Here’s why you better fear the crisis over the debt ceiling
- Thread starter cigaretteman
- Start date
Clinton clearly peaked for a while on debt, he may have gotten the deficit down for a while and paid some debt with his "surpluses" but clearly not enough, then bush didn't do it, then Obama: it skyrockets. if Obama is the party which addresses the deficit, and then uses said surplus money to pay down debt, he clearly is failing his party
Obama isn't running for election, but Clinton is.
Clinton clearly peaked for a while on debt, he may have gotten the deficit down for a while and paid some debt with his "surpluses" but clearly not enough, then bush didn't do it, then Obama: it skyrockets. if Obama is the party which addresses the deficit, and then uses said surplus money to pay down debt, he clearly is failing his party
yes, I'm aware you can try to as a prez, but the congress holds the purse, but also look at this chart above: if you get a deficit back into a surplus, you can pay some bills and hopefully pay down a debt or two. clearly Obama and bush and Clinton did not pay down the debts enough. clearly, we are screwed
plus it is clear they are not paying their bills, as evidenced by medicare and social security being broke, and the high cost of welfare, and wars, etc. these guys are barely paying the interest on the debt and probably not even that.
you said the only party to address this stuff has been the party of Clinton, I will admit he got the deficit down, but he did not pay much of the debt down with it, and he more than likely was forced to get the deficit down by newt, so by this logic, we need to install newt back to speaker of the house
That's not what I wrote, go read it again. I said the Clintons were the only team from either party to successfully take on this issue. You agree. If you want the debt brought down, Clinton is the clear logical choice. She also has conservative tax, labor, trade, industrial and foreign policy. About the only thing she is liberal on is abortion and family leave which are very minor points for a President big picture. Rs should rally around Clinton and they will get everything they want with the likely exception of SCOTUS nominees.
Wasn't she in office with Bill? Wasn't she really? If you liked the 90's, you will be happy with Hillary.
One could, and rightfully so, argue that Newt forced "The Clinton" to do the right thing.
That still works, you have the Newt part of the equation in place already. Rs are expected to maintain control of the house in 2016. A D in the whitehouse is the recipe for fiscal sanity and you already know the Clintons favor that goal and are willing to partner to make it happen. Any other option is a risk. Any of the Rs risk a spending spree and none of the other Ds have a history of compromise. Cons would be smart to elect Hillary.
I'm saying the Clintons were a team and will be again. Hillary with be the 3rd term for the Clintons. If you liked the 90's you will like Hillary.
Well, there is no Newt in the house this time, and the party has changed since the 90s. Also, Hillary may not behave as Bill did after the mid-terms when he moved more towards the center. Maybe Hillary doubles down like Obama and stands firm, and even goes beyond standing firm.
That's giving him too much credit, actually.
You will NEVER reduce "The Debt" without removing the Federal Reserve Banking Cartel from power. The system is designed to only incur more debt with every passing second. And, I find it extremely hard to imagine, let alone believe, that Americans will ever be likely to elect people who would even dream of challenging the Fed in any way, shape, or form, let alone remove it. They bought this country. They own it. Your elections are sideshows on their best days.
