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HBOT posters over age 50: Is this the craziest time period you’ve lived through?

Military bases don't constitute an empire. We have no power over the domestic situations in those countries and many of those bases only exist with the permission of the host nation. Which means if the host nation told us to leave, we would.

That is super-power stuff for the purpose of force projection. One of the things that makes us the most powerful superpower in the history of the world isn't just size of our military or technology or even training, it's that our force projection is unmatched. Maybe the British empire came close, but no other empire in history could fight and win a war on the other side of the world.

I'm trying to think (I have admitted numerous times I am not bright). But, what wars have we 'won' on the opposite side of the world without significant aid from other countries? This is an honest question,,,,I really cannot think of any,,,,but they sure might be out there.
 
The biggest change in the last 25 years is the FOX propaganda machine that has indoctrinated so many individuals. Also I truly do think there is an outside (russian) propoganda machine that is influencing a lot of right wing positioning.
Propaganda is typically a 2 way street bunsen. I do agree FOX would be included.
 
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I'm trying to think (I have admitted numerous times I am not bright). But, what wars have we 'won' on the opposite side of the world without significant aid from other countries? This is an honest question,,,,I really cannot think of any,,,,but they sure might be out there.
Japan in WW2?
 
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I was talking to my Mom (no pics) who is 75 years old and my Aunt (no pics) this weekend and they both said the last 5 years with covid/Trump/Ukraine/Israel wars are unlike anything they have lived through.

My Mom said the Vietnam era wasn't close to as crazy as the times we live in today.

What's been your experience?
Sadly....as 4 year stretches go...yes. As far as one singular experience, I am not sure anything will ever touch 9/11 for me. 😞
 
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You needed more tin foil
Our antenna was mounted on a pole outside the house, but with grain bins, metal buildings, and too much distance from the TV towers we were lucky when the 3 main networks came in clearly!
 
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Didn't China, Australia, New Zealand, the UK, and Russia (later in the war) help fight in the Pacific? I'm not sure on all of them, I guess I can look it up.
I do not hold myself as some type of historian or WW2 buff. I was just riffing. Here is what google AI has to say - take it for what it's worth:

No, the United States did not receive aid to fight Japan in World War II; instead, the United States provided aid to other Allied nations, including China, through the Lend-Lease program, effectively supplying them with the necessary resources to fight against Japan while the U.S. gradually built up its own military strength before directly entering the war.

Key points about the U.S. role in WWII against Japan:
  • Lend-Lease:
    The primary way the U.S. supported the war effort against Japan was through the Lend-Lease program, which allowed them to provide military supplies and equipment to countries fighting against Axis powers, including China which was heavily engaged with Japan.

  • Economic pressure:
    Before directly entering the war, the U.S. imposed economic sanctions on Japan, including oil embargoes, which significantly limited Japan's access to vital resources, ultimately contributing to their decision to attack Pearl Harbor.

  • Industrial Powerhouse:
    Once the U.S. entered the war, its vast industrial capacity allowed it to produce a massive amount of weaponry and supplies needed to fight Japan in the Pacific theater.
 
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I don't think the traits listed above are unique to today's world. That type of behavior has been going on for thousands of years.

Kudos to you on the use of scripture!
I'm sure to a degree that's true, but doesn't it seem to you that's it's just so much worse now?
Just the last 20 years or so it seems to have taken a turn for the worse
 
I'm sure to a degree that's true, but doesn't it seem to you that's it's just so much worse now?
Just the last 20 years or so it seems to have taken a turn for the worse

I think it just seems that way because of the ease of communication. There has always been evil out there, we just learn about it immediately now.

Every generation thinks that the next generation is the worst and are ruining the world. Elvis is the devil kind of thing.

Just my opinion of course.
 
I think it just seems that way because of the ease of communication. There has always been evil out there, we just learn about it immediately now.

Every generation thinks that the next generation is the worst and are ruining the world. Elvis is the devil kind of thing.

