Hunter D.

[dean_oliver222]

@dean_oliver222 always has terrible takes so him saying no way Iowa lands Dickinson bodes well for the Hawks.

I've never seen you even attempt to challenge a single one of my "terrible takes." Including this one. Which tells me your "takes" would be even worse.

But by all means Tough Guy, keep talking yourself into a DeMatha kid coming to Iowa. Since I'm sure you grew up going to high school and college with kids exactly like that. All of whom thought the state of Iowa was a raging metropolis... All the bedrooms of children in Towson, MD circa 2001 had posters of Hawkeye basketball players!

F*ckin dbag.

 

[DewHawk]

I lived in Maryland and worked near DC for 12 years and it definitely is much different than Iowa. I retired early and moved back to Iowa if that means anything.

IMO, I do not see Dickenson having much interest in Iowa given current roster and continued men's struggles, $'s, and to be a legitimate threat to win the conference let alone be a national contender. JMO

 

[HawkHoops80]

I've never seen you even attempt to challenge a single one of my "terrible takes." Including this one. Which tells me your "takes" would be even worse.

But by all means Tough Guy, keep talking yourself into a DeMatha kid coming to Iowa. Since I'm sure you grew up going to high school and college with kids exactly like that. All of whom thought the state of Iowa was a raging metropolis... All the bedrooms of children in Towson, MD circa 2001 had posters of Hawkeye basketball players!

F*ckin dbag.

Hunter is 22 years old, wants to find a way to make it to the NBA, is good friends with current and former Iowa players, and has visited Iowa City several times to play. This isn't some 17 year old high school kid that is only basing their opinions off of what their parents/peers think and probably assumes Iowa is nothing but farmland and hicks. Hunter is going to make a business decision one way or another--he's likely going to get bags of cash thrown at him to play for certain schools, but he also needs to find a coach that knows how to feature a dominant post player so he can hopefully play himself into the Garza-range of a late second round pick. I'm sure in his ideal world he finds a place with money & the system.

Ultimately it's likely a moot point. Like I said, there's a lot of Georgetown smoke around this and so I'm assuming that's where he ends up.

 

[HawkHoops80]

I lived in Maryland and worked near DC for 12 years and it definitely is much different than Iowa. I retired early and moved back to Iowa if that means anything.

IMO, I do not see Dickenson having much interest in Iowa given current roster and continued men's struggles, $'s, and to be a legitimate threat to win the conference let alone be a national contender. JMO

Some are going to disagree with me, but Iowa's roster is exactly what Dickinson needs. Dominant post players need to be surrounded by shooters to prevent double teams. A lineup of Perkins, Dix, Patrick, and Payton is kind of ideal. Defensively, that lineup isn't the greatest. But it'd be similar to the JBo, Frederick, Weiskamp, Connor, Garza style of team--except you actually have a dribble drive threats off of ball pick n rolls with Perkins and to some extent Patrick.

 

[dean_oliver222]

Hunter is 22 years old, wants to find a way to make it to the NBA, is good friends with current and former Iowa players, and has visited Iowa City several times to play. This isn't some 17 year old high school kid that is only basing their opinions off of what their parents/peers think and probably assumes Iowa is nothing but farmland and hicks. Hunter is going to make a business decision one way or another--he's likely going to get bags of cash thrown at him to play for certain schools, but he also needs to find a coach that knows how to feature a dominant post player so he can hopefully play himself into the Garza-range of a late second round pick. I'm sure in his ideal world he finds a place with money & the system.

Ultimately it's likely a moot point. Like I said, there's a lot of Georgetown smoke around this and so I'm assuming that's where he ends up.

Decent points... but tough for anyone to truly appreciate the massive differences unless you've experienced both cultures. There's literally ZERO respect by that type toward Iowa. Particularly the fratty, elitist type that Dickinson exudes. They all think it's flyover country man. I'll be the first to admit if I'm proven wrong, but the stereotype is so powerful out there and it's not changing.

 

[Ronman]

We didn't want him anyway!

 

[Hawkeyes19]

Are he and Cade buddies??

Eskimo brothers.

 

[blubberhawk]

Decent points... but tough for anyone to truly appreciate the massive differences unless you've experienced both cultures. There's literally ZERO respect by that type toward Iowa. Particularly the fratty, elitist type that Dickinson exudes. They all think it's flyover country man. I'll be the first to admit if I'm proven wrong, but the stereotype is so powerful out there and it's not changing.

