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Students arrived in some Florida public school classrooms this month to find their teachers’ bookshelves wrapped in paper — or entirely barren of books — after district officials launched a review of the texts’ appropriateness under a new state law.

School officials in at least two counties, Manatee and Duval, have directed teachers this month to remove or wrap up their classroom libraries, according to records obtained by The Washington Post. The removals come in response to fresh guidance issued by the Florida Department of Education in mid-January, after the State Board of Education ruled that a law restricting the books a district may possess applies not only to schoolwide libraries but to teachers’ classroom collections, too.

House Bill 1467, which took effect as law in July, mandates that schools’ books be age-appropriate, free from pornography and “suited to student needs.” Books must be approved by a qualified school media specialist, who must undergo a state retraining on book collection. The Education Department did not publish that training until January, leaving school librarians across Florida unable to order books for more than a year.






Breaking the law is a third-degree felony, meaning that a teacher could face up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine for displaying or giving students a disallowed book.
Students want new books. Thanks to restrictions, librarians can’t buy them.
The efforts to conceal titles in Manatee and Duval have stirred outrage from educators and parents, many of whom shared images of bare wooden shelves or books veiled behind sheets of colored paper. Teachers wrote in Facebook posts and text messages that they are angry and disheartened. District officials in both counties have emphasized that the removals are temporary and will last only until staff can determine whether the titles meet the standards imposed by Florida law.
Michelle Jarrett, president of the Florida Association of Supervisors of Media, which assists school library administrators and programs statewide, said that “closing and covering up classroom libraries does nothing to ensure Florida’s students remain on track for reading success.”



And Marie Masferrer, a board member of the Florida Association for Media in Education and a school librarian who used to work in the Manatee County system and remains in close touch with former colleagues in that district, said they have told her that students are struggling.
At one school, “the kids began crying and writing letters to the principal, saying, ‘Please don’t take my books, please don’t do this,’” Masferrer said.
A spokesman for the School District of Manatee County said in a statement Monday that the district “is abiding by all applicable laws and statutes of the state of Florida, and adhering to the guidance of the Florida Department of Education.”

A spokeswoman for Duval County Public Schools wrote in a statement Monday that “we are taking the steps required to comply with Florida law,” adding that “there are almost 800 titles currently approved, and the list grows each day as books are reviewed.”


The department’s new rule, published and approved Jan. 18, “clarifies that library materials, including classroom libraries, must be approved and selected by a media specialist.” This goes against precedent: Classroom libraries have historically been overseen by no one but teachers, who simply selected and stocked books they believed might be intriguing to students. Often, teachers bought these texts with their own money or by fundraising online.
During a televised hearing before the Florida House Education Quality Subcommittee on Jan. 25, Education Department Chancellor Paul Burns was asked by Rep. Christopher Benjamin (D-Miami Gardens) whether the department’s guidance and training on book collection could yield “unintended consequences.”

Burns said he was unaware of any, but “if there’s any changes that need to be made ... we’re certainly open to that.” The Florida Education Department did not respond to questions, including one about whether the latest developments might constitute unintended consequences.




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Manatee County’s January directive, obtained by The Post, says teachers who maintain elementary and secondary classroom libraries must “remove or cover all materials that have not been vetted” in accordance with state law. Going forward, any classroom library books must be “reviewed by a media specialist using the FDOE guidelines” before they are “presented and approved” at a special school meeting and finally “signed off by the principal.”
When one teacher emailed Manatee Superintendent Cynthia Saunders with questions and concerns about the directive, Saunders replied that violating the state law on book collection amounts to “a felony of the third degree,” according to a copy of the superintendent’s email obtained by The Post.

“We are seeking volunteers to assist with vetting and compiling [a] website list so books can be returned to classroom libraries,” Saunders wrote.


