I am not sure what Clemmons 3 point % is, but he always seems to hit clutch 3's

[hawkit3113]

We are going to need him big time this year. I think he shines in his senior season.

 

[unoHawkeye]

Didn't Clemmons have the highest 3 pt% on the team last year? Maybe it was two years ago. Obviously, he takes fewer 3's than a Uthoff, Gesell, Oglesby, but I can appreciate somebody who takes quality 3 pt looks and can make them.

 

[CanadaHawk]

Didn't Clemmons have the highest 3 pt% on the team last year? Maybe it was two years ago. Obviously, he takes fewer 3's than a Uthoff, Gesell, Oglesby, but I can appreciate somebody who takes quality 3 pt looks and can make them.

As a 3pt shooter, Clemmons has always shot well from 3, I think basically because he's selective when he shoots the 3. It would be a big boost if he got more good looks.

 

[hawkit3113]

I am excited to see him get some extended minutes this season. I hope he is working on his offense. He is a talented player.

 

[torbee]

Didn't Clemmons have the highest 3 pt% on the team last year? Maybe it was two years ago. Obviously, he takes fewer 3's than a Uthoff, Gesell, Oglesby, but I can appreciate somebody who takes quality 3 pt looks and can make them.

He hit just over 37 percent last year, which led the team.

He is certainly not lacking in confidence heading into his senior season. And I love it:

http://www.hawkeyesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/102015aaa.html

 

[DanHawkPella]

If you graded Clemmons as a Scout, you might grade him like:

[Note: Conceptual, didn't spend much time on this so opinions will vary]

Perimeter Shots:

• Off the catch: A-
• Off the dribble: C
• Max Range: C (just to 3 point line)

Medium Range Shots:

• Off the dribble: C-
• Off the catch: C

Close Shots:

• Driving layups: B-

Defense:

• Man: A-
• Zone: B
• Help Man: B

Ball Handling:

• Dribbling against pressure: B
• Passing: B
• Decision Making: B-

Opinions will vary here. I'm guessing that his improvements this year will be in his conditioning and his consistency, but it's harder to guess where, if any, his scores above may improve. Very seldom does someone improve more than a partial grade in 1 off season in shooting, especially in their final year, but decision making and conditioning definitely can improve a lot in one offseason.

I think he can have a great year giving us a 2nd PG who has very little drop-off from Gesell - that helps a lot (maybe 12-15 mpg). However, I have my doubts that he's a good person for a lot of minutes at SG simply because he's not a good 3 point shooter off the dribble and primarily shoots a good percentage because he only takes wide open, catch and shoot 3's. Those shots won't be available against Wisconsin or MSU or OSU so he'll look great in December but struggle in March, and the limitations he brings from 10 feet on out will allow good teams to throttle our other scorers like Uthoff and Woody.

I hope he proves me wrong and comes out shooting stop and pop 3's with defenders nearby, develops a 15 foot game and makes great decisions, but my guess is that we'll get a very good backup PG but a dubious SG in the end.

Spacing is critical and one should design their team around beating Top 25 competition, so I could care less who looks good against the other teams if that lineup doesn't help us beat Wisconsin and MSU and Gonzaga when it counts. So I'm skeptical of Sapp at SG, but again nobody would be happier to be wrong!

 

[hawk-i bob]

If you graded Clemmons as a Scout, you might grade him like:

[Note: Conceptual, didn't spend much time on this so opinions will vary]

Perimeter Shots:

• Off the catch: A-
• Off the dribble: C
• Max Range: C (just to 3 point line)

Medium Range Shots:

• Off the dribble: C-
• Off the catch: C

Close Shots:

• Driving layups: B-

Defense:

• Man: A-
• Zone: B
• Help Man: B

Ball Handling:

• Dribbling against pressure: B
• Passing: B
• Decision Making: B-

Opinions will vary here. I'm guessing that his improvements this year will be in his conditioning and his consistency, but it's harder to guess where, if any, his scores above may improve. Very seldom does someone improve more than a partial grade in 1 off season in shooting, especially in their final year, but decision making and conditioning definitely can improve a lot in one offseason.

