I️ miss Tom Davis.

[Crazy Hawk]

Good post @hawksense .

The thing with McCaffery is he is a master rebuilder.....but has never done anything past the rebuilding phase.

 

[soybean]

Fans became complacent with Davis, didn't realize what they had and thought they deserved more,... At the time, Alford was the shiny new object on the scene, so we went for it, hook. line & sinker.....

Uh, there was this one guy who didn't.

 

[Scott559]

Uh, there was this one guy who didn't.

Make it two, I appreciated T.D., I also felt the Hawks got screwed a few times with their almost annual 8-9 seed in the tourney.

 

[Rifler]

Uh, there was this one guy who didn't.

I liked Davis a lot, but have to admit that at the time I thought the move to Alford looked like a good idea,... I always try to remember that bad thinking on my part. Keeps me somewhat grounded....

 

[iowa surfer]

I miss LUTE

Yes.

 

[Buddehawk]

Shame on you Bob....shame on you.

I'd take Tom Davis with Ravelings recruits

 

[Speedway1]

Do you remember how many people wanted Davis out? Bowlsby handled it poorly, but people were happy to have Davis out, and elated to have Alford in...

Strange times indeed.

I know some wanted him gone , but he was a great coach and a nicer guy. Hated the way he got run out. Dollar Bob at his best.

 

[Willin]

Graphic from last night's game: Iowa has finished in top half of Big 10 five straight years. Let that sink in before wishing for a coaching change.

 

[jimbob22]

126-104 in the Big Ten. He wasn’t 500 by the way.

The nostalgia for Davis is delusional.

Dr. Tom was 89-87 in the Big Ten after Raveling's recruits departed. Davis' team finished last in the Big Ten in 1993-94, his eighth season at Iowa. (McCaffery is now in his eighth.)

Davis was known as a lazy recruiter. A good recruiting trip for him was one that included a few rounds of golf. Losing Lafrentz to KU was unforgiveable. Maybe he was ungettable, given his father's affection for Roy. That begs the question: why didn't daddy like Davis' program? For another view, see Williams' memoir on the effort he put into recruiting Lafrentz.

Completely subjective, but I thought Davis' teams were painful to watch. A normal game against a top-tier Big Ten team went like this: The opponent goes up 20-25 points and loses interest, Davis keeps pressing with his first team, and the result is an 8-point loss.

The Doctor (I've always wondered why PhDs, particularly with one in education, use the "Dr.") is by all accounts a good guy. He was a mediocre coach at Iowa. Bowlsby, one of the smartest guys in college sports, recognized that.

Now, nostalgia for Ralph Miller I can understand.

 

[HawkRugged17]

 

[hawkland14]

What are @Crazy Hawk's assessment of the program currently?

 

[TRHawkeye145]

Still a program that hasn't made the sweet 16 under Fran. But I have hope this year!!

 

[szohn]

Hey! Me too!

nosht
our best coach ever ?

 

[HawkRugged17]

Here's a Tom Davis pass from today.

 

[twindman]

Speaking of substitution patterns - anyone notice in the first half we had Bohanan ( I think, it was a guard anyway) with JoeT, Nunge, Patrick, and KeMurray. 4 subs and 1 starter!! This crap needs to stop. Later, perhaps trying to send a message to the starters about crappy defense, he had Ulis and Perkins and one or 2 starting guards out there once.
We were lucky RU were 4/12 free throws!!!

 

[joelbc1]

Here's a Tom Davis pass from today.

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And then there was Ralph Miller, who was the best BB coach Iowa ever had.... and with him, if you threw a bounce pass, you watched the game sitting next to him on the bench! And that is not too far from the truth, pilgrim. Ralph’s practices were very quiet... the ball never bounced off the floor.

 

[Bravehawk56]

I miss LUTE

As well you should..

 

[papabeef]

The thing I have never understood about Fran was his subtitution philosophy. In the first half tonight, Bohannan hit two treys and another bucket, and Fran benches him.

As Johnny Orr famously said to assistant Jim Hallihan 30 years ago tonight when Hallihan said Lafester Rhodes needed a rest: "I don't care if he dies out there! He's got 30 effing points!!!!!"

he cant play the whole half . fran has to manage the whole game .

 

[papabeef]

Let the fact that Collins has built a better program at Northwestern, in less time than McCaffery has in his years at Iowa.

isnt this the first good year he has had at northwestern and it is not done yet .