The district declined to comment on Saunders’s email or to answer a question about when school officials might complete their reconsideration of classroom library books.
In Duval County, the district published a brief blog post on Jan. 23 announcing that, after “recent training and direction from the state, Duval County Public schools will now conduct a formal review of classroom libraries.”
Two days later, the district shared with staffers a private, unlisted YouTube video titled “Classroom Libraries.” In the seven-minute video, obtained by The Post, Chief Academic Officer Paula Renfro announced that “classroom libraries will be temporarily reduced to only include ... books that have been approved by certified media specialists and books on the state-approved” list.

“In the meantime, books not on the district-approved list or not approved by a certified media specialist need to be covered or stored and paused for student use,” Renfro said. “As a reminder, though, this is temporary.”


She said that school officials are working to get classroom books “back to students’ hands as quickly as possible,” and that the district is considering giving teachers free time to vet books, as well as reemploying retired school library media specialists to help with the process.
Manatee Education Association President Pat Barber said in an interview that she has received many confused and concerned questions from teacher members about the district’s new policy on classroom libraries. She said educators are “distressed” by the idea of possibly receiving a third-degree felony conviction for simply providing books to children, which they used to view as part of their jobs.

“And if they are required to vet all the books in their classroom libraries, where the time will come from?” Barber said. “We’re talking about, for some people, thousands of books because they have developed these libraries over years.”
Although teachers in Manatee and Duval have aired their frustration in private social media posts, employees in both districts declined interview requests, citing school policies and fear of losing their jobs.
“I have over 800 books so it’s been a huge mess,” wrote one in a text message provided to The Post by Masferrer. “The kids don’t understand it’s just so sad.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educ...op-woke-manatee-county-duval-county-desantis/
 
Why hasn't there been a 1st amendment violation lawsuit in this yet? Where is the ACLU? I get that teacher's unions in Florida have been regulated out of existence there, but someone needs to step in.
Because it isn't a first amendment violation.
 
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Yeah, right. Charging people with felonies for having an "unapproved" book is totally what the intention of Founding Fathers was.
even if it doesn't raise first amendment principles, it's probably a fair bet that particularly in a criminal context, we have a major due process vagueness problem here.

EDIT: Interestingly and ironically enough, you probably also have a problem that is pretty much identical to the nature of the separation of powers claims/challenges that the gun lobby has brought in the bump stocks cases, i.e., that criminal offenses must be defined by Congress, and not left for definition by a regulator (here, a "retrain[ed]" "qualified school media specialist").

That said, probably better to stand your ground and defend on one of those bases rather than to engage in coordinated concealment-like conduct that some local yokel prosecutor will try to spin into a charge for some weird conspiracy or obstruction-like offense that doesn't implicate constitutionally protected conduct.
 
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I'm sure their intention was to allow maga scum to espouse their hate speech.
Unfortunately, that's a consequence of it. They can spew that crap all they want and the government can't arrest them for it. The first amendment, however, does not protect them from losing their job or having the public at large tell them to go stick it. Or, to be "canceled" as they've coined it. And since they know they can't do anything legally about that, they are choosing to use it as another source of being victimized.
 
Students arrived in some Florida public school classrooms this month to find their teachers’ bookshelves wrapped in paper — or entirely barren of books — after district officials launched a review of the texts’ appropriateness under a new state law.

School officials in at least two counties, Manatee and Duval, have directed teachers this month to remove or wrap up their classroom libraries, according to records obtained by The Washington Post. The removals come in response to fresh guidance issued by the Florida Department of Education in mid-January, after the State Board of Education ruled that a law restricting the books a district may possess applies not only to schoolwide libraries but to teachers’ classroom collections, too.

House Bill 1467, which took effect as law in July, mandates that schools’ books be age-appropriate, free from pornography and “suited to student needs.” Books must be approved by a qualified school media specialist, who must undergo a state retraining on book collection. The Education Department did not publish that training until January, leaving school librarians across Florida unable to order books for more than a year.