I think he can have a great year giving us a 2nd PG who has very little drop-off from Gesell - that helps a lot (maybe 12-15 mpg). However, I have my doubts that he's a good person for a lot of minutes at SG simply because he's not a good 3 point shooter off the dribble and primarily shoots a good percentage because he only takes wide open, catch and shoot 3's. Those shots won't be available against Wisconsin or MSU or OSU so he'll look great in December but struggle in March, and the limitations he brings from 10 feet on out will allow good teams to throttle our other scorers like Uthoff and Woody.

I hope he proves me wrong and comes out shooting stop and pop 3's with defenders nearby, develops a 15 foot game and makes great decisions, but my guess is that we'll get a very good backup PG but a dubious SG in the end.

Spacing is critical and one should design their team around beating Top 25 competition, so I could care less who looks good against the other teams if that lineup doesn't help us beat Wisconsin and MSU and Gonzaga when it counts. So I'm skeptical of Sapp at SG, but again nobody would be happier to be wrong!

Clemmons averaged nearly 20 min per game last year as a junior...you really think 12-15 as a senior? The one thing Clemmons has --- is experience... your grading doesn't take that into consideration. Guarantee you that Fran will.

He might be our best defensive guard..experience & defense is a recipe for success.

I don't think Clemmons limitations as you view it from 10 feet out ...will impact Uthoff...and Woody? ... if anything Woody probably has more offensive limitations than Sapp.

 

[hawk-i bob]

If you graded Clemmons as a Scout, you might grade him like:

[Note: Conceptual, didn't spend much time on this so opinions will vary]

Perimeter Shots:

• Off the catch: A-
• Off the dribble: C
• Max Range: C (just to 3 point line)

Medium Range Shots:

• Off the dribble: C-
• Off the catch: C

Close Shots:

• Driving layups: B-

Defense:

• Man: A-
• Zone: B
• Help Man: B

Ball Handling:

• Dribbling against pressure: B
• Passing: B
• Decision Making: B-

Opinions will vary here. I'm guessing that his improvements this year will be in his conditioning and his consistency, but it's harder to guess where, if any, his scores above may improve. Very seldom does someone improve more than a partial grade in 1 off season in shooting, especially in their final year, but decision making and conditioning definitely can improve a lot in one offseason.

I think he can have a great year giving us a 2nd PG who has very little drop-off from Gesell - that helps a lot (maybe 12-15 mpg). However, I have my doubts that he's a good person for a lot of minutes at SG simply because he's not a good 3 point shooter off the dribble and primarily shoots a good percentage because he only takes wide open, catch and shoot 3's. Those shots won't be available against Wisconsin or MSU or OSU so he'll look great in December but struggle in March, and the limitations he brings from 10 feet on out will allow good teams to throttle our other scorers like Uthoff and Woody.

I hope he proves me wrong and comes out shooting stop and pop 3's with defenders nearby, develops a 15 foot game and makes great decisions, but my guess is that we'll get a very good backup PG but a dubious SG in the end.

Spacing is critical and one should design their team around beating Top 25 competition, so I could care less who looks good against the other teams if that lineup doesn't help us beat Wisconsin and MSU and Gonzaga when it counts. So I'm skeptical of Sapp at SG, but again nobody would be happier to be wrong!

Clemmons averaged nearly 20 min per game last year as a junior...you really think 12-15 as a senior? The one thing Clemmons has --- is experience... your grading doesn't take that into consideration. Guarantee you that Fran will.

He might be our best defensive guard..experience & defense is a recipe for success.

I don't think Clemmons limitations as you view it from 10 feet out ...will impact Uthoff...and Woody? ... if anything Woody probably has more offensive limitations than Sapp.

 

[hawk-i bob]

sorry for the double post ... my computer has been in delay mode ... today.

