDs or any other craziness like that. I'm thinking recruiting and talent in the room are two areas where we are lightyears behind. Seriously, how many NCAA champs or Olympic medalists do we have in our room to help develop our kids? Tom, Terry, Spencer and...??? We need to focus on improvements, not on excuses.

Right on. That should be common sense, but…