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How would you fix the immigration issue at the southern border?

Are you going to take their place? How about you and every other tough talker sign up with the CBP and get a little trigger time in? It isn't like you have a career or family to leave behind when you report to Brownsville.
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Are you going to take their place? How about you and every other tough talker sign up with the CBP and get a little trigger time in? It isn't like you have a career or family to leave behind when you report to Brownsville.
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Your boy Biden has them processing paperwork and waving them in. Why would I want to an instrument to that?
 
In my close it all down to begin with plan there would be 24-7 coverage of the border and no one is getting across from california to east texas. We would have all kinds of people guarding the border.

We had 25 million people in uniform in WW2 so pay some national guards to come down, active duty military, etc people in uniform to help local law enforcement and border patrol.

The navy would be there with marines to have boats up and down the rio grande. They would ferry people right back to Mexico. What is Mexico going to do about it anyway?

Then slowly open a small number of site entry ways to let a controlled number of people in.

Trump is a dick head saying he had a good border and even more of a dick head with dick head speaker johnson for blocking passage of the Lankford bill.
The US never had 25 million people in uniform.
Who is paying for putting all the men and women into uniform to pay for your plan? Let's pretend you could actually provide enough incentives to get those people into uniform, what would it do to the US economy. Forget the lack of unskilled labor provided by undocumented workers, what about taking so many people out of the labor force?
 
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Your boy Biden has them processing paperwork and waving them in. Why would I want to an instrument to that?
We aren't talking about under Biden. Honestly, you seem like the type that would leave your current life of low wage drudgery for the inflated sense of authority you can get shoving women and kids around while stroking your Glock.
 
Deport, deport, deport and deport. Then deport more.

Pass legislation that makes it illegal for any private or government entity to fund, aid or abet illegal crossers.

Pass legislation severely restricting asylum seekers.

Stop all aid to any country that is complicit in the flow of migration.

Militarize the southern border and set up incarceration camps similar to Maricopa County.
Stop allowing Big Ag to hire illegal immigrants which they continue to do as they pay off the corrupt jokes like a Reynolds.
 
I would jail the people who hire illegal immigrants. Make them lose their businesses and their homes. It would dry up pretty quick imo.
 
National guard patrol border.

Massive fines for people hiring illegals, with whistleblower awards.
 
Maybe designate the cartels as terrorist groups and unleash the military on those horrible fvcks. Them maybe people would want to stay in Mexico.
 
I'd have armed guards and shoot people that cross illegally only takes a couple to send the message... if you want to come, file your paperwork, wait your turn, and use the door.

This coming from the guy that said:

"I can't speak for Whiskey, but perhaps maybe the reason he and others are rooting for a political motive, is because he and others have been labeled MAGA extremists, nazis, racists, insurrectionists, traitors, bigots, among other things simply because they thought Trump did a good job"

Poor MAGA extremists. You're just so misunderstood!
 
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First off, I have always been a liberal or progressive or whatever you want to call it, some might say I am for good social programs, especially with all the wealth we have in this country.

So with that knowledge my solution to what everyone argues about concerning the souther border is to use a very reductionist technique to solving the problem. Reductionism in various disciplines is to take complex situations and problems and reduce their complexity.

If I had the power backing of those in charge I would mobilize the national guard, military, and the border states with Border Patrol and other entities to TOTALLY CLOSE DOWN the border except for necessary business trade. Necessary is defined as perishable foods and crops, emergencies, and normal US passport citizen travel. But no non-US citizen entry. This stops the problem that people are bitching about. Non-US citizens hopping walls and swimming rivers etc would be immediately turned back.

We would have plans in place then to very soon start opening certain spots to process immigration entry.

I would reduce the problem to ZERO and then slowing increase entry to worker visa and asylum levels that can be processed in real time. This should satisfy most all rational american citizens except those crazies on both ends of the spectrum.