 

[buttermypancakes]

If you graded Clemmons as a Scout, you might grade him like:

[Note: Conceptual, didn't spend much time on this so opinions will vary]

Perimeter Shots:

• Off the catch: A-
• Off the dribble: C
• Max Range: C (just to 3 point line)

Medium Range Shots:

• Off the dribble: C-
• Off the catch: C

Close Shots:

• Driving layups: B-

Defense:

• Man: A-
• Zone: B
• Help Man: B

Ball Handling:

• Dribbling against pressure: B
• Passing: B
• Decision Making: B-

Opinions will vary here. I'm guessing that his improvements this year will be in his conditioning and his consistency, but it's harder to guess where, if any, his scores above may improve. Very seldom does someone improve more than a partial grade in 1 off season in shooting, especially in their final year, but decision making and conditioning definitely can improve a lot in one offseason.

I think he can have a great year giving us a 2nd PG who has very little drop-off from Gesell - that helps a lot (maybe 12-15 mpg). However, I have my doubts that he's a good person for a lot of minutes at SG simply because he's not a good 3 point shooter off the dribble and primarily shoots a good percentage because he only takes wide open, catch and shoot 3's. Those shots won't be available against Wisconsin or MSU or OSU so he'll look great in December but struggle in March, and the limitations he brings from 10 feet on out will allow good teams to throttle our other scorers like Uthoff and Woody.

I hope he proves me wrong and comes out shooting stop and pop 3's with defenders nearby, develops a 15 foot game and makes great decisions, but my guess is that we'll get a very good backup PG but a dubious SG in the end.

Spacing is critical and one should design their team around beating Top 25 competition, so I could care less who looks good against the other teams if that lineup doesn't help us beat Wisconsin and MSU and Gonzaga when it counts. So I'm skeptical of Sapp at SG, but again nobody would be happier to be wrong!

TBH I don't want anyone shooting 3's consistently off the dribble so that's an odd way to judge a college PG/SG. Pretty much every player besides Steph Curry's shooting percentage drops drastically when pulling up from distance off the dribble.

 

[DanHawkPella]

Clemmons played 19.7 mpg last year (roughly 14 mpg at PG since Gesell averaged 25 mpg) in a situation where Dickerson and Ellingson weren't viable for minutes for most of the year, leaving just Gesell, Jok and Oglesby to compete for backcourt time.

This year I think Gesell averages closer to 28 mpg and we have a healthy Ellingson, Fleming, Jok (will play perhaps half his minutes at SG), Moss and perhaps others at SG.

That's a lot of competition for minutes - Clemmons should get 12-14 mpg at PG and perhaps up to 5 mpg at SG, so I could see him back at 15-20 mpg again but I do believe we're better with a Gesell-Fleming backcourt than a Gesell-Clemmons backcourt for various reasons. Having played a lot of ball (mostly informally) I just think spacing and the ability to create your own shot is so critical against Top 25 teams and I don't think he can give us that. He's too easy to guard in the half court imo, and you can help off him easier than some other players who shoot better, shoot deeper, and can create their own mid-range shot if you get on them at all. Gesell can do that, even if his range is limited.

I think Clemmons will excel against teams outside the Top 25 because we don't need as much spacing and other players will create opportunities for him. It's the Top 25 teams that will be the litmus test.

Still hope Clemmons blows me out of the water, though. He's a good kid and deserving of a strong senior year.

 

[hawk-i bob]

Clemmons played 19.7 mpg last year (roughly 14 mpg at PG since Gesell averaged 25 mpg) in a situation where Dickerson and Ellingson weren't viable for minutes for most of the year, leaving just Gesell, Jok and Oglesby to compete for backcourt time.

This year I think Gesell averages closer to 28 mpg and we have a healthy Ellingson, Fleming, Jok (will play perhaps half his minutes at SG), Moss and perhaps others at SG.

