Hint at next years lineup?

[yerpHAWK]

1. Christian Williams Backed up by Bohannon. It was big getting Williams a couple minutes, and I think he can maintain 30 minutes a game.
2. Jok backed up by Ellingson.

A lot of flexibility with 3 4 and 5, here's how I see it shaping up.

3. Baer backed up by Uhl. Uhl is the most versatile player, and can play the 3 as well as the 5.
4. Jones Backed up by Wagner. Yes, people are forgetting Jones could be huge next year.
5. Uhl backed up by Cook/Wagner. Cook does not need to start next year with what's in the front court. If he's the best option than start him, but the spot isn't given like Woodbury's, and that says more about how good the state of the team is, than it does for Cook.

Could see Fleming/Moss/Hutton transferring next year opening up a schollie for Baer. Not saying it will, or should happen, but just prior years, and the 2/3 Jam makes it harder.

 

[lovedwatchingLester]

I don't think jok starts at the 2 he is now a three and doubt he returns to that position, however lots of players will play up or down throughout the games next year . I like this interchangeable parts and doubt we will ever see again traditional point, 2 guard , small forward, power forward, or center again. Now it is all about match ups and creating mismatches, which the Hawks are embracing with the athletes they are recruiting that can and do play multiple positions. This is one of the best reasons for redshirting. Yes in Moss's case, as well as Baer last year there is a need to build strength and conditioning but also to understand multiple positions on both offense and defense, like Hutton who may at times play the 2-4 . With a year in the system next year they should be able to start full out working on the nuances and team scouting. I like the way this program has developed and see growth continuing with great things to come, that said, here is the starting lineup for next season but I'm only about 70/80% confident at this point in my prediction?
Williams
Moss
Jok
Jones/Cook if Jones can't go right off
Uhl
With Baer first off the bench
I expect big contributions from Wagner and Hutton, and either BE or Flemming or both and Bohannon backing up Williams if the stage isn't too big but I think he is going to be up to it.
Ok that leaves Kreiner, and Pemsyl , they could add much or need a red shirt, time will tell.
That's my prediction and that and $4.00 give or take will get me a grande vanilla latte at Starbucks.

 

[The Sleeping Dog]

Next season's starting line up will change quite a bit as the season progresses.

Start of the season will probably be CW, PJ, the Baer, Wagner, Uhl. By the end of the season I would not be at all surprised if we started three freshmen with Cook, Kriener and Bohannon Jok and Fleming.

Dale and Cordell are huge unknowables at this point. If Dale can make it back then Cordell may redshirt.

I share the Right Reverend's view that the Baer provides a real exotic off the bench, which poses some unique benefit to entering a game with the kind of ebb/flow cycle established. Then, McC opens the Baer cage and suddenly there's spindly white arms and legs flying around the ball, hitting threes and leaving opponents with a collective "WTF" facial expression. It could be a secret weapon.

 

[HellaHawk]

I'm not saying this is the starting lineup, but it could be a fun lineup:

Williams (6'7)
Jok (6'6)
Baer (6'7)
Jones (6'8)
Uhl (6'9)

This team could use its length to play really disruptive defense (mostly zone). And on the offensive side, each of these guys (sans Williams) is averaging better than 40% from three this season.

 

[hooper56]

I agree that next year's lineup may change quite a bit throughout the season as guys develop. I think guys like Moss and Cook could easily crack the starting lineup after a few games. If Jones is healthy (Fran said his knee is the best it has been since he got here) then he is a threat for major minutes because he can really fill it up. Very possible that Brady starts early on simply because he knows the system. As for the bigs it probably depends on who wants to rebound, because brother we are going to run next year! We will have a much different type of team next year that is for sure and it will be fun to watch. I also think you might see more pressing/trapping.

