Hillary becoming more like Nixon everyday!

[SIXERS24]

From the USATODAY:

The server fracas isn't Watergate, yet, but the Democratic front-runner is starting to sound a little like Richard Nixon.

Last month, famed Washington Post reporter andWatergate investigator Bob Woodward said that the email scandal engulfing former secretary of State Hillary Clinton “reminds me of the Nixon tapes: thousands of hours of secretly recorded conversations that Nixon thought were exclusively his."

Woodward’s impression is justified, and not just by the steady drip, drip of new secrets in the latest batch of Clinton emails released by the State Department on Monday. There is also a remarkable resonance between Nixon’s statements during the evolving Watergate crisis and Clinton’s public statements regarding her emails:

I want to get the facts out ...

Nixon: I want the public to learn the truth about Watergate and those guilty of any illegal actions brought to justice.
Clinton: I want it all out there.

...because they are on my side

Nixon: The facts will prove that the president is telling the truth.

Clinton: That does not change the facts, and no matter what anybody tries to say, thefacts are stubborn.

There has been unprecedented openness ...

Nixon: We have waived executive privilege on all individuals within the administration. It has been the greatest waiver of executive privilege in the whole history of this nation.

Clinton: I took the unprecedented step of asking that the State Department make all my work-related emails public.
... about things I didn't know ...

Nixon: I had no prior knowledge of the Watergate operation.

Clinton: I don't know how it works digitally at all.

... at least not at that time

Nixon: No one on the White House Staff, at the time (White House CounselJohn Dean) conducted the investigation … was involved or had knowledge of the Watergate matter.

Clinton: I never sent nor received any information that was classified at the time it was sent and received.

Petraeus prosecutor: Clinton has committed no crime


The last guy did it, too

Nixon: This kind of capability not only existed during the Johnson administration, it also existed in the Kennedy administration.

Clinton: Previous secretaries of state have said they did the same thing. ... I mean, Secretary Powell has admitted he did exactly the same thing. ... We both did the same thing.

And it was all legal ...

Nixon: As far as the tapes are concerned, rather than being in defiance of the law, I am in compliance with the law.

Clinton: What I did was legally permitted, number one, first and foremost.


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Second Half of Article :

…At least at that time

Nixon: The first operation, begun in 1969, was a program of wiretaps. All were legal, under the authorities then existing.

Clinton: The laws and regulations in effect when I was secretary of State allowed me to use my email for work. That is undisputed.

And now I am fully cooperating ...

Nixon: We have cooperated completely.

Clinton: We're fully cooperating with [the investigation].



... but I am still protecting my privacy

Nixon: Let me explain very carefully that the principle of confidentiality either exists or it does not exist.

Clinton: Look, my personal e-mails are my personal business. Right?

I alone can determine what will be made public

Nixon: I have spent many hours of my own time personally reviewing these materials and personally deciding questions of relevancy.

Clinton: Under the law that decision is made by the official. I was the official. I made those decisions.

But I have no idea how things were erased

Nixon: How (the 18 1/2 minute gap on one tape) was caused is still a mystery to meand, I think, to many of the experts as well.

Clinton: Like with a cloth or something?

And no, you can’t inspect the original

Nixon: We are standing firm on the proposition that we will not agree to the Senate committee's desire to have (the tapes).

Clinton: The server will remain private.

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Besides, it is someone else's fault

Nixon: The easiest course would be for me to blame those to whom I delegated the responsibility to run the campaign. But that would be a cowardly thing to do.

Clinton: I think there are disputes going on among agencies about what shoulda coulda woulda been done four, five, six years ago. That's something for them to work out.

Plus it’s a partisan witch hunt

Nixon: The Watergate issue has taken on overtones of a partisan political contest.

Clinton: So for the past eight years, Republicans and their allies have attacked President Obama with everything they’ve got. … But the real target isn’t me; it’s everything you and I believe in. … It’s not about emails or servers either. It’s about politics.

Clinton's shaky email defenses: Column












And the people will decide anyway

Nixon: I am confident that in those months ahead, the American people will come to realize that I have not violated the trust that they placed in me when they elected me as President of the United States.