Dickinson has been playing/living out here in "Flyover Country" for 4 years. He has seen plenty of the Midwest.
Maybe he likes it out here? One common trait I have noticed in East and West Coast elitists is stupidity.
Prime example: They choose to live in shitty little houses and pay astronomical prices to live in them. $1.5 million dollars for houses that would sell for a couple hundred thousand here in the Midwest. Go to Zillow and see how they could live in the Midwest. High taxes, expensive gas, crime rates off the charts. Certainly a lot for the Coastal "elites" to be snooty about. Those shitholes aren't even fun to visit anymore, much less live there.

 

[littlez]

Dickinson has been playing/living out here in "Flyover Country" for 4 years. He has seen plenty of the Midwest.
Maybe he likes it out here? One common trait I have noticed in East and West Coast elitists is stupidity.
Prime example: They choose to live in shitty little houses and pay astronomical prices to live in them. $1.5 million dollars for houses that would sell for a couple hundred thousand here in the Midwest. Go to Zillow and see how they could live in the Midwest. High taxes, expensive gas, crime rates off the charts. Certainly a lot for the Coastal "elites" to be snooty about. Those shitholes aren't even fun to visit anymore, much less live there.

Yep, that’s exactly what a college kid is thinking about. JFC.

 

[dean_oliver222]

Dickinson has been playing/living out here in "Flyover Country" for 4 years. He has seen plenty of the Midwest.
Maybe he likes it out here? One common trait I have noticed in East and West Coast elitists is stupidity.
Prime example: They choose to live in shitty little houses and pay astronomical prices to live in them. $1.5 million dollars for houses that would sell for a couple hundred thousand here in the Midwest. Go to Zillow and see how they could live in the Midwest. High taxes, expensive gas, crime rates off the charts. Certainly a lot for the Coastal "elites" to be snooty about. Those shitholes aren't even fun to visit anymore, much less live there.

Agree with most of what u said lol, yes the Coastal Elites are awful. I grew up w them, and Dickinson def gives off those vibes.

I would consider UofMich an extension of Coastal elitism tho. It's not necessarily always geographical. Snooty ass university that likely attracts mostly Coastal students. Just like Grinnell College or the UI Writer's Workshop.

 

[RocknRollface]

Garza felt loyalty to Iowa for being the first major program to offer him. There's no such similar relationship for Dickinson... Garza's options out of high school were also somewhat limited. Whereas Dickinson is arguably the biggest name in the history of the portal.

I'm assuming I'm the only one on here who grew up in both Maryland and Iowa. I know the type, and there's literally no way a White kid from DeMatha is coming to Iowa. Just stating the facts based on my own unique experiences. Just don't want any Iowa fans getting too excited and talking themselves into this.

Garza was a 4* recruit.

He had an offer from Rick Patino. Not exactly limited.

I highly doubt HD considers any big10 schools unless he really wants to stick it to Howard.

But what in the world would being specifically white have to do with anything?

 

[RocknRollface]

Hunter is 22 years old, wants to find a way to make it to the NBA, is good friends with current and former Iowa players, and has visited Iowa City several times to play. This isn't some 17 year old high school kid that is only basing their opinions off of what their parents/peers think and probably assumes Iowa is nothing but farmland and hicks. Hunter is going to make a business decision one way or another--he's likely going to get bags of cash thrown at him to play for certain schools, but he also needs to find a coach that knows how to feature a dominant post player so he can hopefully play himself into the Garza-range of a late second round pick. I'm sure in his ideal world he finds a place with money & the system.

Ultimately it's likely a moot point. Like I said, there's a lot of Georgetown smoke around this and so I'm assuming that's where he ends up.

Hes going to have to improve his 3pt shooting quite a bit to be considered IMO.

Garza would not have been drafted without that.

 

[RocknRollface]

Decent points... but tough for anyone to truly appreciate the massive differences unless you've experienced both cultures. There's literally ZERO respect by that type toward Iowa. Particularly the fratty, elitist type that Dickinson exudes. They all think it's flyover country man. I'll be the first to admit if I'm proven wrong, but the stereotype is so powerful out there and it's not changing.

Of course east coast people view the midwest that way, but he's already been in the Midwest for 3 years so I'm sure he has enough first hand experience to know what it is and isn't.

 

[Bishop1971]

As poorly as Howard used him i personally would stay just to stick it to him. Hunter was used about as badly as he could be during the season.

 

[GunnerHawk]

@dean_oliver222 always has terrible takes so him saying no way Iowa lands Dickinson bodes well for the Hawks.