Just my opinion of course.
I agree it has made it more visible. But even in a world where the internet was available it seems to me that people are so much worse now. It kinda started with the first Trump presidency (I don't have a horse in politics at all) and has just gotten steadily worse.
I mean look at HBOT! You have to admit at times it's almost unbearable to read anymore. Just adults that cannot even have a decent discussion without it evolving into a sh!t show of trading insults and threats. You now cannot have a different view and if you do you are my enemy! People used to be able to disagree and still have some sort of respect and humanity. That has disappeared.
There is no right and wrong anymore and in that environment, this is what you see. People making an argument for any type of behavior.
When you can't discuss a topic without becoming animals that's a problem.
 
I agree it has made it more visible. But even in a world where the internet was available it seems to me that people are so much worse now. It kinda started with the first Trump presidency (I don't have a horse in politics at all) and has just gotten steadily worse.
I mean look at HBOT! You have to admit at times it's almost unbearable to read anymore. Just adults that cannot even have a decent discussion without it evolving into a sh!t show of trading insults and threats. You now cannot have a different view and if you do you are my enemy! People used to be able to disagree and still have some sort of respect and humanity. That has disappeared.
There is no right and wrong anymore and in that environment, this is what you see. People making an argument for any type of behavior.
When you can't discuss a topic without becoming animals that's a problem.

Agreed. But I don't think that is a huge percentage of the population. The most extreme and vocal, sure.

I actually think the world is a LOT more tolerant than when I was young. It was common place to use the N word and no one thought a thing about it. People who lived different lifestyles had to hide as it was not accepted at all.

You make some very valid points, but we might just disagree on this one a bit.
 
I was in the 7th grade the day Kennedy was shot. The sadness and grief that day is hard to explain now. 9/11 was a kick in the ass, but it quickly turned into anger and the desire for revenge.
 
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Those culture objectives definitely changed under biden. And they changed very quickly. Biden ushered in dei and trans. So it did matter that he was president.

Trump has already made an effort to eradicate these 2 items and I have no doubt it will continue under his leadership.

Dei affected nearly everyone in the working world. Did you have to do diversity training in your job? That was from biden. Don't underestimate how much of a negative impact biden had on all of us.
DEI as you like to call it had its start in 1961 under Kennedy as affirmative action through executive order and strengthened further by executive order under LBJ, so you're way off on your timeline there, bucko.

And frankly the trans issue is so overplayed by the folks on the right, it's ridiculous. All Biden has done consistently is support their individual rights and tried to preserve their ability to make their own choices regarding their health care, attempting to keep it a personal decision between a family and their health care providers. Sorry that you don't think people should have a fundamental right to make their own health care decisions, how American of you. It seems Trump has had a very negative impact on you and how you perceive liberty, freedoms and individual rights. You line right up with his dictatorial style, a perfect fit.
 
DEI as you like to call it had its start in 1961 under Kennedy as affirmative action through executive order and strengthened further by executive order under LBJ, so you're way off on your timeline there, bucko.

And frankly the trans issue is so overplayed by the folks on the right, it's ridiculous. All Biden has done consistently is support their individual rights and tried to preserve their ability to make their own choices regarding their health care, attempting to keep it a personal decision between a family and their health care providers. Sorry that you don't think people should have a fundamental right to make their own health care decisions, how American of you. It seems Trump has had a very negative impact on you and how you perceive liberty, freedoms and individual rights. You line right up with his dictatorial style, a perfect fit.
Say what you want about when dei started, but there is no arguing that it grew exponentially worse under biden.
 
I'm trying to think (I have admitted numerous times I am not bright). But, what wars have we 'won' on the opposite side of the world without significant aid from other countries? This is an honest question,,,,I really cannot think of any,,,,but they sure might be out there.

Depends on the amount of aid you are talking about.

When we beat Japan we were probably providing at least 75% of the forces. When we invaded Iraq we were providing most of the forces as well.

