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I am not one to complain about Refs, but was anyone else done with this game 5 minutes into the 2nd?

So basically you are saying the meteorite that crash into Earth didn't kill off the dinosaurs??? It was the dust cloud in the sky that led to their demise. Come on dude, get real and learn the meaning of cause and effect. The refs were horrible and cause the Hawkeyes to lose their cool. IU did kick our butt but try to figure out why.
Cause and effect was that IU played the best game they have played in 4 or 5 months (or maybe all season) and most of the Hawkeyes, especially Jok and Baer, didn't show up. Officiating probably cost Iowa the Minnesota and Nebraska games, but it had almost no impact on this game. You might want to go back to surfing porn, or whatever you actually know something about.
 
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here are a few more stats from this game. at the 14:38 mark we were down 55-52 from that moment to the 2:43 mark they put up 40 points, 10 2s , 5 3s and 5 freethrows. they only missed 5 shots in 12 minutes (15 for 20) 75% , they were hotter than a popcorn fart. got all this off the play by play on ESPN site.
 
The refs had 0 to do with the outcome or the margin of victory in this game. Indiana flat out played Iowa. Refs were not biased and I have been a Hawk fan for my entire life. I don't buy into the conspiracy theories, but if you are understand that the Big 10 stood more to gain with an Iowa win unless Indiana goes on to win BTT. So just stop with the referee crap, this loss is clearly on our team.

OMG this is the stupidest post ever. To claim that refs have Zero to do with a margin of victory is absolutely the dumbest thing. Refs have an impact on every single game from street ball (self refs) to NBA. If they call or don't call a foul/turnover this effects how many points both teams score. So when you are saying the margin of victory isn't affected by them calling a phantom foul on Iowa and giving Indiana a 3 point play instead of 2 points, the margin of victory would be the same. To any logical thinking human being that would increase the margin of victory. So if the refs have multiple bad calls and compound this effect even more, the refs would have a even great impact on the margin of victory. Go back to school and learn about cause and effect.
 
Agreed. The others were meh, but I got pretty pissed off at the one on Bohannon.

"meh" seriously, go away. All of them were hot garbage. they let indiana get away with murder and call Iowa for feather fouls. I am sorry your red and white blinders were on but please do us all a favor and quit posting blatant lies.
 
"meh" seriously, go away. All of them were hot garbage. they let indiana get away with murder and call Iowa for feather fouls. I am sorry your red and white blinders were on but please do us all a favor and quit posting blatant lies.
......This is my first post in this thread.
 
Cause and effect was that IU played the best game they have played in 4 or 5 months (or maybe all season) and most of the Hawkeyes, especially Jok and Baer, didn't show up. Officiating probably cost Iowa the Minnesota and Nebraska games, but it had almost no impact on this game. You might want to go back to surfing porn, or whatever you actually know something about.

You didn't apply the cause and effect there buddy. What cause indiana to play the best game???? Answer, the refs. You might want to consider surfing porn because you clearly didn't learn much in school other than how not to be a critical thinker. Thanks for stalking me, I appreciate the fact that you have nothing better to do than to respond to my post.
 
I'll give you an A for effort on your trolling attempt.

"Hey there, names McLovin32. I am frat boy who paid for my friends in college. When I am riding in a car, I yell out the window at the pledges cause I'm that douche. I was love beta pizza and doing the elephant walk. Like they say in the Sound of Music, these are a few of my favorite things. I currently live in CR because I think it is the bee's knees."

Pin point accuracy there my friend. I know who you are so don't try to pretend this isn't you.
 
"Hey there, names McLovin32. I am frat boy who paid for my friends in college. When I am riding in a car, I yell out the window at the pledges cause I'm that douche. I was love beta pizza and doing the elephant walk. Like they say in the Sound of Music, these are a few of my favorite things. I currently live in CR because I think it is the bee's knees."

Pin point accuracy there my friend. I know who you are so don't try to pretend this isn't you.
Apparently you're mistaking me for stevenpatrick.
 
The refs seem to take the momentum away from the Hawks early in the second. Several Blocked shots by UI were not clean and no calls, then ticky tacky calls on the Hawks at the other end. I have nothing against bad refs AS LONG as they are bad both ways. I am amazed it took Fran as long as it did to pop and pick up the Technical Foul.

College officiating is as crappy as it's ever been, especially in the B1G. But it was a non-entity in this game. Iowa did this to themselves.
 
I made a mistake in naming this post. I do not believe the refs cost us the game. My point I was trying to make was that after several calls that the "players" seemed to think they should have gotten and didn't, the life seemed to drain out of them, and from that point on, it seemed the fight had gone out of who we needed it the most from.
 
The officiating certainly contributed to the collapse. 13 and 31 from Indiana should probably have fouled out by the 5 minute mark in the first half.

Hard for young players, hell any players, to outplay the officials. I'm sure all those free throws Hawks shot during the meeting. This officiating crew was not interested in an Iowa victory.
 
OMG this is the stupidest post ever. To claim that refs have Zero to do with a margin of victory is absolutely the dumbest thing. Refs have an impact on every single game from street ball (self refs) to NBA. If they call or don't call a foul/turnover this effects how many points both teams score. So when you are saying the margin of victory isn't affected by them calling a phantom foul on Iowa and giving Indiana a 3 point play instead of 2 points, the margin of victory would be the same. To any logical thinking human being that would increase the margin of victory. So if the refs have multiple bad calls and compound this effect even more, the refs would have a even great impact on the margin of victory. Go back to school and learn about cause and effect.
what you posted was the dumbest post ever , you are an idiot.
 
your posts keep getting dumber and dumber

A beacon of knowledge your post must be. Someone has mommy issue and if you take a look in the mirror you will see who. Come back when you can have a mature conversation and learn some civility.
 