I agree, he'll end up out East.

 

[dean_oliver222]

Of course east coast people view the midwest that way, but he's already been in the Midwest for 3 years so I'm sure he has enough first hand experience to know what it is and isn't.

The term "Midwest" is not necessarily always geographic. It's a mindset. Ann Arbor is no different than New Haven or Brookline. And certainly miles away from anything in Iowa.

And being White does matter if u know the type. There's no way a fratty ass White boy from DeMatha gives Iowa a second glance. I spent my entire adolescence with kids just like that. They're a different breed man, just gotta trust me on this lol

 

[RocknRollface]

The term "Midwest" is not necessarily always geographic. It's a mindset. Ann Arbor is no different than New Haven or Brookline. And certainly miles away from anything in Iowa.

And being White does matter if u know the type. There's no way a fratty ass White boy from DeMatha gives Iowa a second glance. I spent my entire adolescence with kids just like that. They're a different breed man, just gotta trust me on this lol

So black people from dematha would be fine with Iowa? Im not following.

Dickson has been to every big ten town multiple times. Point is when you have experienced things first hand preconceived notions become mostly irrelevant.

Also. I in no way expect him to even consider Iowa so not arguing that.

 

[dean_oliver222]

So black people from dematha would be fine with Iowa? Im not following.

Dickson has been to every big ten town multiple times. Point is when you have experienced things first hand preconceived notions become mostly irrelevant.

Also. I in no way expect him to even consider Iowa so not arguing that.

I couldn't speak to any black youths from that area, bc I naturally didn't know as many. But I can confidently speak about the fratty ass White prep school type. Of which Dickinson is most certainly one. I can't tell u how many cow and farm jokes I heard after moving out there lol. They have no clue about us, might as well think we live on Neptune.

For those reasons, Dickinson to Iowa is 1000% never happening. I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong.

 

[RocknRollface]

I couldn't speak to any black youths from that area, bc I naturally didn't know as many. But I can confidently speak about the fratty ass White prep school type. Of which Dickinson is most certainly one. I can't tell u how many cow and farm jokes I heard after moving out there lol. They have no clue about us, might as we'll think we live on Neptune.

For those reasons, Dickinson to Iowa is 1000% never happening. I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong.

Those would be weird reasons to base a decision on.

Im guessing money, basketball success and family would be weighed more heavily.

 

[dean_oliver222]

Those would be weird reasons to base a decision on.

Im guessing money, basketball success and family would be weighed more heavily.

We're basically in agreement man. Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger lol. Those prep school types out there are just so insulated they have no clue what Iowa is all about.

 

[Birky]

I've never seen you even attempt to challenge a single one of my "terrible takes." Including this one. Which tells me your "takes" would be even worse.

But by all means Tough Guy, keep talking yourself into a DeMatha kid coming to Iowa. Since I'm sure you grew up going to high school and college with kids exactly like that. All of whom thought the state of Iowa was a raging metropolis... All the bedrooms of children in Towson, MD circa 2001 had posters of Hawkeye basketball players!

F*ckin dbag.

Iowa football has gotten DeMatha kids in the past.

 

[dean_oliver222]

Iowa football has gotten DeMatha kids in the past.

True. They've also gotten Georgetown Prep and Gilman kids in the past (mostly bc Kirk has local connections from being Ravens OC before Iowa). Again, the key here is demand. If you're an East Coast prep school kid whose only major offer is Iowa, then you're jumping at that regardless of the negative stereotypes. But if you're arguably the most coveted portal entrant in history, which HD very well may be, then the last place he looks is Iowa.

Again, I would love to be proven wrong. I love HD's game/attitude. But I'm prob the one dude on here who grew up in both cultures lol. And those m'fers out there have zero respect for us.

 

[Mohawkeye]

We're basically in agreement man. Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger lol. Those prep school types out there are just so insulated they have no clue what Iowa is all about.

I think you are overrestimating the Eastern effect. He’s an adult and will make a rational decision, no doubt. I get it if he wants to go home, but I also wouldn’t underestimate the chance to be the next Luka. No one would use him as well as Fran.

 

[dean_oliver222]

I think you are overrestimating the Eastern effect. He’s an adult and will make a rational decision, no doubt. I get it if he wants to go home, but I also wouldn’t underestimate the chance to be the next Luka. No one would use him as well as Fran.