However you are right generally speaking we have enlisted allies to some extent, but we've still provided the majority of the forces.
 
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Depends on the amount of aid you are talking about.

When we beat Japan we were probably providing at least 75% of the forces. When we invaded Iraq we were providing most of the forces as well.

However you are right generally speaking we have enlisted allies to some extent, but we've still provided the majority of the forces.

It is crazy to think that the 72 million or so Japanese were kicking China's 445 million's behind back in WWII.
 
Not specifically but looked it up to find out it was basically a unit responsible for a ton of their war crimes.
Some really great reading if that kind of stuff interests you.

One great quote I remember reading from a former member of the unit. "When asked if he would do it again, he replied "Yes, it's war and you have to win".
 
DEI as you like to call it had its start in 1961 under Kennedy as affirmative action through executive order and strengthened further by executive order under LBJ, so you're way off on your timeline there, bucko.

And frankly the trans issue is so overplayed by the folks on the right, it's ridiculous. All Biden has done consistently is support their individual rights and tried to preserve their ability to make their own choices regarding their health care, attempting to keep it a personal decision between a family and their health care providers. Sorry that you don't think people should have a fundamental right to make their own health care decisions, how American of you. It seems Trump has had a very negative impact on you and how you perceive liberty, freedoms and individual rights. You line right up with his dictatorial style, a perfect fit.
You are fundamentally wrong about the trans issue. Biden tried to normalize trans. Being trans is not normal, it is an abnormality and it should be treated as such. By normalizing trans and trying to mainstream it, it opened the door for thousands of kids to go down the trans path. This path is very damaging to a kids body and mind.

I know a lot about the trans stuff, so you may not understand the harm that has been put on the ae kids, but I do.

It was politicized by activists and the research was inconclusive at best and possibly criminal. It will be a dark point in medicine once it is reported how bad all this really was.

Ftr, I think all people should be treated respectfully, but I will not participate in the trans delusions.
 
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You are fundamentally wrong about the trans issue. Biden tried to normalize trans. Being trans is not normal, it is an abnormality and it should be treated as such. By normalizing trans and trying to mainstream it, it opened the door for thousands of kids to go down the trans path. This path is very damaging to a kids body and mind.

I know a lot about the trans stuff, so you may not understand the harm that has been put on the ae kids, but I do.

It was politicized by activists and the research was inconclusive at best and possibly criminal. It will be a dark point in medicine once it is reported how bad all this really was.

Ftr, I think all people should be treated respectfully, but I will not participate in the trans delusions.
Trans delusion? Is your position that trans people don't actually exist? Sure some kids may start thinking (wrongly so or rightly so) that they are now trans, but for the vast majority of them, that will eventually pass if they aren't actually trans. That's why I advocate that children in that position are given adequate care and counseling from competent health professionals. Trans people exist, to deny it is absurd. Trump and the GOP want to make them the target of their anger and hate, Biden wanted them to be accepted as people with innate rights just like everyone else (ahem, DEI?). That's apparently a bridge too far for some of us. If that's "normalizing" trans, then I support that sentiment fully.

It's astounding to me that some people in this country want to laser focus their hate on to a group of people who for the most part want to be left alone to live their lives as they see fit. A population that comprise ~0.4% of our total population, likely a million of our fellow citizens. It's the definition of bullying and brutality. Some of us in this country need to get our hearts right and our brains working again. Those among us without sympathy, compassion and empathy for others are truly lost souls.
 
The last 9-10 years have been the craziest I’ve ever seen leftist drama queens act. They’ve always been stupid (unilateral disarmament protests, WTO protests, Earth Day celebration that trashed the south oval at OU), but they’ve really gotten batshit off the rails crazy these last ten years. It’s become apparent that these people suffer from some form of “neurodivergence”, giving credence to the term “libtard”. Fortunately, I live in a very red area where leftists know their place, and know how to STFU.

