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Here is how you win a war Obama

Jakeleg Jake

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I am proud to have lived in a country that contained these men...am ashamed to be an American with the farce of a president we have now.
 
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Well, it would certainly help if your Republican congress would authorize the use of force, but they'd rather do everything in their power to make things difficult for President Obama, rather than doing what's in the best interest of the country.
 
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Well, it would certainly help if your Republican congress would authorize the use of force, but they'd rather do everything in their power to make things difficult for President Obama, rather than doing what's in the best interest of the country.
Obama...and please do not refer to this con artist and disgrace as "President"...has never done one thing for the benefit of this country...now please go play in the middle of a busy street and take pointed ears with you.
 
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please refer us to the part of the constitution where it says the president makes wars and holds the purse strings and congress is supposed to bow down to hitler and do what he says?
 
also, please show us in recent history when the congress was dem, and Obama wanted to go into Syria, and the dems approved it??
 
Give me a break, Jake. The Republicans are basically offering the same solutions to dealing with ISIS. You may not like it that ISIS is a tough nut to crack and can't be simply carpet bombed, but that's where we're at.
 
Give me a break, Jake. The Republicans are basically offering the same solutions to dealing with ISIS. You may not like it that ISIS is a tough nut to crack and can't be simply carpet bombed, but that's where we're at.
just because one canadien said it , does not make it "where we are at"
 
just because one canadien said it , does not make it "where we are at"
Come on, OIT. ISIS is hiding out among civilians. Carpet bombing them would be a terrible idea. ISIS doesn't have the centralization of a traditional military. They aren't grouped in the thousands just waiting to be taken out. They are largely hidden, which is why they are so hard to kill. And most of the GOP candidates understand this, which is why they are offering the same solutions as Obama.
 
the problem with isis , and trump will figure this out: isis is an invention of the state department and cia. there is no actual isis. the proof is al q. they said we got bin laden and al q is dead. wrong. we could kill the new leader and here comes the next, same as the first. it's an invention. it goes back to Mohammad Mosaddegh and then Charlie Wilson's war
 
Come on, OIT. ISIS is hiding out among civilians. Carpet bombing them would be a terrible idea. ISIS doesn't have the centralization of a traditional military. They aren't grouped in the thousands just waiting to be taken out. They are largely hidden, which is why they are so hard to kill. And most of the GOP candidates understand this, which is why they are offering the same solutions as Obama.
I know and just because cruz said it, does not make it where we are at

they are hiding amongst civilians because THEY ARE THE CIVILIANS

the solution to getting rid of isis is to get rid of bush and Hillary and Obama and the state department and the pentagon, and the cia, these are the folks who invented it, and the new world order who calls the shots
 
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I am proud to have lived in a country that contained these men...am ashamed to be an American with the farce of a president we have now.

Funny....the British tried this tactic in India....until the Indians ran them out.
The Soviets did the same in Afghanistan....until the Afghans ran them out.

Doesn't seem like this is the wondrous tactic you think it is....
 
I know and just because cruz said it, does not make it where we are at

they are hiding amongst civilians because THEY ARE THE CIVILIANS

the solution to getting rid of isis is to get rid of bush and Hillary and Obama and the state department and the pentagon, and the cia, these are the folks who invented it, and the new world order who calls the shots
I was really hoping to have a rational discussion with you for once.
 
and besides, you guys talk about the republicans like they are a separate entity from the dems- they are not. they are all in bed together making sweet, sweet love and inventing boogey mans. making terrorist babies.
 
I was really hoping to have a rational discussion with you for once.
it is rational: history proved with al q and Charlie wilsons war and mohammed mossedegh and randy weaver and tim McVeigh and mt carmel. but ok, let's do it your way: rationally there are a bunch of civilians, hiding amongst a bunch of civilians, and Obama thinks drone bombing them is better than carpet bombing, but in reality it is the same. Obama kills innocents, the republicans wish to kill civilians. what is the difference? none. if bush does a war or police action it's wrong and if Obama does bombings it's right? ok, that's rational.
 
Give me a break, Jake. The Republicans are basically offering the same solutions to dealing with ISIS. You may not like it that ISIS is a tough nut to crack and can't be simply carpet bombed, but that's where we're at.
Oh I agree...would compare ISIS to cockroaches and rats...they will always be there...you must exterminate as many as you can but that also requires preventative measures as well.
 
Obama...and please do not refer to this con artist and disgrace as "President"...has never done one thing for the benefit of this country...now please go play in the middle of a busy street and take pointed ears with you.

If you truly believe that President Obama has never done one thing for the benefit of this country then you truly are as stupid as you seem. There was a time when an educated electorate could disagree with the other party but realize everyone was trying to work for the greater good, just in different ways. Then along came the Tea Party and morons like you...
 
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Well, it would certainly help if your Republican congress would authorize the use of force, but they'd rather do everything in their power to make things difficult for President Obama, rather than doing what's in the best interest of the country.


yeah....but he has a cell phone and a pen. Remember....he deemed himself too important to need congress when he needed to get something done.
 
If you truly believe that President Obama has never done one thing for the benefit of this country then you truly are as stupid as you seem. There was a time when an educated electorate could disagree with the other party but realize everyone was trying to work for the greater good, just in different ways. Then along came the Tea Party and morons like you...
If you think this clown has been a positive force for anything that has benefitted this county you are an uneducated moron...which by the way I have long since come to the conclusion you are.
 