 

[papabeef]

Yep. Total revisionist history. I’m sure there was a faction of fans that wanted him retained, but if so, they were awfully quiet back then. We rolled the dice with Alford and it failed. I’m just gonna skip the next hire but Fran deserves credit for bringing Iowa back from the depths, but his shortcomings were evident early on at Iowa. I never liked his sideline antics when he first got here and now it’s damn right embarrassing. Same with substitution patterns, use of timeouts, and basic basketball principles.

and yet he is a D1 head coach and you are not .

 

[papabeef]

I was happy with the Alford hire. I was happier to see him leave without the university having to buy out his contract.

alford was a hot coach at the time .

 

[AuroraHawk]

The Doctor (I've always wondered why PhDs, particularly with one in education, use the "Dr.") is by all accounts a good guy. He was a mediocre coach at Iowa. Bowlsby, one of the smartest guys in college sports, recognized that.

You're wondering why someone who earns a doctorate degree is referred to as a doctor?

 

[aurorabimmer]

And then there was Ralph Miller, who was the best BB coach Iowa ever had.... and with him, if you threw a bounce pass, you watched the game sitting next to him on the bench! And that is not too far from the truth, pilgrim. Ralph’s practices were very quiet... the ball never bounced off the floor.

Bucky O'Conner...two final fours and a championship game against San Francisco and Bill Russell.

 

[joelbc1]

You're wondering why someone who earns a doctorate degree is referred to as a doctor?

You think Dr. Tom calls Jill Biden “Dr.”?

 

[jimbob22]

You're wondering why someone who earns a doctorate degree is referred to as a doctor?

More precisely, why would someone with a PhD refer to himself or herself as 'doctor?' It's bush league. Maybe master carpenters should be called. 'Dr.'

 

[jimbob22]

You think Dr. Tom calls Jill Biden “Dr.”?

This is the title of 'Dr.' Jill's thesis: "Student Retention at the Community College Level: Meeting Students’ Needs.”

 

[joelbc1]

This is the title of 'Dr.' Jill's thesis: "Student Retention at the Community College Level: Meeting Students’ Needs.”

Yep....the old coach from my hometown (college) was a "Dr." also..../His thesis was "
Underhand Free Throw Shooting vs. Conventional Free Throw Shooting, Why Everyone Should Shoot Underhand"...
All his players (with one exception) shot their Free Throws underhanded....and they lead the conference in FT shooting for years.....I believe that "doctorate thesis"are quite specific in scope and research...They ain't novels or bestsellers.

 

[WorldSeriesChamps2015]

This is the title of 'Dr.' Jill's thesis: "Student Retention at the Community College Level: Meeting Students’ Needs.”

This is the title of your thesis:
“I am a complete and utter moron and I should never speak again”

 

[AuroraHawk]

More precisely, why would someone with a PhD refer to himself or herself as 'doctor?' It's bush league. Maybe master carpenters should be called. 'Dr.'

Master carpenters who have earned a doctorate degree certainly could be referred to as “doctor.”

 

[hawkeyeinmo]

Let the fact that Collins has built a better program at Northwestern, in less time than McCaffery has in his years at Iowa.

This post from 2017 didn’t age too well either. Since this post Collins has been below .500 3 straight seasons while Fran has won more than twice as many conference games.

 

[jimbob22]

Master carpenters who have earned a doctorate degree certainly could be referred to as “doctor.”

You didn't work in the fact that you have a law degree. Try harder. The only people who waste their time on a Ph.D in education are those whose employers pay them, by contract, extra for the degree, regardless of whether they are better educators. It's part of our wonderful education bureaucracy. Btw, do you think the 'doctors' in the education dept at the University of Phoenix refer to each other as 'Dr.?'

 

[AuroraHawk]

You didn't work in the fact that you have a law degree. Try harder. The only people who waste their time on a Ph.D in education are those whose employers pay them, by contract, extra for the degree, regardless of whether they are better educators. It's part of our wonderful education bureaucracy. Btw, do you think the 'doctors' in the education dept at the University of Phoenix refer to each other as 'Dr.?'

I'm not sure what my law degree has to do with anything. I suspect that you are hinting at the fact that I possess a doctorate level degree. I know some lawyers who like to be called "Dr. [INSERT NAME]." They are few and far between but they exist.

I don't sign my name with the title "Dr." and I don't end it with ", Esq." My good friends who are not fellow practitioners like to call me "Counselor" from time to time - as in "Counselor . . . would you like another Dragon's Milk?"

