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Have you moved money into safer havens / cash positions?

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With the predicted now over 5% retraction in the GDP from previous estimates for 1st Quarter, what, if anything, are you doing to protect your money? We will be fully retired in less than 2 years. I've never moved money and rode the market like the "experts" tell you to do but I'm a little nervous this time.
 
With the predicted now over 5% retraction in the GDP from previous estimates for 1st Quarter, what, if anything, are you doing to protect your money? We will be fully retired in less than 2 years. I've never moved money and rode the market like the "experts" tell you to do but I'm a little nervous this time.
For my safe account with close to $1M, I've moved money into higher dividend paying stocks. UPS 5.51%, Ford 6.82%, SFL 11.96%, WU 8.68%, DOW 7.35%, MO 7.31%, WHR 6.88%, and several others paying above 5%. This account is one where I take about 70% of the dividend income out as spending money/pay taxes on dividends. I reinvest the other 30% back into more dividend paying stocks.

I'm still letting my ROTH IRA and other accounts ride in the market with lots of tech stocks.
 
With the predicted now over 5% retraction in the GDP from previous estimates for 1st Quarter, what, if anything, are you doing to protect your money? We will be fully retired in less than 2 years. I've never moved money and rode the market like the "experts" tell you to do but I'm a little nervous this time.
I reallocated everything in my 401k to a money market about a month ago. It’s hard to balance FOMO and FAFO.
 
question for talented stock market snipers who have exited into cash: when do you intend getting back into the market with the objective of subsequently holding for a few years?

your answer can be in expressed in units of time (weeks/months/years) or index values (djia, nasdaq) or individual big cap stock values or global indicators. basically share what you are waiting for to enter big into the market.
 
question for talented stock market snipers who have exited into cash: when do you intend getting back into the market with the objective of subsequently holding for a few years?

your answer can be in expressed in units of time (weeks/months/years) or index values (djia, nasdaq) or individual big cap stock values or global indicators. basically share what you are waiting for to enter big into the market.
Monitoring responses, as I don’t have a plan. I’m not trying to catch a knife as close to the ground as I can, so if things start creeping back up after what I think will be a hard fall, that’s when I get back in and just wait for the market to climb again.
 
Monitoring responses, as I don’t have a plan. I’m not trying to catch a knife as close to the ground as I can, so if things start creeping back up after what I think will be a hard fall, that’s when I get back in and just wait for the market to climb again.
i've done that a few times and the market has always ascended to new heights instead :) i'm now very self aware of having zero stock market game :)
 
I took my profits, holding out in money markets right now getting nearly 5%. Sort of have a game plan on when I am re-entering the market. I can tell you what, if it gets to the point I think it will….I will be shoving it all back into index funds at once. If I prove to be totally wrong I will just DCA it all back into index funds over time anyways.

Crashes are infrequent events to generate wealth.
 
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I took my profits, holding out in money markets right now getting nearly 5%. Sort of have a game plan on when I am re-entering the market. I can tell you what, if it gets to the point I think it will….I will be shoving it all back into index funds at once. If I prove to be totally wrong I will just DCA it all back into index funds over time anyways.

Crashes are infrequent events to generate wealth.
what is that point in your thinking ?
 
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Only have NKE as i have had it since 1988, .49 a share, completely out and have 5 CDs NOW. NWH do i trust the "CORRUPT" CRAZY PRICK running the economy.
 
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question for talented stock market snipers who have exited into cash: when do you intend getting back into the market with the objective of subsequently holding for a few years?

your answer can be in expressed in units of time (weeks/months/years) or index values (djia, nasdaq) or individual big cap stock values or global indicators. basically share what you are waiting for to enter big into the market.
Jump back in when the craziness ends, so about 4 years.
 
With the predicted now over 5% retraction in the GDP from previous estimates for 1st Quarter, what, if anything, are you doing to protect your money? We will be fully retired in less than 2 years. I've never moved money and rode the market like the "experts" tell you to do but I'm a little nervous this time.
I retired in 2019 and more or less moved all my assets to CDs. Prior to retirement I usually had about 2/3s of my funds in above avg risk equity mutual funds and then those more conservative funds based on years to retirement.