Well, it would certainly help if your Republican congress would authorize the use of force, but they'd rather do everything in their power to make things difficult for President Obama, rather than doing what's in the best interest of the country.
What's in the best interest of the country is to stop the wars altogether.
 
I would rather just not participate in wars. Other countries can collect wins and loses over the corpses of their youth.
 
If you think this clown has been a positive force for anything that has benefitted this county you are an uneducated moron...which by the way I have long since come to the conclusion you are.
You do realize that you are asking future generations to fight a war which ultimately will never be won unless we commit genocide correct? Are you sure you're an American? Or are you a Nazi in disguise? I'm sure Adolf Hitler would agree with you.
 
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Well, it would certainly help if your Republican congress would authorize the use of force, but they'd rather do everything in their power to make things difficult for President Obama, rather than doing what's in the best interest of the country.

Why do you respond to an obvious troll job? He isn't even good at it.
 
We could easily defeat ISIS. I don't think Americans (or the world for that matter) has the stomach for it tho.
 
You do realize that you are asking future generations to fight a war which ultimately will never be won unless we commit genocide correct? Are you sure you're an American? Or are you a Nazi in disguise? I'm sure Adolf Hitler would agree with you.
So your solution is to tell our future generations to sit back and succumb to defeat subjugation and destruction? You aren't giving them much of a choice are you? Maybe it is their "genocide" you are wanting. Sure you aren't a radical Muslim plant here?
 
Tell me how we "easily" defeat ISIS.


Like you do with any animal, you hunt them. Not large groups of platoons (although you could do that). Basically you start assassinating them. You terrorize the terrorists. Mercenaries would do this, it would be ugly and the rest of the world would be upset.

Basically, no rules.
 
Like you do with any animal, you hunt them. Not large groups of platoons (although you could do that). Basically you start assassinating them. You terrorize the terrorists. Mercenaries would do this, it would be ugly and the rest of the world would be upset.

Basically, no rules.

I actually kind of like this idea.
 
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Like you do with any animal, you hunt them. Not large groups of platoons (although you could do that). Basically you start assassinating them. You terrorize the terrorists. Mercenaries would do this, it would be ugly and the rest of the world would be upset.

Basically, no rules.

Oh yeah. The middle east will totally just succumb to domination. It won't just birth ISIS part 2. But anything to feel safe at the mall from the .00000000001 percent chance that hodgey attacks it.
 
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Oh yeah. The middle east will totally just succumb to domination. It won't just birth ISIS part 2. But anything to feel safe at the mall from the .00000000001 percent chance that hodgey attacks it.


You don't announce it, in fact you're very quiet about it. The government doesn't mention anything about it. The Israelis basically hunted down ex Nazis after WWII. Found many of them in South America under fake names.

You're still trying to play by rules, I just want to win. That's where you and I differ. Apparently I'm warped because I could give the orders and still sleep at night.
 
Swag, you would be just killing minions. We need to take out the guys who call the shots. More minions will keep popping up
 
You don't announce it, in fact you're very quiet about it. The government doesn't mention anything about it. The Israelis basically hunted down ex Nazis after WWII. Found many of them in South America under fake names.

You're still trying to play by rules, I just want to win. That's where you and I differ. Apparently I'm warped because I could give the orders and still sleep at night.

What is the premise of your argument here? That the Nazis would have made a come back if Israel would not have been hunting them?

I wonder was the USSR taking it easy on Afghanistan when they were there?

You're warped because you think the orders need to be given. Basically you would just create more terrorists. But have at another war on metaphors if you want. The war on crime, poverty, terror, and drugs are all probably nearing an end anyway.
 
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What is the premise of your argument here? That the Nazis would have made a come back if Israel would not have been hunting them?

I wonder was the USSR taking it easy on Afghanistan when they were there?

You're warped because you think the orders need to be given. Basically you would just create more terrorists. But have at another war on metaphors if you want. The war on crime, poverty, terror, and drugs are all probably nearing an end anyway.


As long as there is the real threat of them coming here, yes we need to do what has to be done. The Nazis were hunted down because the Israelis wanted justice. We already know who these people are, it's not a war. It's the real pin prick that Obama has been talking about.

You're scared that they won't like us, they already don't like us.
 
Swag, you would be just killing minions. We need to take out the guys who call the shots. More minions will keep popping up


Well yes, we do cut the head off of the snake. However we constantly make body blows as well. Like I said, we don't announce it and keep it quiet.
 
So your solution is to tell our future generations to sit back and succumb to defeat subjugation and destruction? You aren't giving them much of a choice are you? Maybe it is their "genocide" you are wanting. Sure you aren't a radical Muslim plant here?
No...Hitler. You see, you can and should negotiate. It's as simple as, you quit f'n with me, and I'll quit f'n with you. The problem is that we have NEVER said that we would quite f'n with them. The propaganda that YOU fall for, has made you believe that YOU are the good guy. You're just a guy really, but you're part of the people who are 'led' by tyrants in DC.

Why are they going to lay down their weapons if we refuse to do the same?
 
So your solution is to tell our future generations to sit back and succumb to defeat subjugation and destruction? You aren't giving them much of a choice are you? Maybe it is their "genocide" you are wanting. Sure you aren't a radical Muslim plant here?
Oh I'm radical alright. I'm radically informed on how it takes two to tango, and two to stop the dance.
 
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