HBOT posters over age 50: Is this the craziest time period you’ve lived through?

[WSC72]

Military bases don't constitute an empire. We have no power over the domestic situations in those countries and many of those bases only exist with the permission of the host nation. Which means if the host nation told us to leave, we would.

That is super-power stuff for the purpose of force projection. One of the things that makes us the most powerful superpower in the history of the world isn't just size of our military or technology or even training, it's that our force projection is unmatched. Maybe the British empire came close, but no other empire in history could fight and win a war on the other side of the world.

I'm trying to think (I have admitted numerous times I am not bright). But, what wars have we 'won' on the opposite side of the world without significant aid from other countries? This is an honest question,,,,I really cannot think of any,,,,but they sure might be out there.

 

[WSC72]

The biggest change in the last 25 years is the FOX propaganda machine that has indoctrinated so many individuals. Also I truly do think there is an outside (russian) propoganda machine that is influencing a lot of right wing positioning.

Propaganda is typically a 2 way street bunsen. I do agree FOX would be included.

 

[Tenacious E]

I'm trying to think (I have admitted numerous times I am not bright). But, what wars have we 'won' on the opposite side of the world without significant aid from other countries? This is an honest question,,,,I really cannot think of any,,,,but they sure might be out there.

Japan in WW2?

 

[gohawks50]

Correct, but you forgot PBS.

It didn't come in on my family's antenna TV in the country so it wasn't an option for me.

 

[WSC72]

Japan in WW2?

Didn't China, Australia, New Zealand, the UK, and Russia (later in the war) help fight in the Pacific? I'm not sure on all of them, I guess I can look it up.

 

[WSC72]

It didn't come in on my family's antenna TV in the country so It wasn't an option for me.

You needed more tin foil

 

[Hawkman34]

I was talking to my Mom (no pics) who is 75 years old and my Aunt (no pics) this weekend and they both said the last 5 years with covid/Trump/Ukraine/Israel wars are unlike anything they have lived through.

My Mom said the Vietnam era wasn't close to as crazy as the times we live in today.

What's been your experience?

Sadly....as 4 year stretches go...yes. As far as one singular experience, I am not sure anything will ever touch 9/11 for me. 😞

 

[gohawks50]

You needed more tin foil

Our antenna was mounted on a pole outside the house, but with grain bins, metal buildings, and too much distance from the TV towers we were lucky when the 3 main networks came in clearly!

 

[WSC72]

Our antenna was mounted on a pole outside the house, but with grain bins, metal buildings, and too much distance from the TV towers we were lucky when the 3 main networks came in clearly!

The woes of our youth!

 

[Tenacious E]

Didn't China, Australia, New Zealand, the UK, and Russia (later in the war) help fight in the Pacific? I'm not sure on all of them, I guess I can look it up.

I do not hold myself as some type of historian or WW2 buff. I was just riffing. Here is what google AI has to say - take it for what it's worth:

No, the United States did not receive aid to fight Japan in World War II; instead, the United States provided aid to other Allied nations, including China, through the Lend-Lease program, effectively supplying them with the necessary resources to fight against Japan while the U.S. gradually built up its own military strength before directly entering the war.

Key points about the U.S. role in WWII against Japan:

• Lend-Lease:
  The primary way the U.S. supported the war effort against Japan was through the Lend-Lease program, which allowed them to provide military supplies and equipment to countries fighting against Axis powers, including China which was heavily engaged with Japan.
  
  
• Economic pressure:
  Before directly entering the war, the U.S. imposed economic sanctions on Japan, including oil embargoes, which significantly limited Japan's access to vital resources, ultimately contributing to their decision to attack Pearl Harbor.
  
  
• Industrial Powerhouse:
  Once the U.S. entered the war, its vast industrial capacity allowed it to produce a massive amount of weaponry and supplies needed to fight Japan in the Pacific theater.

 

[the24fan]

I don't think the traits listed above are unique to today's world. That type of behavior has been going on for thousands of years.

Kudos to you on the use of scripture!

I'm sure to a degree that's true, but doesn't it seem to you that's it's just so much worse now?
Just the last 20 years or so it seems to have taken a turn for the worse

 

[WSC72]

I'm sure to a degree that's true, but doesn't it seem to you that's it's just so much worse now?
Just the last 20 years or so it seems to have taken a turn for the worse

I think it just seems that way because of the ease of communication. There has always been evil out there, we just learn about it immediately now.

Every generation thinks that the next generation is the worst and are ruining the world. Elvis is the devil kind of thing.

Just my opinion of course.

 

[the24fan]

I think it just seems that way because of the ease of communication. There has always been evil out there, we just learn about it immediately now.

Every generation thinks that the next generation is the worst and are ruining the world. Elvis is the devil kind of thing.

Just my opinion of course.

I agree it has made it more visible. But even in a world where the internet was available it seems to me that people are so much worse now. It kinda started with the first Trump presidency (I don't have a horse in politics at all) and has just gotten steadily worse.
I mean look at HBOT! You have to admit at times it's almost unbearable to read anymore. Just adults that cannot even have a decent discussion without it evolving into a sh!t show of trading insults and threats. You now cannot have a different view and if you do you are my enemy! People used to be able to disagree and still have some sort of respect and humanity. That has disappeared.
There is no right and wrong anymore and in that environment, this is what you see. People making an argument for any type of behavior.
When you can't discuss a topic without becoming animals that's a problem.

 

[WSC72]

I agree it has made it more visible. But even in a world where the internet was available it seems to me that people are so much worse now. It kinda started with the first Trump presidency (I don't have a horse in politics at all) and has just gotten steadily worse.
I mean look at HBOT! You have to admit at times it's almost unbearable to read anymore. Just adults that cannot even have a decent discussion without it evolving into a sh!t show of trading insults and threats. You now cannot have a different view and if you do you are my enemy! People used to be able to disagree and still have some sort of respect and humanity. That has disappeared.
There is no right and wrong anymore and in that environment, this is what you see. People making an argument for any type of behavior.
When you can't discuss a topic without becoming animals that's a problem.

Agreed. But I don't think that is a huge percentage of the population. The most extreme and vocal, sure.

I actually think the world is a LOT more tolerant than when I was young. It was common place to use the N word and no one thought a thing about it. People who lived different lifestyles had to hide as it was not accepted at all.

You make some very valid points, but we might just disagree on this one a bit.

 

[soybean]

I was in the 7th grade the day Kennedy was shot. The sadness and grief that day is hard to explain now. 9/11 was a kick in the ass, but it quickly turned into anger and the desire for revenge.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

Those culture objectives definitely changed under biden. And they changed very quickly. Biden ushered in dei and trans. So it did matter that he was president.

Trump has already made an effort to eradicate these 2 items and I have no doubt it will continue under his leadership.

Dei affected nearly everyone in the working world. Did you have to do diversity training in your job? That was from biden. Don't underestimate how much of a negative impact biden had on all of us.

DEI as you like to call it had its start in 1961 under Kennedy as affirmative action through executive order and strengthened further by executive order under LBJ, so you're way off on your timeline there, bucko.

And frankly the trans issue is so overplayed by the folks on the right, it's ridiculous. All Biden has done consistently is support their individual rights and tried to preserve their ability to make their own choices regarding their health care, attempting to keep it a personal decision between a family and their health care providers. Sorry that you don't think people should have a fundamental right to make their own health care decisions, how American of you. It seems Trump has had a very negative impact on you and how you perceive liberty, freedoms and individual rights. You line right up with his dictatorial style, a perfect fit.