Should KF be allowed back in 2026 if he still hasn't passed Woody by the end of 2025?

[squeezebox]

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Seth Wallace promoted to assistant head coach of the Iowa Hawkeyes

Seth Wallace has been named Iowa’s assistant head coach. Wallace and Iowa defensive coordinator Phil Parker both saw significant pay raises.

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Identifying who could take over for Kirk Ferentz after retirement

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[MeetTheFerentzes]

I work where I do because I'm the owner.

I hope your Mary Kay sales are going as well as my wife’s. She says she’s the “owner” of her business, too; it’s adorable.

 

[pistachio1999]

Just trying to be real. As much as I and a large portion of the fan base would appreciate it if KF would gracefully retire at the end of this season, I think anyone being objective would say that he is not going to walk away on his own assuming he's still short of Woody's wins total, and BG is not going to fire him one year removed from a 10-win season when he has a new OC (as forced upon by her). I think most would agree that the most likely scenario is that KF coaches through 2025, passes Woody's win total by a few, then calls it quits.

The big question is - What happens if things get really bad, to the point that Iowa is not able to scratch together 6 more wins between now and the end of 2025? We could argue about how likely that is, but for the sake of this poll/discussion, I want to assume Iowa is not able to do this - say they finish this season 6-7 and next season 3-9. In that scenario, assuming KF wants to come back, should he be allowed to?

The fact you think Beth will fire him, lolz. As Brommelkamp stated this week, the silent majority loves Kirk Ferentz and would mutiny.

 

[cannibal in the woods]

So you'd like to see Iowa go 0-20 under Kirk and see him get fired? WTF are you from Nebraska? Wisconsin? or Illinois?

Kirk has been everything to Iowa football for the past 25+ years. Give him the credit & respect he deserves. Let me guess, you're Scott Frost in a cornhusker costume aren't you? Get yourself off....

No one is surprised that you have pictures like that in your favorites. Drink more ethanol, Tom Osborne high priest.

 

[cannibal in the woods]

The fact you think Beth will fire him, lolz. As Brommelkamp stated this week, the silent majority loves Kirk Ferentz and would mutiny.

If the state of Iowa becomes a desert, it will be because of them.

 

[Dumpster fire police]

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Exactly who from KF's vast coaching tree is getting the job?

This. Especially considering how ambitious his coaches have been after their careers at Iowa.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

The fact you think Beth will fire him, lolz. As Brommelkamp stated this week, the silent majority loves Kirk Ferentz and would mutiny.

I have a very hard time believing that there would be a mutiny from anyone if KF is shown the door after going 5-13 in the next 18 games. I also highly doubt the “silent majority” bologna.

 

[danny14]

Kirk will !save when HE wants. Only stupid fans would think otherwise. His contract goes through 2029. Unless he has several losing seasons in a row, he won't get fired.

I think all bets are off once he passes Woody. She'll give him the option of leaving with grace or getting fired. Unless he pulls a rabbit out of his hat and goes 10-2/9-3 next year. Contract extensions are often done for recruiting, not necessarily for the coach going to the completion date.

 

[BrotherHawkeye]

Ferentz is not getting fired. Not ever. I’ve thought that before the season began that he might retire after this year, but I think he’s here for a couple of more.

 

[SVRHawkeye]

My impression is that BG knows analytics and has plans in place based on multiple scenarios of how the wins/losses and overall competitiveness play out. Iowa football is a whole lot more than KF, something KF understands. The only real question in my mind is whether there is a KF as figurehead plan in the BG playbook and whether KF would be agreeable (maybe we are largely there already). My preference is getting KF the wins necessary to surpass Hayes and to 60% with an understanding that BG won’t let him nosedive the program like the end of the Fry-era.
Regardless, the program needs a bit of a kick in rear to restart excitement and optimism for the future.

 

[uihawk82]

Just trying to be real. As much as I and a large portion of the fan base would appreciate it if KF would gracefully retire at the end of this season, I think anyone being objective would say that he is not going to walk away on his own assuming he's still short of Woody's wins total, and BG is not going to fire him one year removed from a 10-win season when he has a new OC (as forced upon by her). I think most would agree that the most likely scenario is that KF coaches through 2025, passes Woody's win total by a few, then calls it quits.

