Hawkeyes add Middle Tennessee State to 2019 schedule
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Exactly this is a concept many Iowa fans can't grasp the issue with ISU and now with 9 conference games plus doesn't help our rival is one of worst power 5 teams out there. For anyone complaining about the quality of MTSU if you look at every teams schedule you'll find least one more likely 2 opponents who are worse than them on future schedules so not like just Iowa having someone with that quality.
Not upset, but it just confirms my reasoning to drop season tickets. That is a pure garbage Sept schedule. I can still go to the games and pay half the cost.
It really doesn't matter when you can't beat the cupcakes.
"Myth, SEC teams lose quite often to FCS schools. ESPN just covers it up."
LOL
I still can't believe how many of our fans are TOO DUMB to get it. With Iowa State on the schedule and 9 conference games per year, you have to pick:
1) Give up a home game to play somebody respectable in the P5
2) Convince a lesser opponent to only come to Kinnick
or my longer-shot personal preference:
3) Move ISU to a 2 on, 2 off schedule and then do home and home with a respectable P5
I hate to sound cmhawk99, but seriously many people just do not get it.
1) Give up a home game to play somebody respectable in the P5
2) Convince a lesser opponent to only come to Kinnick
or my longer-shot personal preference:
3) Move ISU to a 2 on, 2 off schedule and then do home and home with a respectable P5
I hate to sound cmhawk99, but seriously many people just do not get it.
In 2019
3 non-conf games (middle tn state, Iowa State, Miami of OHIO)
all the rest were conference games
In 1990
3 non-conf games (Cincinnati, Iowa State, Miami of FLORIDA)
all the rest were conference games
Ok, so then tell me how you are going to do this with 7 home games, or is your choice to drop a home game and play one of these better teams at a neutral site or at their place?
You don't even know what your talking about now. You said that SEC conference schedules are much tougher, that's not true. Non-conference slate is irrelevant in that conversation.
Confirmation bias. If ESPN and the preseason polls put a bunch of SEC teams in the Top 25, then they all look good when they play each other.
I have absolutely no problem with this (as a home and home, of course). Unfortunately, Barta does.
My bad.
After adding powerhouses Rutgers and Maryland the B1G became the best football conference in the land.
After adding powerhouses Rutgers and Maryland the B1G became the best football conference in the land.
Man that's tough. Would hate to have to play ISU every year if it meant not playing a marquee opponent. Playing 1 marquee nonconference game is one of the best parts of the season IMO.
Nebraska has played Oregon, Miami, UCLA, Washington, Vtech, USC the past 10 years and has CU (4games), OU (4games), Cinncy, Tennessee, & Arizona in the next 10-15 years. Would think Iowa could at least get a neutral site game.
Nebraska has played Oregon, Miami, UCLA, Washington, Vtech, USC the past 10 years and has CU (4games), OU (4games), Cinncy, Tennessee, & Arizona in the next 10-15 years. Would think Iowa could at least get a neutral site game.
In 1990 only 11 games played and teams then goal was to get 6 home games. Once college football went to 12 games and some conference added 9 conference games changed things up drastically.
As for the mighty SEC they only play 8 conference games (with them voting against against going to 9 games) and only 1 team last year played 2 power 5 teams out of 14. So 13 of 14 SEC teams played 3 games total against smaller conferences schools.
I don't understand how you're making this work. You say you have no problem giving up the home game, but then say it has to be a home and home? Maybe it is possible but the times in the past when I've actually looked at the schedule to figure it out, I can't get it to work.
I think it's reasonable to play 6 home games in certain years. Many programs are able to deal with this and get a quality non conference opponent. People are willing to forgive losses if they are to top quality teams. Iowa could easily get a home and home if they tried IMO.
2017 home games: Wyoming, North Texas, PSU, Illinois, Minnesota, Ohio State, Purdue
2017 road games: Iowa State, Michigan State, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Nebraska
2018 home games: Northern Illinois, Iowa State, Northern Iowa, Wisconsin, Maryland, Northwestern, Nebraska
2018 road games: Minnesota, Indiana, Penn State, Purdue, Illinois
The only way to get a better P5 opponent is to either ditch ISU or lose the 7th home game every other year... there is no other way.
2017 road games: Iowa State, Michigan State, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Nebraska
2018 home games: Northern Illinois, Iowa State, Northern Iowa, Wisconsin, Maryland, Northwestern, Nebraska
2018 road games: Minnesota, Indiana, Penn State, Purdue, Illinois
The only way to get a better P5 opponent is to either ditch ISU or lose the 7th home game every other year... there is no other way.
Right now Iowa and ISU have a contract through 2023 to play on another. As long as Barta and Pollard are around I have a feeling the 2 will continue this game every year or least extend the contract. Best bet as I mentioned earlier would be a neutral site game one year and 6 home games to play another power 5 team.