The only drama queens I'm seeing on here are butthurt coon asses from economically disadvantaged areas like you. Your posting style exhibits a lot of neurodivergent traits. You might want to seek therapy and hopefully your spawns undergo genetics counseling for the obvious founder's effect disorders that your populations tend to have.
 
You would first have to define exactly what you mean by DEI, and then tell me what Biden did specifically to make DEI "worse", because I really have no idea what you're referring to.
It's like you haven't paid attention to anything the last 4 years. I am not here to educate you. Go read about it yourself. Google Biden dei initiatives. this isn't a hard concept.
 
Trans delusion? Is your position that trans people don't actually exist? Sure some kids may start thinking (wrongly so or rightly so) that they are now trans, but for the vast majority of them, that will eventually pass if they aren't actually trans. That's why I advocate that children in that position are given adequate care and counseling from competent health professionals. Trans people exist, to deny it is absurd. Trump and the GOP want to make them the target of their anger and hate, Biden wanted them to be accepted as people with innate rights just like everyone else (ahem, DEI?). That's apparently a bridge too far for some of us. If that's "normalizing" trans, then I support that sentiment fully.

It's astounding to me that some people in this country want to laser focus their hate on to a group of people who for the most part want to be left alone to live their lives as they see fit. A population that comprise ~0.4% of our total population, likely a million of our fellow citizens. It's the definition of bullying and brutality. Some of us in this country need to get our hearts right and our brains working again. Those among us without sympathy, compassion and empathy for others are truly lost souls.
Biden/democrats were enabling a social contagion. there is a very small percentage of people who have messed up anatomy or hormones where their physical characteristics don't match their hormones/internal organs. bit I don't think people are born in the wrong body like we are led to believe with trans. there feminine males and there are masculine females. this is normal among the population. but they don't just get to decide the are the opposite sex.
 
The only drama queens I'm seeing on here are butthurt coon asses from economically disadvantaged areas like you. Your posting style exhibits a lot of neurodivergent traits. You might want to seek therapy and hopefully your spawns undergo genetics counseling for the obvious founder's effect disorders that your populations tend to have.
☝🏻 triggered drama queen.

Ethnic slur again I see. Do as you say, not as you do, eh hypocrite?
 
Say what you want about when dei started, but there is no arguing that it grew exponentially worse under biden.

I've worked for large engineering firms under Obama, Trump, and Biden. The same training courses were done under all 3 of them. You can argue about their utility, as 99.999% of people just click a million times and get it over within 5 minutes, but they've been around a while with little change.
 
I believe you are spot on with Limbaugh IMO, He brought divisiveness mainstream and he was on the radio everywhere. He was a driving force in making hating your enemies popular.

Those on the right today calling people sheep (do your own research! says the person that barely graduated high school) were calling themselves dittoheads not too long ago.
 
The only drama queens I'm seeing on here are butthurt coon asses from economically disadvantaged areas like you. Your posting style exhibits a lot of neurodivergent traits. You might want to seek therapy and hopefully your spawns undergo genetics counseling for the obvious founder's effect disorders that your populations tend to have.
I dig your compassion..
 
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It is crazy to think that the 72 million or so Japanese were kicking China's 445 million's behind back in WWII.
Not really. Japan was much more industrialized. China was still a very underdeveloped, disunited nation with internal rivalries, no air force, and no navy.
 
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DEI as you like to call it had its start in 1961 under Kennedy as affirmative action through executive order and strengthened further by executive order under LBJ, so you're way off on your timeline there, bucko.

And frankly the trans issue is so overplayed by the folks on the right, it's ridiculous. All Biden has done consistently is support their individual rights and tried to preserve their ability to make their own choices regarding their health care, attempting to keep it a personal decision between a family and their health care providers. Sorry that you don't think people should have a fundamental right to make their own health care decisions, how American of you. It seems Trump has had a very negative impact on you and how you perceive liberty, freedoms and individual rights. You line right up with his dictatorial style, a perfect fit.
Gaslighting
 
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