How would you solve the problem.
Massive investigation, prosecutions, huge fines and jail time for employers who hire undocumented immigrants to start... the results will tell us how much (or little) we dislike illegal immigration.
 
Immigration and the border are both fine. Kamala and the Democrats have a handle on the it. I don’t understand why we are searching for solutions to a problem that doesn’t exist.
 
Mandatory E-verify

Reform and expand work visa programs

End birthright citizenship
Then Trump is the guy:


TL;DR Summary:


When Donald Trump took office in 2017, he introduced a controversial executive order banning travel from Muslim-majority countries, which led to chaos and legal battles. If he wins the upcoming election, he plans to end birthright citizenship via an executive order, which would prevent children born to undocumented parents from becoming U.S. citizens. This idea challenges the 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship to anyone born in the U.S., and would likely face significant legal hurdles. Trump’s plan includes addressing "birth tourism" and would require one parent to be a citizen or legal resident for the child to receive citizenship. Critics argue that this proposal is a misinterpretation of the Constitution and would face immediate litigation if enacted. The proposal would also impact the way Social Security numbers and passports are issued.
 
I would cut all enticements - free food, free housing, free education, free health care. Next, I would employ every single one that is rounded up to be immediately shipped back across the border. Last of all, I would severely penalize all US citizens that hire them. That should get the job done. They can come in, just do it legally.
 
Then Trump is the guy:


TL;DR Summary:


When Donald Trump took office in 2017, he introduced a controversial executive order banning travel from Muslim-majority countries, which led to chaos and legal battles. If he wins the upcoming election, he plans to end birthright citizenship via an executive order, which would prevent children born to undocumented parents from becoming U.S. citizens. This idea challenges the 14th Amendment, which guarantees citizenship to anyone born in the U.S., and would likely face significant legal hurdles. Trump’s plan includes addressing "birth tourism" and would require one parent to be a citizen or legal resident for the child to receive citizenship. Critics argue that this proposal is a misinterpretation of the Constitution and would face immediate litigation if enacted. The proposal would also impact the way Social Security numbers and passports are issued.
Retroactive? Might be an easy way to get out of his pre-nup.
 
I would cut all enticements - free food, free housing, free education, free health care. Next, I would employ every single one that is rounded up to be immediately shipped back across the border. Last of all, I would severely penalize all US citizens that hire them. That should get the job done. They can come in, just do it legally.
The CBP is hiring. Do your part.
 
So, you won’t work for Donald Trump?
I don't care for him personally. I think he is a bit of a turd. I did like most of his policies. One thing he is not and that is stupid. You don't have the massive success in life and be stupid at the same time. I'm sure your success in life is quite pale compared to his. Your moron costs the average family an additional $1100 a month to survive. I'll stay away from your choices and their idiotic policies.
 
I have a good friend who has 2 sons in the national guard. He's said if his sons are called up to round up women and kids they are out as soon as they meet the terms of their enlistment. CBP is already understaffed because the job is hard, and requires you to sit in remote, hot parts of the country. Who do you think is going to run and set up all the camps? Do you think recruitment in the military will be adversely affected if the commercials feature men and women rounding up illegals? How are you funding your mass deportation campaign? Will you be willing to show your papers at checkpoints?
Well........we do have a VP candidate who deserted/bailed on his brothers when deployment was imminent.......so cool!!
 
I did like most of his policies

This is always their fallback. Such a dumb argument. I don't like him and he's pretty much a POS, multiple felon, convicted of sexual assault, adulterer, grifter, and the list goes on. But hey! I paid $.34 less per gallon of gas, so he's my guy. How f'ing dumb are these people? That's a rhetorical question, nevermind.
 