That's what I said, ditch the 7th home game every other year. I just altered your example to show how it would look.
Ok, at least you get what has to be sacrificed, so I applaud you for that. I don't believe many Hawkeye fans bitching about Iowa's schedule really get the problem.
Now, about that solution - you know that would cost the University about $3 million, maybe more depending on the assumptions we make? Maybe you could argue it will help sell more tickets for the years when some interesting P5 team (in this case Texas) has to come to Iowa City, but people might be pissed off if they're asked to make the same seat donations and only get 6 games every other year?
Wisconsin Badgers:
2018 - BYU
2017 - BYU
2016 - LSU
2015 - Alabama
2014 - LSU
2013 - ASU/LSU
I'd say they've earned a break. Iowa? Not so much.
And it would cost an additional $12 Million plus to the motels, restaurants, gas stations, stores, museums, convenience stores etc. These football games are absolutely vital to the business community. It is about money......period.
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Wyoming and MTSU are in a competition to see how many players they can kick off the team before Iowa crushes them. I wonder how many Cyclowns will get in trouble over the next few months?
Even those NIU games at Soldier Field aren't happening anymore with 9 BT games. Math of 7 home games won't allow it
Colin Cowherd went on a 5 minute rant today about Iowa Football and it's "cream puff" scheduling. Can't really disagree with him.
1. Hayden was not afraid of competition. Welcomed it.
2. Iowa plays ISU because of $$$. No other reason is even a close second. Guaranteed sellouts will continue to be scheduled as long as Almighty Dollar reigns supreme.
2. Iowa plays ISU because of $$$. No other reason is even a close second. Guaranteed sellouts will continue to be scheduled as long as Almighty Dollar reigns supreme.
Isn't the revenue from the Big Ten TV deal going to increase by like $25 million or something like that in a year or two? Seems they should be able to figure out how to make the budget work without a 7th home game.
Doesn't matter the football program and the AD have a crap ton of money hemorraging women's sports to pay for...they will always need the extra dough.
In what fantasy world is Texas scheduling a series with Iowa? Because it's not this one.
ISU would be replaced by Pitt or Arizona State. ISU is a more attractive game than those, and a higher financial return.
ISU would be replaced by Pitt or Arizona State. ISU is a more attractive game than those, and a higher financial return.
Looks like Cowturd had fun with this today of course. Unfortunately we have no rebuttal at this point.
the playoff system is illegitimate... its a beauty contest...
until teams earn their way into a playoff system, its a stupid system.
in College Football.. the only thing that has any real meaning is winning your Division... and the Pinnacle is winning your Conference Championship Game.
its an exciting event because its an in-state game where a lot of the participants played with and against one another in High School.
but the reality is... when it comes to competing for a Conference Championship game... the non con games have an extremely low importance.
Cowherd doesn't miss a chance to troll Iowa fans. I can say if you rip on Iowa's future non conference schedule fine but if you look at the past Iowa was one of few teams past 10-15 years that consistently had 2 power 5 programs on their schedule when there were 12 games, granted one was always one of the worst power 5 teams. But unlike that school in Lames who always filled their non conference schedule with Iowa and 3 weak teams every year. Least Iowa use to schedule schools like ASU, Arizona, Syracuse (after Mizzou backed out) and Pitt who when looking back those were 4 great competitive games. Plus early in KF era had Nebraska 2x and KState game. Yes none had a big name like Notre Dame or Texas but then again some people need to be realist that these schools aren't knocking down Iowa's door to play them.
As thread has discussed why future with ISU, 9 Conf games has lot of hurdles but to rip on Iowa's past non conference schedule is dumb. If Iowa's is bad then almost every SEC school is just as bad when all of them or close to it (13 of 14 last season) still mainly have 1 power 5 team with 3 cupcake schools and only 8 conference games.
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My rebuttal is why aren't ACC and SEC playing an extra conference game like Big 10, 12 and PAC 12 every year? Funny how most guys like Cowherd ignore this fact. While 3 conference play 9 games those 2 conferences are just having a chance to add that 3rd of for some 4th easy non conference game because pretty rare for any of them to play 2 power 5 schools anymore. Georgia did last year and FSU and Florida 2 of the few doing it next year.
I don't think you'll find many that would disagree that some SEC schools also have weak schedule, but that's not his point. His point is that we prop ourselves up with a weak schedule and then fall flat on our face by playing a bowl game we shouldn't be in.
Are any of those SEC teams with weak schedules you're referring to 0-5 in their last 5 bowl games?
So you are cool with finishing 8-4? Cool with losing to Iowa State, Illinois, and Minnesota? Getting shutout in the Rose Bowl? Kinda funny too how 2/3 of the teams you mention as noncon opponents are now in the B1G.
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