Clinton: Now, with respect to any sort of future issues, look, I trust the American people to make their decisions about political and public matters.

Trust me

Nixon: This office is a sacred trust and I am determined to be worthy of that trust.

Clinton: People should and do trust me.

I wish I had done better

Nixon: I frankly wish we hadn't had a (taping) system at all, then I wouldn't have to answer this question.

Clinton: Looking back, it would've been better for me to use two separate phones and two email accounts. I thought using one device would be simpler, and obviously, it hasn't worked out that way.

James S. Robbins writes weekly for USA TODAY and is the author of The Real Custer: From Boy General to Tragic Hero.

 

[Huey Grey]

Jeb Bush had his own private server. Colin Powell used private emails. Republicans are getting desperate if this is their best ammunition against Hillary.

 

[JRHawk2003]

You really can't compare anyone to Nixon. A man totally devoid of ideology who was wrapped up in his paranoid delusional world with enemies hiding around every corner.

 

[Huey Grey]

But I'll bite and actually address the topic. Hillary's use of private emails was pretty standard at the time she was SOS. Moreover, it was perfectly legal. In other words, she was part of the norm. But Nixon's Watergate scandal wasn't the norm. Not only was the break-in illegal, but it was also highly unusual. That's why you can't compare the two. Apples to oranges.

 

[hawkeye54545]

Jeb Bush had his own private server. Colin Powell used private emails. Republicans are getting desperate if this is their best ammunition against Hillary.

Deflect, spin, rinse, repeat.
Deflect, spin, rinse, repeat.
Deflect, spin, rinse, repeat.

 

[Huey Grey]

Deflect, spin, rinse, repeat.
Deflect, spin, rinse, repeat.
Deflect, spin, rinse, repeat.

Too early for a real response?

 

[hawkeye54545]

Too early for a real response?

That if Jeb did this also it proves he is also unqualified to be president? OK that's fine I can agree with that.

The problem is your partisan blinders will never allow you to admit Hillary shouldn't be our nation's leader.

 

[Huey Grey]

That if Jeb did this also it proves he is also unqualified to be president? OK that's fine I can agree with that.

The problem is your partisan blinders will never allow you to admit Hillary shouldn't be our nation's leader.

What about Colin Powell? What about Marco Rubio? What about Scott Walker? The list goes on...My point is that using private emails seems to have been a normal thing back then. Therefore, the idea that what Hillary did was extraordinary is a contradiction in terms. How can something be extraordinary if a large portion of your peers are doing the same thing?

I'm not sure why some of you keep ignoring this point?

 

[unIowa]

Jeb Bush had his own private server. Colin Powell used private emails. Republicans are getting desperate if this is their best ammunition against Hillary.

I wonder what state secrets may have went through Jeb's email...maybe a secret off ramp reconstructing bid or filling pot holes contracts that had been put up for bid.

As for CP was his email use exclusive to is private account, was his departments IT department aware of his personal account so they could help in the safe-guarding of it, were his emails stored on his own private server that was located at an off-site unsecured govt location?

What I am saying is lets make sure we are comparing apples to apples here bc I don't think we are with these examples. AND if CP did do his business like Hillary and stepped outside of policy/regulations then he should absolutely be investigated.

 

[Huey Grey]

I wonder what state secrets may have went through Jeb's email...maybe a secret off ramp reconstructing bid or filling pot holes contracts that had been put up for bid.

As for CP was his email use exclusive to is private account, was his departments IT department aware of his personal account so they could help in the safe-guarding of it, were his emails stored on his own private server that was located at an off-site unsecured govt location?

What I am saying is lets make sure we are comparing apples to apples here bc I don't think we are with these examples. AND if CP did do his business like Hillary and stepped outside of policy/regulations then he should absolutely be investigated.

How is comparing one SOS with another SOS, both of which used private emails, not comparing apples to apples?

 

[unIowa]

How is comparing one SOS with another SOS, both of which used private emails, not comparing apples to apples?

Did you not understand what I wrote?

 

[Huey Grey]

Did you not understand what I wrote?