Agree to disagree on the overall point. As stated on multiple occasions, I grew up w guys just like Dickinson. And Iowa might as well be Neptune. That's true across all age ranges as well.

I do disagree about this narrative that Fran is some sort of Post Whisperer a la Pete Newell. He's had one great center, and likely played only a minimal role in the kid's development. None of that is even on Dickinson's radar.

 

[HawkRugged17]

 

[InsaneHawkJJP]

I think you are overrestimating the Eastern effect. He’s an adult and will make a rational decision, no doubt. I get it if he wants to go home, but I also wouldn’t underestimate the chance to be the next Luka. No one would use him as well as Fran.

Is Luka the only big to ever have recent success? This argument doesn’t make sense to me.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

I am not following most of this east coast stuff. Hunter will go where he can get a lot of exposure showing what he can do. Iowa has had four consecutive All B1G, All American players, and Fran has demonstrated very clearly that he knows how to let the stars shine. I don't think he is likely to come to Iowa, but I don't think it will because he thinks Iowa is Moo U.

 

[WestCoastHawkI]

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I am not following most of this east coast stuff. Hunter will go where he can get a lot of exposure showing what he can do. Iowa has had four consecutive All B1G, All American players, and Fran has demonstrated very clearly that he knows how to let the stars shine. I don't think he is likely to come to Iowa, but I don't think it will because he thinks Iowa is Moo U.

And all of these all American, all big and NOPY has amounted to zero momentum when it comes to recruiting.

 

[Mohawkeye]

Is Luka the only big to ever have recent success? This argument doesn’t make sense to me.

If you don’t know why being the NPOY in 2021 would be a selling point then I don’t know how to explain it to you. Recency is important .

 

[ChiPackHawk]

True. They've also gotten Georgetown Prep and Gilman kids in the past (mostly bc Kirk has local connections from being Ravens OC before Iowa). Again, the key here is demand. If you're an East Coast prep school kid whose only major offer is Iowa, then you're jumping at that regardless of the negative stereotypes. But if you're arguably the most coveted portal entrant in history, which HD very well may be, then the last place he looks is Iowa.

Again, I would love to be proven wrong. I love HD's game/attitude. But I'm prob the one dude on here who grew up in both cultures lol. And those m'fers out there have zero respect for us.

Assuming what you are saying about being from that area is true, (and why wouldn't it be) I always find it amusing that people from somewhere else always think they know better than someone with first hand experience. In the Chicago burbs, that particular group you are referencing think they're slumin' it if they get into Illinois versus the east coast, minus Notre Dame or Michigan of course. Let alone Iowa. Didn't Risky Business teach anybody anything?

 

[littlez]

I'm going with Kansas. Self has always been good w/big men, and they have a ton of openings.

 

[HawkRugged17]

I'm going with Kansas. Self has always been good w/big men, and they have a ton of openings.

You are correct, sir.

 

[Franisdaman]

Kentucky (with no NIL guarantees) couldn't pay him the way Kansas will (they are making guarantees).

From yesterday afternoon:

 

[tumorboy]

Any estimate on how much he'll get from Kansas. A million maybe?

 

[Franisdaman]

Any estimate on how much he'll get from Kansas. A million maybe?

It's interesting, isn't it?

He wasn't making enough at Michigan.

Kentucky's offer was not good enough.

Kansas ended up offering the best compensation package (NIL money that was guaranteed).

Sounds like pay for play and that they are employees.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

Maybe it shouldn't, but this lowers my opinion of Hunter some. I always root against the blue bloods, who now get to incentivize coming to their school above the table.

 

[Ronman]

I thought Dickinson and the McCaffery boys were friends. He would flourish in Fran's system. C'mon Swarm...We just need one of these game changers to make a big difference.

 

[vgshwk]

Reason to hate him more now

 

[DewHawk]

Maybe it shouldn't, but this lowers my opinion of Hunter some. I always root against the blue bloods, who now get to incentivize coming to their school above the table.

I also root against the blue bloods unless it in some strange way helps Iowa.

 

[Fran-Con-2]

It's interesting, isn't it?

He wasn't making enough at Michigan.

Kentucky's offer was not good enough.

Kansas ended up offering the best compensation package (NIL money that was guaranteed).

Sounds like pay for play and that they are employees.

Definitely pay for play, but I dont agree with the last half. Professionals (NBA players) have contracts and face repercussions if they break their contract early.

College athletes face zero repercussion if they pack up and leave halfway through the season.

These aren't employees. These aren't college athletes. These are hired guns