Breaking the law is a third-degree felony, meaning that a teacher could face up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine for displaying or giving students a disallowed book.
Students want new books. Thanks to restrictions, librarians can’t buy them.
The efforts to conceal titles in Manatee and Duval have stirred outrage from educators and parents, many of whom shared images of bare wooden shelves or books veiled behind sheets of colored paper. Teachers wrote in Facebook posts and text messages that they are angry and disheartened. District officials in both counties have emphasized that the removals are temporary and will last only until staff can determine whether the titles meet the standards imposed by Florida law.
Michelle Jarrett, president of the Florida Association of Supervisors of Media, which assists school library administrators and programs statewide, said that “closing and covering up classroom libraries does nothing to ensure Florida’s students remain on track for reading success.”



And Marie Masferrer, a board member of the Florida Association for Media in Education and a school librarian who used to work in the Manatee County system and remains in close touch with former colleagues in that district, said they have told her that students are struggling.
At one school, “the kids began crying and writing letters to the principal, saying, ‘Please don’t take my books, please don’t do this,’” Masferrer said.
A spokesman for the School District of Manatee County said in a statement Monday that the district “is abiding by all applicable laws and statutes of the state of Florida, and adhering to the guidance of the Florida Department of Education.”

A spokeswoman for Duval County Public Schools wrote in a statement Monday that “we are taking the steps required to comply with Florida law,” adding that “there are almost 800 titles currently approved, and the list grows each day as books are reviewed.”


The department’s new rule, published and approved Jan. 18, “clarifies that library materials, including classroom libraries, must be approved and selected by a media specialist.” This goes against precedent: Classroom libraries have historically been overseen by no one but teachers, who simply selected and stocked books they believed might be intriguing to students. Often, teachers bought these texts with their own money or by fundraising online.
During a televised hearing before the Florida House Education Quality Subcommittee on Jan. 25, Education Department Chancellor Paul Burns was asked by Rep. Christopher Benjamin (D-Miami Gardens) whether the department’s guidance and training on book collection could yield “unintended consequences.”

Burns said he was unaware of any, but “if there’s any changes that need to be made ... we’re certainly open to that.” The Florida Education Department did not respond to questions, including one about whether the latest developments might constitute unintended consequences.


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Manatee County’s January directive, obtained by The Post, says teachers who maintain elementary and secondary classroom libraries must “remove or cover all materials that have not been vetted” in accordance with state law. Going forward, any classroom library books must be “reviewed by a media specialist using the FDOE guidelines” before they are “presented and approved” at a special school meeting and finally “signed off by the principal.”
When one teacher emailed Manatee Superintendent Cynthia Saunders with questions and concerns about the directive, Saunders replied that violating the state law on book collection amounts to “a felony of the third degree,” according to a copy of the superintendent’s email obtained by The Post.

“We are seeking volunteers to assist with vetting and compiling [a] website list so books can be returned to classroom libraries,” Saunders wrote.


The district declined to comment on Saunders’s email or to answer a question about when school officials might complete their reconsideration of classroom library books.
In Duval County, the district published a brief blog post on Jan. 23 announcing that, after “recent training and direction from the state, Duval County Public schools will now conduct a formal review of classroom libraries.”
Two days later, the district shared with staffers a private, unlisted YouTube video titled “Classroom Libraries.” In the seven-minute video, obtained by The Post, Chief Academic Officer Paula Renfro announced that “classroom libraries will be temporarily reduced to only include ... books that have been approved by certified media specialists and books on the state-approved” list.

“In the meantime, books not on the district-approved list or not approved by a certified media specialist need to be covered or stored and paused for student use,” Renfro said. “As a reminder, though, this is temporary.”


She said that school officials are working to get classroom books “back to students’ hands as quickly as possible,” and that the district is considering giving teachers free time to vet books, as well as reemploying retired school library media specialists to help with the process.
Manatee Education Association President Pat Barber said in an interview that she has received many confused and concerned questions from teacher members about the district’s new policy on classroom libraries. She said educators are “distressed” by the idea of possibly receiving a third-degree felony conviction for simply providing books to children, which they used to view as part of their jobs.