A beacon of knowledge your post must be. Someone has mommy issue and if you take a look in the mirror you will see who. Come back when you can have a mature conversation and learn some civility.
why have a mature conversation with you ? you are an idiot
 
what you posted was the dumbest post ever , you are an idiot.

Wrong again dude. Name calling just shows how little respect you have for yourself and other. Try hitting the fast forward button in your life and grow up a bit. We all know life isn't fair but the gene pool was especially cruel with your brain capacity.
 
Wrong again dude. Name calling just shows how little respect you have for yourself and other. Try hitting the fast forward button in your life and grow up a bit. We all know life isn't fair but the gene pool was especially cruel with your brain capacity.
Yes, an idiot would be the guy who puts a space between a letter and the punctuation that follows it. Thanks for clarifying who the idiot is in this thread.
i am trying to slow things down for you because your a little slow .
 
this coming from a guy who uses 3 question marks .

I was exaggerating my confusion at how anyone could own "a little slow". I did it intentionally for the effect. At least I don't leave a space between the last letter and the question mark.
 
OMG this is the stupidest post ever. To claim that refs have Zero to do with a margin of victory is absolutely the dumbest thing. Refs have an impact on every single game from street ball (self refs) to NBA. If they call or don't call a foul/turnover this effects how many points both teams score. So when you are saying the margin of victory isn't affected by them calling a phantom foul on Iowa and giving Indiana a 3 point play instead of 2 points, the margin of victory would be the same. To any logical thinking human being that would increase the margin of victory. So if the refs have multiple bad calls and compound this effect even more, the refs would have a even great impact on the margin of victory. Go back to school and learn about cause and effect.

So glad I can now have the claim to fame of the "stupidest post ever". That is truly an honor.

I would agree with the general idea that a missed call can have something to do with a specific margin of victory. I was not clear in my assertion and thus caused confusion for which I take total responsibility. The out come of this game or general margin of victory was clearly not affected by the referees. By general margin I mean this was not a close game and specific point differential meant nothing to either team in the closing minutes. Certainly someone who is looking to argue would say that a specific margin of victory could be affected by the referees.

So let's conduct a cause and effect analysis of a basketball game. It would seem vital to identify what actually caused the effect of Iowa losing by a wide margin. After completing this cause and effect analysis it's painfully obvious that the preponderance of the evidence of this lopsided loss to Indiana can be attributed to the quality/lack of quality of play exhibited by both Iowa and Indiana players, and NOT the quality/lack of quality of refereeing.
 
So glad I can now have the claim to fame of the "stupidest post ever". That is truly an honor.

I would agree with the general idea that a missed call can have something to do with a specific margin of victory. I was not clear in my assertion and thus caused confusion for which I take total responsibility. The out come of this game or general margin of victory was clearly not affected by the referees. By general margin I mean this was not a close game and specific point differential meant nothing to either team in the closing minutes. Certainly someone who is looking to argue would say that a specific margin of victory could be affected by the referees.

So let's conduct a cause and effect analysis of a basketball game. It would seem vital to identify what actually caused the effect of Iowa losing by a wide margin. After completing this cause and effect analysis it's painfully obvious that the preponderance of the evidence of this lopsided loss to Indiana can be attributed to the quality/lack of quality of play exhibited by both Iowa and Indiana players, and NOT the quality/lack of quality of refereeing.
excellent post , the sad thing is why is margin of victory that important to the bottom line . 1 point loss or 31 point loss big deal . the only thing a large or small loss tells us is how hard or how hot a team played . during a 12 minute span ( 14.5 to 2.5 ) indiana shot 75% from the field making 15 of 20 shots . 10/2s , 5/3s plus 5 freethrows for 40 points , we went from down3 to down 27 , that was the difference in the game .
 
Unbelievable that anyone would whine about the officiating after a game like that. IU was just hot as heck and could not miss. They hit open and contested shots but Iowas poor defensive effort helped them a lot. Hate to see fans look for excuses after a loss.
 
College officiating is as crappy as it's ever been, especially in the B1G. But it was a non-entity in this game. Iowa did this to themselves.
All three sentences are completely correct. I would only add that Indiana being very hot contributed to the outcome.
 
So glad I can now have the claim to fame of the "stupidest post ever". That is truly an honor.

I would agree with the general idea that a missed call can have something to do with a specific margin of victory. I was not clear in my assertion and thus caused confusion for which I take total responsibility. The out come of this game or general margin of victory was clearly not affected by the referees. By general margin I mean this was not a close game and specific point differential meant nothing to either team in the closing minutes. Certainly someone who is looking to argue would say that a specific margin of victory could be affected by the referees.

So let's conduct a cause and effect analysis of a basketball game. It would seem vital to identify what actually caused the effect of Iowa losing by a wide margin. After completing this cause and effect analysis it's painfully obvious that the preponderance of the evidence of this lopsided loss to Indiana can be attributed to the quality/lack of quality of play exhibited by both Iowa and Indiana players, and NOT the quality/lack of quality of refereeing.

Absolutely wrong. You don't take into consideration the fact that this causes player to get into foul trouble which throws them off their game. Calling phantom fouls on players make them think twice about doing it again. Which inhibits their defense giving indiana a lot more open looks and easier lanes to the basket. Their is a lot more mental aspect to the game then you think. Iowa doesn't play well when faced with this extra adversity, it is just a fact of young and immature teams.

I won't even go into the countless number of over the backs, slaps, bumps, and shoves that iu got away with.

In a fairly called game, indiana may have still one because they were red hot. However, we will never know since the game wasn't fairly called. So everyone's complaint about the officiating is justified.
 
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