I buy brokeraged CDs and they are FDIC protected (and if that goes kaput we are all sort of kaput) and I get them in a lot of different banks.

The last couple of years the the CDs have been earning a decent 5-6% and now at about 4-4.5%.

As you said, when retired you cant earn back those losses so I will take a nice gain and not worry.
 
Jump back in when the craziness ends, so about 4 years.
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question for talented stock market snipers who have exited into cash: when do you intend getting back into the market with the objective of subsequently holding for a few years?

your answer can be in expressed in units of time (weeks/months/years) or index values (djia, nasdaq) or individual big cap stock values or global indicators. basically share what you are waiting for to enter big into the market.
Well Warren Buffett has been selling off to go into cash or safer items. Didnt he sell all his Apple in the last year?

He has been very right most of the time
 
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Well Warren Buffett has been selling off to go into cash or safer items. Didnt he sell all his Apple in the last year?

He has been very right most of the time
he’s sitting on a ton of cash but he’s also in the market. I think I read he’s still over 60 percent in the market.
 
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Well Warren Buffett has been selling off to go into cash or safer items. Didnt he sell all his Apple in the last year?

He has been very right most of the time
buffet is a crafty coot. he doesn’t telegraph any good moves in advance. when he leaks news about having big positions that’s usually when retail investors should sell and vice versa as well :)
 
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Thanks for the reply... talking to our financial person tomorrow but they seem to always miss big downward events for their clients lol
Because they don'y want you moving money around or removing it from accounts. They lose more that way.
Always thinking long term when us older investors are more short term in reality.
 
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With the predicted now over 5% retraction in the GDP from previous estimates for 1st Quarter, what, if anything, are you doing to protect your money? We will be fully retired in less than 2 years. I've never moved money and rode the market like the "experts" tell you to do but I'm a little nervous this time.
Buy quality investments. If you are going to need that money in 2 years you should already be in cash/CD's. If you are at the age that you still want growth and you don't need the money I would stay in. My rule of thumb is to never get into a position that I HAVE to sell an investment at a certain time.
 
With the predicted now over 5% retraction in the GDP from previous estimates for 1st Quarter, what, if anything, are you doing to protect your money? We will be fully retired in less than 2 years. I've never moved money and rode the market like the "experts" tell you to do but I'm a little nervous this time.
I'm still 10 years away so I can still ride this cycle out, assuming we get a recovery.
 
Well Warren Buffett has been selling off to go into cash or safer items. Didnt he sell all his Apple in the last year?

He has been very right most of the time
Buffet still has $75 billion in Apple, so no he didn't sell off all his Apple. He's waiting to land one more really big fish or to get excellent returns as the market crashes. Berkshire throws off so much cash it is crazy.
 
Pretty much what it says. They’re purchased through a brokerage rather than a bank. If there are other differences, someone else would have to chime in.
Since they are in a Brokerage account do they incur brokerage adviser fees? That was what I was wondering,
 
Also known as The Trump Dump.
Maybe they recognized that the economy would take a giant shit right before an election every time Republicans lose (because of their crappy policies, but they never admit that). So maybe they think if they make the economy crash in the first half of their term they can have it recovering in time for the next election in 4 years. That or he's just getting paid by Russia to do everything he can to destabilize and end the United States as any opposing force to Russian aggression. As ridiculous as that sounds I'm not sure which option I would put money on if I had to bet.
 
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You should always align your investments to your risk tolerance and financial plan (with a good advisor). If you’ve done that then you are where you need to be. Stock Market volatility is to be expected.
 
Since they are in a Brokerage account do they incur brokerage adviser fees? That was what I was wondering,

No. Well, at least they shouldn't be. Also, brokered cd's can be sold on the secondary market. Because of this, hey don't have penalties and their price does fluctuate like a bond.
 
Well Warren Buffett has been selling off to go into cash or safer items. Didnt he sell all his Apple in the last year?

He has been very right most of the time

Buffet is always selling stock.
buffet is a crafty coot. he doesn’t telegraph any good moves in advance. when he leaks news about having big positions that’s usually when retail investors should sell and vice versa as well :)

Rarely is Buffett leaking anything. He has disclosures he has to fill out when placing trades. Form 13F.
 
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