“And if they are required to vet all the books in their classroom libraries, where the time will come from?” Barber said. “We’re talking about, for some people, thousands of books because they have developed these libraries over years.”
Although teachers in Manatee and Duval have aired their frustration in private social media posts, employees in both districts declined interview requests, citing school policies and fear of losing their jobs.
“I have over 800 books so it’s been a huge mess,” wrote one in a text message provided to The Post by Masferrer. “The kids don’t understand it’s just so sad.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educ...op-woke-manatee-county-duval-county-desantis/
What 1st Amendment violation? The state is simply telling teachers what they can teach in a public school in Florida. They are not saying what a teacher can say or do in their private lives, just what they can present in the classroom.
 
What 1st Amendment violation? The state is simply telling teachers what they can teach in a public school in Florida. They are not saying what a teacher can say or do in their private lives, just what they can present in the classroom.
They are threatening to arrest people who don't do what they say. That's far different than just setting up expectations for employment.
 
Students arrived in some Florida public school classrooms this month to find their teachers’ bookshelves wrapped in paper — or entirely barren of books — after district officials launched a review of the texts’ appropriateness under a new state law.

School officials in at least two counties, Manatee and Duval, have directed teachers this month to remove or wrap up their classroom libraries, according to records obtained by The Washington Post. The removals come in response to fresh guidance issued by the Florida Department of Education in mid-January, after the State Board of Education ruled that a law restricting the books a district may possess applies not only to schoolwide libraries but to teachers’ classroom collections, too.

House Bill 1467, which took effect as law in July, mandates that schools’ books be age-appropriate, free from pornography and “suited to student needs.” Books must be approved by a qualified school media specialist, who must undergo a state retraining on book collection. The Education Department did not publish that training until January, leaving school librarians across Florida unable to order books for more than a year.






Breaking the law is a third-degree felony, meaning that a teacher could face up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine for displaying or giving students a disallowed book.
Students want new books. Thanks to restrictions, librarians can’t buy them.
The efforts to conceal titles in Manatee and Duval have stirred outrage from educators and parents, many of whom shared images of bare wooden shelves or books veiled behind sheets of colored paper. Teachers wrote in Facebook posts and text messages that they are angry and disheartened. District officials in both counties have emphasized that the removals are temporary and will last only until staff can determine whether the titles meet the standards imposed by Florida law.
Michelle Jarrett, president of the Florida Association of Supervisors of Media, which assists school library administrators and programs statewide, said that “closing and covering up classroom libraries does nothing to ensure Florida’s students remain on track for reading success.”



And Marie Masferrer, a board member of the Florida Association for Media in Education and a school librarian who used to work in the Manatee County system and remains in close touch with former colleagues in that district, said they have told her that students are struggling.
At one school, “the kids began crying and writing letters to the principal, saying, ‘Please don’t take my books, please don’t do this,’” Masferrer said.
A spokesman for the School District of Manatee County said in a statement Monday that the district “is abiding by all applicable laws and statutes of the state of Florida, and adhering to the guidance of the Florida Department of Education.”

A spokeswoman for Duval County Public Schools wrote in a statement Monday that “we are taking the steps required to comply with Florida law,” adding that “there are almost 800 titles currently approved, and the list grows each day as books are reviewed.”


The department’s new rule, published and approved Jan. 18, “clarifies that library materials, including classroom libraries, must be approved and selected by a media specialist.” This goes against precedent: Classroom libraries have historically been overseen by no one but teachers, who simply selected and stocked books they believed might be intriguing to students. Often, teachers bought these texts with their own money or by fundraising online.
During a televised hearing before the Florida House Education Quality Subcommittee on Jan. 25, Education Department Chancellor Paul Burns was asked by Rep. Christopher Benjamin (D-Miami Gardens) whether the department’s guidance and training on book collection could yield “unintended consequences.”

Burns said he was unaware of any, but “if there’s any changes that need to be made ... we’re certainly open to that.” The Florida Education Department did not respond to questions, including one about whether the latest developments might constitute unintended consequences.