That's a lot of competition for minutes - Clemmons should get 12-14 mpg at PG and perhaps up to 5 mpg at SG, so I could see him back at 15-20 mpg again but I do believe we're better with a Gesell-Fleming backcourt than a Gesell-Clemmons backcourt for various reasons. Having played a lot of ball (mostly informally) I just think spacing and the ability to create your own shot is so critical against Top 25 teams and I don't think he can give us that. He's too easy to guard in the half court imo, and you can help off him easier than some other players who shoot better, shoot deeper, and can create their own mid-range shot if you get on them at all. Gesell can do that, even if his range is limited.

I think Clemmons will excel against teams outside the Top 25 because we don't need as much spacing and other players will create opportunities for him. It's the Top 25 teams that will be the litmus test.

Still hope Clemmons blows me out of the water, though. He's a good kid and deserving of a strong senior year.

like you... Clemmons has played a lot of college ball...Fleming not any as yet. You seem to be focused on offense...I would suggest Fran will focus on defense equally..with Clemmons being one of the best defenders we have (and considering sometimes it takes Freshman some time)...defense puts Clemmons far ahead of Fleming..

Fleming...hum I'm not sure if he can be described as someone who can create his own shot...at least the very little I saw of him in PTL games...he does seem to not have a fear of shooting from out...as Coach Dillard mentioned...but creating his own shot?..well I guess we will see..

I like Fleming a lot...have said he might have the quickest impact as any of them (have not seen Moss in person)....it could very well be that Fleming or Moss could crack the starting lineup come B1G time...but that would be because Fran would prefer to have his #2 PG coming off the bench...really depends on how quick the freshman catch on.

well lets see how it plays out..

 

[StormHawk42]

Clemmons will be close to 20 mins guaranteed. Even though he exceeded everyone's expectations last year, he's still underrated.

 

[fivecardstud14]

Clemmons gets a bad rep because he doesn't look for his shot. But those people who hate on him don't watch defense, key passes, and not turning the ball over. I don't expect him to average more than 6 or 7 points a game but that doesn't matter. There are other guys that need to score and Clemmons is very solid in all other areas, especially his on-ball defense.

 

[HoustonREDHawk]

like you... Clemmons has played a lot of college ball...Fleming not any as yet. You seem to be focused on offense...I would suggest Fran will focus on defense equally..with Clemmons being one of the best defenders we have (and considering sometimes it takes Freshman some time)...defense puts Clemmons far ahead of Fleming..

Fleming...hum I'm not sure if he can be described as someone who can create his own shot...at least the very little I saw of him in PTL games...he does seem to not have a fear of shooting from out...as Coach Dillard mentioned...but creating his own shot?..well I guess we will see..

I like Fleming a lot...have said he might have the quickest impact as any of them (have not seen Moss in person)....it could very well be that Fleming or Moss could crack the starting lineup come B1G time...but that would be because Fran would prefer to have his #2 PG coming off the bench...really depends on how quick the freshman catch on.

well lets see how it plays out..

I think this is dead on. Not knocking our new players, but I think experience and defense are likely to trump offensive potential. A lot will depend on how well Fleming, Moss, Ellingson, and even Williams play on both ends of the court.

 

[iowalawhawk]

Clemmons has really developed from being a guy who made me wince when he had the ball into a guy who I trust with the ball in tight or late game situations. His floor is a steady, veteran bench player - think Eric May, senior year.

 

[CanadaHawk]

Clemmons gets a bad rep because he doesn't look for his shot. But those people who hate on him don't watch defense, key passes, and not turning the ball over. I don't expect him to average more than 6 or 7 points a game but that doesn't matter. There are other guys that need to score and Clemmons is very solid in all other areas, especially his on-ball defense.

Last year Sapp averaged just under 5pts with just under 20min/game. I could see him upping it to 7 with not many more minutes as a senior. I'd like to know from people who have seen practices if screens/plays are being run for him to get open. That could make a big difference to what he could contribute.