Never interacted with the folks at the University of Phoenix. So . . . prior to this post, I couldn't answer your question.As for how the PhDs at the University of Phoenix refer to one another, I really don't know and, honestly, I don't really care.

When I did a fair amount of medical negligence defense work, I interacted with medical doctors frequently in both professional and social settings. Guess what? When they are interacting with each other in social settings, they don't call each other by "doctor."
They use first names.

I run across a good number of people who possess doctorate degrees. My default is to address them as "Dr. [INSERT NAME]" until they tell me otherwise. He/she put in the time, they earned the degree, they possess the title.

Whether someone uses the title "Dr." seems to have become controversial only after Biden's election. I don't seem to recall any controversy to someone using that title when the folks at Fox, OAN or Newsmax would interview Dr. Sebastian Gorka. Maybe I missed that the interview took place after he performed life-saving surgery on a small child who had been brutally raped and beaten at a D.C. pizza parlor.

 

[WorldSeriesChamps2015]

Pooor Jimbob

 

[L. Wade Childress]

You didn't work in the fact that you have a law degree. Try harder. The only people who waste their time on a Ph.D in education are those whose employers pay them, by contract, extra for the degree, regardless of whether they are better educators. It's part of our wonderful education bureaucracy. Btw, do you think the 'doctors' in the education dept at the University of Phoenix refer to each other as 'Dr.?'

if I were you, I would hate research too

 

[DodgerHawki]

Speaking of substitution patterns - anyone notice in the first half we had Bohanan ( I think, it was a guard anyway) with JoeT, Nunge, Patrick, and KeMurray. 4 subs and 1 starter!! This crap needs to stop. Later, perhaps trying to send a message to the starters about crappy defense, he had Ulis and Perkins and one or 2 starting guards out there once.
We were lucky RU were 4/12 free throws!!!

Fran's sub patterns are sometimes odd, but minor annoyance. And FYI, Fran's decision to put Ulis, Perkins, Bohannon out there in the first half together gave Iowa a chance to win. Ulis and Perkins played great, Ulis especially. Basically Fran uses the first half subs between 13 minutes and 7 minutes to see which of his bench guys are on or giving him good minutes. In the second half, he usually limits the bench minutes a great deal. Today he gave a ton of minutes in the second half to Keegan Murray, with a few from Ulis, Nunge and Patrick McC.

 

[soybean]

Fran's sub patterns are sometimes odd, but minor annoyance. And FYI, Fran's decision to put Ulis, Perkins, Bohannon out there in the first half together gave Iowa a chance to win. Ulis and Perkins played great, Ulis especially. Basically Fran uses the first half subs between 13 minutes and 7 minutes to see which of his bench guys are on or giving him good minutes. In the second half, he usually limits the bench minutes a great deal. Today he gave a ton of minutes in the second half to Keegan Murray, with a few from Ulis, Nunge and Patrick McC.

I think Fran handled those subs near perfect. What people need to keep in mind is that on lesser teams, even some in the BIG10, guys like Joe, Keegan, Nunge and perhaps even Patrick, would be starters.

 

[Rifler]

Exactly right,.. If you needed to field a normal Iowa team out of this roster there would be at least eight starter quality players to choose from,.. This is a luxury that we aren't familiar with..

 

[Ronman]

I think there were a lot of Iowa fans that wanted Dr. Tom retained. He almost felt like your favorite uncle. Fortunately, we didn't have the loudest voices screaming on social media back then try to act as if they were speaking for the masses. I, for one, was never excited about hiring a dyed in the wool Hoosier to be the Hawkeye basketball coach and was happy when he left. Unfortunately, Barta went for the "flavor of the month" coach and it turned out to be an unprecedented disaster. I still remember his introduction and thought to myself we had hired a librarian to coach our basketball team (no offense to librarians). I give him minimum credit for pulling the plug on his obvious mistake.

 

[fivecardstud14]

I think there were a lot of Iowa fans that wanted Dr. Tom retained. He almost felt like your favorite uncle. Fortunately, we didn't have the loudest voices screaming on social media back then try to act as if they were speaking for the masses. I, for one, was never excited about hiring a dyed in the wool Hoosier to be the Hawkeye basketball coach and was happy when he left. Unfortunately, Barta went for the "flavor of the month" coach and it turned out to be an unprecedented disaster. I still remember his introduction and thought to myself we had hired a librarian to coach our basketball team (no offense to librarians). I give him minimum credit for pulling the plug on his obvious mistake.

Lickliter was the disaster.

 

[jimbob22]

Pooor Jimbob

Clever. But also deep. Congrats!