What part of Colin Powell using private emails do you not understand? What part of Colin Powell saying that he lost all of his State Department emails do you not understand? Why are you pretending that what Colin Powell did was drastically different?

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/colin-powell-hillary-clinton-email-state-department-115870

 

[TexMichFan]

You really can't compare anyone to Nixon. A man totally devoid of ideology who was wrapped up in his paranoid delusional world with enemies hiding around every corner.

I agree with your first sentence.

On you second one I changed "A man" to "A woman" and and it really sounds like Hillary.

 

[Huey Grey]

I agree with your first sentence.

On you second one I changed "A man" to "A woman" and and it really sounds like Hillary.

On the scandal front, it's ridiculous to claim Hillary is anything like Nixon. But I do agree with the enemy part. Hillary keeps a "Hit List" of enemies, for chrissake.

 

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One of the most serious potential breaches of national security identified so far by the intelligence community inside Hillary Rodham Clinton’s private emails involves the relaying of classified information concerning the movement of North Korean nuclear assets, which was obtained from spy satellites.

Game over for Hillary the FBI is going to take her down and yu know it!

 

[SIXERS24]

Nixon never ordered the break in he only covered it up.

Hillary ordered the private server the cover up and the cleaning of the server.

 

[Huey Grey]

Nixon never ordered the break in he only covered it up.

Hillary ordered the private server the cover up and the cleaning of the server.

You're aware that Bush did the same exact thing, right?

 

[JRHawk2003]

Nixon never ordered the break in he only covered it up.

Hillary ordered the private server the cover up and the cleaning of the server.

Ha...Nixon conducted a secret bombing of Cambodia for years, including having flight records falsified.

Nixon was in all the way on the break in. Read the recent book "One Man Against the World; The Tragedy of Richard Nixon"...Its truly incredible what he did.

 

[bagdropper]

You really can't compare anyone to Nixon. A man totally devoid of ideology who was wrapped up in his paranoid delusional world with enemies hiding around every corner.

You can say the exact same thing about Hillary.

 

[N_fuego]

What about Colin Powell? What about Marco Rubio? What about Scott Walker? The list goes on...My point is that using private emails seems to have been a normal thing back then. Therefore, the idea that what Hillary did was extraordinary is a contradiction in terms. How can something be extraordinary if a large portion of your peers are doing the same thing?

I'm not sure why some of you keep ignoring this point?

We've covered this before, and you still are blabbing the same Clinton drivel. Here's a text of a conversation from last weeks Morning Joe episode.


MARK HALPERIN: Governor, you say other secretaries of state have done this. What other secretaries of state had private servers on which they conducted their official business?

RENDELL: They had separate e-mail accounts, Mark, and whatever --

HALPERIN: Yeah, but none of them had private servers. The answer is none. So let me ask you a different question. Right now you seem to be saying they're not handling it well. So forget what she did in the past. What are the specific steps regarding what she takes account -- responsibility for and any action she should take regarding the server and her e-mails? What specific steps should she take now?

RENDELL: I think she's taken the steps. She's turned over the server. She's turned over all the e-mails that are available. And I think she -- we're just going to have to wait till this plays out.




- See more at: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/mar...-not-saying-rendell-woke#sthash.5rfexREK.dpuf

 

[SIXERS24]

Bombing in Cambodia is similiar to Obama's Drone Warfare?

 

[Madman_1]

Truthfully, this is an insult to Nixon.

 

[86Hawkeye]

Hillary makes Nixon look like an amateur.

 

[IMCC965]

But I'll bite and actually address the topic. Hillary's use of private emails was pretty standard at the time she was SOS. Moreover, it was perfectly legal. In other words, she was part of the norm. But Nixon's Watergate scandal wasn't the norm. Not only was the break-in illegal, but it was also highly unusual. That's why you can't compare the two. Apples to oranges.

I'll take Bob Woodwards analysis over yours.

 

[IMCC965]

Did you not understand what I wrote?

No. He didn't.

 

[N_fuego]

I'll take Bob Woodwards analysis over yours.

Bob Woodward, part of the vast right wing conspiracy.