I don't care for him personally. I think he is a bit of a turd. I did like most of his policies. One thing he is not and that is stupid. You don't have the massive success in life and be stupid at the same time. I'm sure your success in life is quite pale compared to his. Your moron costs the average family an additional $1100 a month to survive. I'll stay away from your choices and their idiotic policies.
Not sure about stupid. Trump was sent to military school and Penn for a reason, and his sister admits she did his homework for him. He is most likely a dummy.
I guess he’s got me when it comes to turning a $400 million inheritance into $500 million in civil liabilities, some money pit golf courses, and felony convictions. Honestly, I probably have access to more cash than he does.
 
I'm an accountant. I need facts and numbers.

1. How many illegals are in the country today? How many were added to that total in the last year?

2. How many got in by sneaking across the border?

3. How many got in through a proper entry point and are awaiting trial?

4. What is the amount of cash or free-stuff that an illegal gets?


Here is ONE article and I won't speak to it's credibility.


It claims that there are about the same number of illegals living in the country as there were in 2016. About 11.5 million

Another article that basically agreed with that one says the illegal population in 2000 was 8.5 million. So an increase of 3.5 million in 24 years.

No one talked about illegal immigration until Trump came along - now it's a crisis.

Just what are the facts?
 
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There isn't a huge difference now than 10-20 years ago. It's a little more, but nothing wild like MAGA makes it out to be. The difference is they are coming from mostly central/south America vs Mexico. Why? Instability, crime, lack of jobs. Mexico has stability for the most part and jobs. Put some manufacturing at low cost in a few of these places instead of Vietnam and China and you'd likely see the number decrease over the next 5 years.

I agree that they should apply in their country, but the system has to improve to allow that. As mentioned, they likely get frustrated and just come because they have nothing to lose. You also have to have employers here in the US face real consequences... they are typically the ones complaining loudest while hiring the illegals behind closed doors.

But, if we are all honest about this... nothing has been done in 40+ years so they aren't in a rush to solve this. It's politics.
 
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Not sure about stupid. Trump was sent to military school and Penn for a reason, and his sister admits she did his homework for him. He is most likely a dummy.
I guess he’s got me when it comes to turning a $400 million inheritance into $500 million in civil liabilities, some money pit golf courses, and felony convictions. Honestly, I probably have access to more cash than he does.
I seriously doubt your money claim. Oh well.

Couldn't help but notice how you dodged this statement - "Your moron costs the average family an additional $1100 a month to survive. I'll stay away from your choices and their idiotic policies. "
 
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First off, I have always been a liberal or progressive or whatever you want to call it, some might say I am for good social programs, especially with all the wealth we have in this country.

So with that knowledge my solution to what everyone argues about concerning the souther border is to use a very reductionist technique to solving the problem. Reductionism in various disciplines is to take complex situations and problems and reduce their complexity.

If I had the power backing of those in charge I would mobilize the national guard, military, and the border states with Border Patrol and other entities to TOTALLY CLOSE DOWN the border except for necessary business trade. Necessary is defined as perishable foods and crops, emergencies, and normal US passport citizen travel. But no non-US citizen entry. This stops the problem that people are bitching about. Non-US citizens hopping walls and swimming rivers etc would be immediately turned back.

We would have plans in place then to very soon start opening certain spots to process immigration entry.

I would reduce the problem to ZERO and then slowing increase entry to worker visa and asylum levels that can be processed in real time. This should satisfy most all rational american citizens except those crazies on both ends of the spectrum.

How would you solve the problem.
 
This is always their fallback. Such a dumb argument. I don't like him and he's pretty much a POS, multiple felon, convicted of sexual assault, adulterer, grifter, and the list goes on. But hey! I paid $.34 less per gallon of gas, so he's my guy. How f'ing dumb are these people? That's a rhetorical question, nevermind.
Most of what you said about him is false. The claim of being a felon is a complete joke and a black eye for the NY justice system. How nice of you to downplay inflation. The average American family now pays an additional $1100 more every month just to maintain same standard of living. You chose to downplay it as only "$.34 less per gallon". Are you lacking integrity?
 
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