 

[CanadaHawk]

I agree that next year's lineup may change quite a bit throughout the season as guys develop. I think guys like Moss and Cook could easily crack the starting lineup after a few games. If Jones is healthy (Fran said his knee is the best it has been since he got here) then he is a threat for major minutes because he can really fill it up. Very possible that Brady starts early on simply because he knows the system. As for the bigs it probably depends on who wants to rebound, because brother we are going to run next year! We will have a much different type of team next year that is for sure and it will be fun to watch. I also think you might see more pressing/trapping.

Hooper, where did you read/hear the positive reviews on Jones' knee situation? I haven't heard anything.

After reading that article I quoted a few posts back, I have to think Hutton might figure in next year more than some think.

 

[hooper56]

Hooper, where did you read/hear the positive reviews on Jones' knee situation? I haven't heard anything.

After reading that article I quoted a few posts back, I have to think Hutton might figure in next year more than some think.

Canada it was either Fran's call in show or something I heard him say in person. I honestly don't recall. But I remember it because I was afraid Dale might be done and I was pleasantly surprised to hear the knee is going to be good.

 

[freemanbrenner]

Cook is a beast. Think he will be very good for Iowa. If he can guard Harry Giles well and Cody Riley( a five star in 2017) well, he shouldn't have trouble guarding good biga in the big ten. Has skill in the post and hit a couple turn around jumpers. Top 50 player.

 

[TKingpin]

Oh, Yeah! I think that Three-Quarters court press with this line-up would be seriously athletic and lethal. Serious wingspan everywhere when they fall back into a zone:
Williams (6'7)
Jok (6'6)
Baer (6'7)
Jones (6'8)
Uhl (6'9)
Nic Baer seems to be perfect for the point of that zone ... high Energy, long, Quick and good anticipation. The guys in the 2nd and 3rd line are the ones that need to anticipate and pick off the passes. Lots of athleticism here. Adding Cook, Wagner, Moss, Hutton, I wouldn't see a lot of drop-off.

The more I think about it, the more I think Bohanon and Pemsl could red-shirt. IIRC, Fran said that Fleming is a good enough ball-handler that he could be a back-up PG. Give Bohanon a year to get stronger and Pemsl one more year to heal that knee.

 

[ConiferHawk]

I think Cook starts from day 1

Why is a power forward that is averaging 11pts and 6 rebounds in high school thought to be a starter from day 1?

I know this isn't popular and he is ranked very high and he is a physical specimen, and his dunking looks great but....? Does he have that much better of competition in Misery or is his Coach not using him correctly?

Is he rated highly because of potential?

 

[Vbeachawk]

Jones will come off the bench a lot, along with Baer, if his knee can hold up. Cook could very well start, if he gets the system down like Wagner did. Eventually, I see the lineup being by conference time:

Williams, Moss, Jok, Uhl and Cook. Baer, Jones (if able), Wagner, Kreiner, Hutton, Fleming, Ellingson and Bohannon (by default) will also play. Pemsl may red shirt to help his knee get stronger.

Depending on how Williams and Moss develop by next season, this team could be really good. There is a lot of talent and potential on this team.

 

[SSG T]

Why is a power forward that is averaging 11pts and 6 rebounds in high school thought to be a starter from day 1?

I know this isn't popular and he is ranked very high and he is a physical specimen, and his dunking looks great but....? Does he have that much better of competition in Misery or is his Coach not using him correctly?

Is he rated highly because of potential?

First, he plays for a prep school that plays against some of the best teams/players in the country. Second, he has a teammate, Jayson Tatum that is a top five player in the country, and the offense runs through him. Third, HS stats, particularly given the competition he plays against, are a bad way to tell what kind of player he is.

Basically, he's highly rated because he's really good. I don't know that he'll start from day one, but it wouldn't surprise me if he cracks the starting lineup sometime next year. And, my opinion only, he'll be their best big at some point next season. And, also my opinion only, he has the talent to end up the best player of the Fran era. Doesn't guarantee he gets there, but he does have that kind of talent.

 

[freemanbrenner]

First, he plays for a prep school that plays against some of the best teams/players in the country. Second, he has a teammate, Jayson Tatum that is a top five player in the country, and the offense runs through him. Third, HS stats, particularly given the competition he plays against, are a bad way to tell what kind of player he is.