End of carousel
Manatee County’s January directive, obtained by The Post, says teachers who maintain elementary and secondary classroom libraries must “remove or cover all materials that have not been vetted” in accordance with state law. Going forward, any classroom library books must be “reviewed by a media specialist using the FDOE guidelines” before they are “presented and approved” at a special school meeting and finally “signed off by the principal.”
When one teacher emailed Manatee Superintendent Cynthia Saunders with questions and concerns about the directive, Saunders replied that violating the state law on book collection amounts to “a felony of the third degree,” according to a copy of the superintendent’s email obtained by The Post.

“We are seeking volunteers to assist with vetting and compiling [a] website list so books can be returned to classroom libraries,” Saunders wrote.


The district declined to comment on Saunders’s email or to answer a question about when school officials might complete their reconsideration of classroom library books.
In Duval County, the district published a brief blog post on Jan. 23 announcing that, after “recent training and direction from the state, Duval County Public schools will now conduct a formal review of classroom libraries.”
Two days later, the district shared with staffers a private, unlisted YouTube video titled “Classroom Libraries.” In the seven-minute video, obtained by The Post, Chief Academic Officer Paula Renfro announced that “classroom libraries will be temporarily reduced to only include ... books that have been approved by certified media specialists and books on the state-approved” list.

“In the meantime, books not on the district-approved list or not approved by a certified media specialist need to be covered or stored and paused for student use,” Renfro said. “As a reminder, though, this is temporary.”


She said that school officials are working to get classroom books “back to students’ hands as quickly as possible,” and that the district is considering giving teachers free time to vet books, as well as reemploying retired school library media specialists to help with the process.
Manatee Education Association President Pat Barber said in an interview that she has received many confused and concerned questions from teacher members about the district’s new policy on classroom libraries. She said educators are “distressed” by the idea of possibly receiving a third-degree felony conviction for simply providing books to children, which they used to view as part of their jobs.

“And if they are required to vet all the books in their classroom libraries, where the time will come from?” Barber said. “We’re talking about, for some people, thousands of books because they have developed these libraries over years.”
Although teachers in Manatee and Duval have aired their frustration in private social media posts, employees in both districts declined interview requests, citing school policies and fear of losing their jobs.
“I have over 800 books so it’s been a huge mess,” wrote one in a text message provided to The Post by Masferrer. “The kids don’t understand it’s just so sad.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educ...op-woke-manatee-county-duval-county-desantis/
I like that someone who went to college and got a degree to become a media specialist is now going to have to do some crazy 2 week "re-training" by some insane MTG want of be explaining to them why The Scarlet Letter is banned but the Five Chinese Brothers is perfectly acceptable.
 
Florida sounds like a complete shitshow. Not surprised.
Yeah, that’s right. I’m in favor of us banning more people moving here. It would be awful for all those poor innocent Yankees and we should spare them the anguish of finding out how horrible things are.
I’m in Duval County and I don’t hear a peep about teachers afraid of violating state law, but then again Duval schools are so poor I doubt any kid knows what a book is.
 
2 superintendents misinterpreted the law. The media and Twitter jump on it. You guys cum all over the place blathering about it. Repeat.

This. Your silly asses are sitting in some frozen cornfield surrounded by hog pens and the usual link artist posts his/her/they far left scribbling pile of 💩.
FFS is it really this easy to just swallow whatever ciggy posts?
 
I like that someone who went to college and got a degree to become a media specialist is now going to have to do some crazy 2 week "re-training" by some insane MTG want of be explaining to them why The Scarlet Letter is banned but the Five Chinese Brothers is perfectly acceptable.

Now I KNOW you’ve been hacked.
“Want of be”?
Seriously?
 
Yeah, that’s right. I’m in favor of us banning more people moving here. It would be awful for all those poor innocent Yankees and we should spare them the anguish of finding out how horrible things are.
I’m in Duval County and I don’t hear a peep about teachers afraid of violating state law, but then again Duval schools are so poor I doubt any kid knows what a book is.
Maybe those schools should be funded correctly. God forbid we do that. Eff them poor kids, instead.
 
