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Have you moved money into safer havens / cash positions?

Not yet. Current plan doesn't have an advisor attached to it. But I am looking into what my options are but I am still long haul before old enough.
 
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I’m barely touching any investments. I’m still probably 20 years from retirement.

I have put some stuff on hold. Canceled some vacation plans, I’m probably not going to pursue a new job which I was thinking about this year, I’m not doing some home improvements, and I was going to buy a new car this year but I’ll keep rolling with what I have.
 
With the predicted now over 5% retraction in the GDP from previous estimates for 1st Quarter, what, if anything, are you doing to protect your money? We will be fully retired in less than 2 years. I've never moved money and rode the market like the "experts" tell you to do but I'm a little nervous this time.
I am moving everything to a more conservative and less volatile market. I am not talking about a few bucks either.
 
My wife was adamant about dumping Tesla in Jan but otherwise haven’t touched anything. Let it ride.

I think you can get lucky but pretty sure the stats show most miss the turnaround (or worse).
 
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he’s sitting on a ton of cash but he’s also in the market. I think I read he’s still over 60 percent in the market.
I’m trying to move closer to that. Probably will by Wednesday. Never get in a big rush with these things.
 
Well Warren Buffett has been selling off to go into cash or safer items. Didnt he sell all his Apple in the last year?

He has been very right most of

Well Warren Buffett has been selling off to go into cash or safer items. Didnt he sell all his Apple in the last year?

He has been very right most of the time
A tiny piece of Bershire's investments are in cash. I think you're referring just to marketable equities.
 
I’m barely touching any investments. I’m still probably 20 years from retirement.

I have put some stuff on hold. Canceled some vacation plans, I’m probably not going to pursue a new job which I was thinking about this year, I’m not doing some home improvements, and I was going to buy a new car this year but I’ll keep rolling with what I have.
Jesus, I don’t think it’s THAT bleak. You only have one life to live…
 
I keep the same asset allocation all the time. There are always reasons to think the market could collapse.

If the stock market does tank, noncorrelated assets should be fine. You then take money from that bucket and buy equities on sale.
 
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I just finished a trade show at Javitts. There’s a lot of worry right now with the tariffs being implemented tomorrow.

Trump is a ****wad for ****ing with our money.
 
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Jesus, I don’t think it’s THAT bleak. You only have one life to live…

My family is getting close enough to retirement I don’t want to risk an interruption to my income. If I work until 62 my wife can probably retire at 54 or 55 and I want to give that to her.

I also am strategically saving some money because if there is an interruption in something like SS I want to be able to give through my church to meet needs.
 
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LoL. Love reading what the geniuses of HBOT are doing with their finances. Speak to your financial advisor(s) before doing anything with your money. I just spoke to mine and feel better where things are headed with his insight. Talk to your’s.
 
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Thanks for the reply... talking to our financial person tomorrow but they seem to always miss big downward events for their clients lol
There are certain sectors that should be okay. Financial-related stocks/mutual funds, stocks/mutual funds that produce dividends, and with the tariffs, I think international stocks/mutual funds will provide decent returns too. Otherwise, keep a decent portion of your retirement accounts in bonds and cash-related money market type funds.
 
I just finished a trade show at Javitts. There’s a lot of worry right now with the tariffs being implemented tomorrow.

Trump is a ****wad for ****ing with our money.
blame Trump for everything...and at the same time hate on Elon and DOGE for working on more transparency and ensuring our taxes aren't being corruptly spent and redistributed to the powerful people....which is it, do you care more about politics or your money?
 
LoL. Love reading what the geniuses of HBOT are doing with their finances. Speak to your financial advisor(s) before doing anything with your money. I just spoke to mine and feel better where things are headed with his insight. Talk to your’s.
Well then, share your genius financial advisor’s prognostications.
 
Absolutely...gonna be a likely a rough four years.

Trump was correct on his prediction of people's 401k collapsing.
Just missed it by 4 years.
I think the market, regardless of who won the recent presidential race was over-valued and ready for a 10% to 15% reset. However, I think the down tick will be more of a 1 to 2 year downturn.
 
I think the market, regardless of who won the recent presidential race was over-valued and ready for a 10% to 15% reset. However, I think the down tick will be more of a 1 to 2 year downturn.
So, you're saying tariff talk is not a factor????

JFC

You're a lost cause.
 
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blame Trump for everything...and at the same time hate on Elon and DOGE for working on more transparency and ensuring our taxes aren't being corruptly spent and redistributed to the powerful people....which is it, do you care more about politics or your money?

If they cared about transparency they would not have fired a bunch of inspectors general. Don’t kid yourself.
 
Nothing emotional about the indicators. All point to mske decisions now or lose big in a few months.
there are always indicators that are on both sides of the markets...what is emotional is you worried about a material market downturn. you have to get it right twice to win here...you moved to cash now....when do you plan on getting back in?
 
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there are always indicators that are on both sides of the markets...what is emotional is you worried about a material market downturn. you have to get it right twice to win here...you moved to cash now....when do you plan on getting back in?
Did you feel the same in March of 2020?
 
I retired in 2019 and more or less moved all my assets to CDs. Prior to retirement I usually had about 2/3s of my funds in above avg risk equity mutual funds and then those more conservative funds based on years to retirement.

I buy brokeraged CDs and they are FDIC protected (and if that goes kaput we are all sort of kaput) and I get them in a lot of different banks.

The last couple of years the the CDs have been earning a decent 5-6% and now at about 4-4.5%.

As you said, when retired you cant earn back those losses so I will take a nice gain and not worry.
You have to be comfortable with your investment mix/risk tolerance, but you lost out on some decent stock market gains in 2021/23.
 
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there are always indicators that are on both sides of the markets...what is emotional is you worried about a material market downturn. you have to get it right twice to win here...you moved to cash now....when do you plan on getting back in?
“Cash” as in a money market account. It’s not like anyone here is shoving cash into mattresses. So 4% or whatever until time to reallocate. The latest I will get back in is if we rally back to when I sold. At that point, I will have some comfort that the storm has been weathered. If the market keeps falling I said I would probably buy at 5000. Of course if we blow past 5k I will probably wait a little.
 
what is that point in your thinking ?
I am planning to slowly start averaging back in if it gets to 10% down….and then accelerate if it continues down to 20-30% off its high.

Not fool proof, but hopefully it will work for me.

If it has a COVID like drop I would go back in immediately.
 
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My retirement is in 100% equities. I'm probably about 18 to 20 years away from retirement. I won't move anything around. I'll just take advantage of cheap shares if the market goes down. Usually I have about 30% of my salary in high yield savings. If the market drops considerably then I'll just max out my Roth on the drop. Usually I max out my Roth with my year end bonus. I'll keep maxing out my 401k throughout the year as always.
 
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I went from 85 percent tech and the rest mutual funds to 5 percent financials, 10 percent mutual funds of various types and the rest cash. Selling several times per week..

This was going to happen regardless of who won the election. Getting sped up.
 
You have to be comfortable with your investment mix/risk tolerance, but you lost out on some decent stock market gains in 2021/23.
Yep, but the stock market is really manipulated by the big money people, they can start a sell off, sale high, watch the price go down, buy low, over and over and over.

You never know what is going to happen so as I said we are very comfortable and making money on fixed CDs
 
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