Basically, he's highly rated because he's really good. I don't know that he'll start from day one, but it wouldn't surprise me if he cracks the starting lineup sometime next year. And, my opinion only, he'll be their best big at some point next season. And, also my opinion only, he has the talent to end up the best player of the Fran era. Doesn't guarantee he gets there, but he does have that kind of talent.

Bingo. If Jayson Tatum were at Duke right now, he would be their best player. He's really good. I would be really surprised if he does not start.

 

[revkev73]

As Fran moves this team to an even more fast paced, run and gun, lane filling, trapping machine...it will bode well for keeping 10 top players happy. This type of play is highly effective and confusing for many teams to match... The system is also very exhausting to the team trying to inflict exhaustion on the opponent. Iowa will need at least 10 athletic, mobile, long guys every game to make it work. More players will be happy and content...subs will get nearly as many minutes as the starters...even the starters will feel relieved when talent comes off the bench for relief...because they will need longer periods of rest.

Next year there will be battles of attrition...Iowa's waves of mobile and long players will keep the pressure on until capitulation.

This type of game...btw...is fun to watch.

Iowa could be better next year...yes...they could be.

 

[HawkLogic]

As Fran moves this team to an even more fast paced, run and gun, lane filling, trapping machine...it will bode well for keeping 10 top players happy. This type of play is highly effective and confusing for many teams to match... The system is also very exhausting to the team trying to inflict exhaustion on the opponent. Iowa will need at least 10 athletic, mobile, long guys every game to make it work. More players will be happy and content...subs will get nearly as many minutes as the starters...even the starters will feel relieved when talent comes off the bench for relief...because they will need longer periods of rest.

Next year there will be battles of attrition...Iowa's waves of mobile and long players will keep the pressure on until capitulation.

This type of game...btw...is fun to watch.

Iowa could be better next year...yes...they could be.

Going 10 deep is tough to do and be good. Fran tried that a couple years ago with the wholesale lineup change out of 5 guys...guys like Ogelsby, Clemmons, McCabe were not as good as the other 7 guys.

I think what Fran is doing this year is smarter. Play your starters more, play your subs strategically.

Next year we are not going to be strong at PG. Williams has length, but is not a shooter. Bohannon is a shooter, not super athletic and will be Freshman. The combo is complete, but individually each missing key part of their game. Would be nice to have a really quick more traditional PG on the roster next year with experience.

 

[cleotishaywood]

Been used to seeing Mike G, Woody, Sapp and Uthoff for so long it's going to be a real new look team next year.

 

[Jim4edwards]

I don't think Cook starts right out the gates. He may make it into the starting rotation before the season ends but imo only if the initial starting lineup of non-freshman struggles, which may happen. As far as I think who starts out the gates? It' s tough. Does Fran go with three forwards and start Hutton or Baer at the 3 with Jok at the 2? Or does he go with three guards and start Jok or Moss at the 3 and Ellingson, Fleming(or Jok) at the 2? Can Uhl or Wagner play the 3? Maybe in certain matchups but not starting imo. A fun lineup would be Bohannon, Jok, and Williams playing at the same time every in a small lineup, presuming Bohannon is ready.

 

[The Sleeping Dog]

Hawk Logic makes a good point. The starters start for a reason. With a few exceptions involving a temporary tactical advantage or fouls and injuries the starters should play most of the time, certainly more than 20-25 minutes. A team has a problem if its trying to find playing time for someone.

 

[Mohawkeye]

Canada it was either Fran's call in show or something I heard him say in person. I honestly don't recall. But I remember it because I was afraid Dale might be done and I was pleasantly surprised to hear the knee is going to be good.

Good to hear, I feared Jones might be done. He gives us another 3 point shooter that we will need with Utoff gone. I agree, next years team will be quite different. Probably the purest Fran team we've had. Fast paced, lots of threes and a healthy dose of 3/4 court press.