Now I KNOW you’ve been hacked.
“Want of be”?
Seriously?
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My local county school system just announced that, due to the new law, they're ending a program that's existed since at least back in my school days 40-50 years ago. The program provided students automatic access to the County's public libraries. In my day, it meant you didn't need to have a county-issued library card; you could use your school ID info to use the library facilities, check out books, etc. In more recent times, it allowed students to access library computers, databases, etc.
The school superintendent announced last week that they're ending the program, effective immediately, because the school system did not/could not control what a student could access through the county library.

I'll dig around & see if I can find a newspaper article about it.
 
My local county school system just announced that, due to the new law, they're ending a program that's existed since at least back in my school days 40-50 years ago. The program provided students automatic access to the County's public libraries. In my day, it meant you didn't need to have a county-issued library card; you could use your school ID info to use the library facilities, check out books, etc. In more recent times, it allowed students to access library computers, databases, etc.
The school superintendent announced last week that they're ending the program, effective immediately, because the school system did not/could not control what a student could access through the county library.

I'll dig around & see if I can find a newspaper article about it.
That won’t hold up and someone is trying to create an issue.
 
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That won’t hold up and someone is trying to create an issue.

If you knew anything about my home county, you would not think it was "someone trying to create an issue." Tbe county is completely unxer Republican control - every County Commissioner, every County elected office, all of the levislative delegation. Though the school board is officially a non-partisan office (under State law, though the gov wants to change that), all 5 are very closely tied to the Republican party. It is a very, very hard right county.
 
The guy screaming about this is behaving in a similar fashion as some of the same “educators” here in Duval County who get themselves on the local news and try mightily to speak with so much emotion and heartfelt concern for the kids. Tsk tsk.
As one who grew up in Florida I’m familiar with Manatee County politics and the whole Southwest Gulf Coast Counties, who with the exception of some small pockets are full of conservative Republican transplants - many of whom hail from the upper Midwest.
 
The guy screaming about this is behaving in a similar fashion as some of the same “educators” here in Duval County who get themselves on the local news and try mightily to speak with so much emotion and heartfelt concern for the kids. Tsk tsk.
As one who grew up in Florida I’m familiar with Manatee County politics and the whole Southwest Gulf Coast Counties, who with the exception of some small pockets are full of conservative Republican transplants - many of whom hail from the upper Midwest.
Were you born in Florida? I know you speak of Texas and Wisconsin of other places you lived.
 
The guy screaming about this is behaving in a similar fashion as some of the same “educators” here in Duval County who get themselves on the local news and try mightily to speak with so much emotion and heartfelt concern for the kids. Tsk tsk.
As one who grew up in Florida I’m familiar with Manatee County politics and the whole Southwest Gulf Coast Counties, who with the exception of some small pockets are full of conservative Republican transplants - many of whom hail from the upper Midwest.

What is your opinion of the situation the guy is screaming about?
 
That won’t hold up and someone is trying to create an issue.

I haven't found a newspaper article about it, but here's the exact verbiage of the email sent out from the school system:

Due to a recent State rule (6A-7.0715) that provides very specific definition of a school library, we are notifying parents that our school district will no longer provide families with direct access to Pasco County Libraries via myStudent, or automatically provide students with a Pasco County Public Library card. Because we don't control the access filters for the Pasco County Libraries, we are not able to align to the requirements in the rule referenced above.
Parents and students still have direct access to Pasco Schools library books and materials (unless parents opt out) and parents can easily arrange online access to Pasco County Libraries by establishing a Virtual Library Card through the County's library system.


The "someone who is trying to create an issue" would be the Superintendent of Schools, who is certainly no flaming liberal. He's been highly regarded by the State GOP & served in an appointed State cabinet position for two Republican governors (Crist & Scott), and led a couple of statewide election-related task forces under JEB! (he'd served as the County Supervisor of Elections for a long time prior to moving to the State cabinet office).
 
It is going to be very interesting if these types of laws come to Iowa. Even the way Floridas is written….I think you could make a challenge that teaching ANY book that has relationships in it (ex: a family) should now be banned.

It doesn’t surprise me that some teachers/districts are doing this…may be wanting to limit legal exposure?
 
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