Ukraine. What a great ally! We must protect their border. We must pay millions to encourage people to cross our borders. This the dem doctrine now. No wonders bill maher named you as the party of no Commonsense. I wonder why trump won ?
Hegseth calls Ukraine’s peace goals ‘unrealistic’ in meeting with allies
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Fiscal conservatives loved the 6+ trillion Iraq and Afghanistan wars against geopolitical nobodies. Hate fractions of US military budget kneecapping one of top geopolitical foes though.
If what you spout is common sense(by the way, it's two words) I'll have none of it. All you do is listen to the right wing lies and then repeat them here. You are a clown with out any sense at all, and a lying piece of shit. You would rather be a good nazi than a decent human being. You are scum.
In regards to the statements made by Trump about Gaza, Panama, Greenland, etc. the Trump supporters are giddy about the bombastic statements made. "We have to establish a negotiating position" or "It's part of the art of the deal". Trump doesn't really mean for those huge ideas to happen. We aren't really taking over Gaza or Greenland. It's just to start the negotiation from a position of strength. For Ukraine Hegseth says you suck Ukraine and need to roll over for Russia. GIve them the land you had illegally and immorally invaded by Russia. No, you can't join NATO, it's a non-starter. Give Putin whatever he wants and give the USA a bunch of mineral and other rights. How the hell does that work? Russia is NOT our ally. Why are we rolling over to start? Someone want to explain how the different approaches make sense?
And yet he said the opposite.
He said we're re-orienting to the Pacific:
"We also face a peer competitor in China with the capability and intent to threaten our homeland and core national interests in the Indo-Pacific."
"The U.S. is prioritizing deterring war with China in the Pacific, recognizing the reality of scarcity, and making the resourcing tradeoffs to ensure deterrence does not fail,"
Russia isn't attacking any NATO members. The Trump administration is taking the same position as the Obama administration:
Speaking with the Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg after Russia’s annexation of Crimea and aggression in the Donbas, Obama emphasized the limits of his commitment to Ukraine. As Goldberg wrote: “Obama’s theory here is simple: Ukraine is a core Russian interest but not an American one, so Russia will always be able to maintain escalatory dominance there.” Goldberg then cited Obama as saying, “The fact is that Ukraine, which is a non-NATO country, is going to be vulnerable to military domination by Russia no matter what we do.”
Y'all need to quit trying to sign America up for a war Americans don't want to fight.
There's simply no stomach for that fight in the American population, or the West European.
Ahhh... scruffy joins his idol Bonespurs in bowing to Putin. Nor suprising... American used to stand up to dictators. No more... just the love buddies. So sad
Dems really are going to unravel (more, somehow) when trump ends the ukraine war in his firat 90 days in office.
Oh no. He ends it Day 1... remember he promised you.. and you belived him. What day are we at now? 🤣🤣🤣
Are you saying Corrupt Filthy Don will be kissing Putie's ass the next 4 years, I do agree with that.