The big question is - What happens if things get really bad, to the point that Iowa is not able to scratch together 6 more wins between now and the end of 2025? We could argue about how likely that is, but for the sake of this poll/discussion, I want to assume Iowa is not able to do this - say they finish this season 6-7 and next season 3-9. In that scenario, assuming KF wants to come back, should he be allowed to?

I voted yes because of his buyout and his total wins if he only needs a couple of them. But I think Iowa wins at least 3 more this year. They might stumble against Wisky at home but I think they are a better team than UCLA and Maryland even with all the hawk's warts.

 

[uihawk82]

I work where I do because I'm the owner. I'd like Iowa to field a high-quality football team as soon as possible, and I think Kirk Ferentz gives us the best odds, by far, of that happening.

"Allowed", lol.

If Kirk had a dynamic offense in 2021, '22, and '23 with the special teams and defenses Phil had Kirk might have been in a CFP playoffs, maybe the championship game, and maybe have won a championship.

Kirk is an offensive coach and always has been since joining Fry's staff over 40 years ago yet he has had just terrible offenses. The offensive buck stops with Kirk.

So if the team really struggles and loses a bunch of the next 17 games then that is the trend Kirk had the team on and you cant expect Phil Parker to have a top 10 defense every year. Not when your offense was bottom bottom bottom

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

My experience is the opposite. Every single long-time Iowa fan I know is completely fed-up with KF and has been for quite some time. The only place I find his blindly loyal supporters is on this board.

I could counter your anecdotes with Iowa football's huge fan demand this season, but I'll just say this: Why should I take what you say seriously given your handle and your profile photo? Or your posting history? You're not remotely objective in regard to Kirk Ferentz. You're just not worth the time.

 

[tdburg11]

Just trying to be real. As much as I and a large portion of the fan base would appreciate it if KF would gracefully retire at the end of this season, I think anyone being objective would say that he is not going to walk away on his own assuming he's still short of Woody's wins total, and BG is not going to fire him one year removed from a 10-win season when he has a new OC (as forced upon by her). I think most would agree that the most likely scenario is that KF coaches through 2025, passes Woody's win total by a few, then calls it quits.

The big question is - What happens if things get really bad, to the point that Iowa is not able to scratch together 6 more wins between now and the end of 2025? We could argue about how likely that is, but for the sake of this poll/discussion, I want to assume Iowa is not able to do this - say they finish this season 6-7 and next season 3-9. In that scenario, assuming KF wants to come back, should he be allowed to?

No

 

[icwesthawk]

There's too much money involved, KF must leave on his own. They also will not get rid of him until he has the record with the Hawk's name on it.

 

[danny14]

Interesting thing about Hayes and Ferentz is they are probably the most conservative coaches of their era. Hayes had the same philosophy as Ferentz, except he was gifted with top recruits.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

I could counter your anecdotes with Iowa football's huge fan demand this season, but I'll just say this: Why should I take what you say seriously given your handle and your profile photo? Or your posting history? You're not remotely objective in regard to Kirk Ferentz. You're just not worth the time.

I was worth the time for your reply, apparently.

You might not like what I have to say about KF (and BF) a lot of the time, but it's only because you don't like brutal honesty, and has nothing to do with the accuracy of the remarks themselves.

Hawkeye fans loving and supporting their football team has very little to do with KF and his performance as a coach the past few years. You know it and I know it. Hawkeye football Saturdays are a happenin' thing, and it would take 5-6 Lickliter-type years for there to be a noticeable difference. If KF were allowed to coach as long as he wanted, we might actually reach that level.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Interesting thing about Hayes and Ferentz is they are probably the most conservative coaches of their era. Hayes had the same philosophy as Ferentz, except he was gifted with top recruits.

I'd love to see KF try to take a swing at an opposing player on the sideline....

 

[unipanther1999]

I think more important than Woody's record is Kirk getting to 60% winning percentage overall, and with that eligibility to the Colllege Football Hall of Fame.

He's really close (59.7%), but would need to finish really well this year.

He's 212-143.

If he finishes 4-1, he's right at 60% - but would have the bowl game that would knock him back down below 60% if they lose it.

He can't lose twice more and meet the criteria this season. If he does, he would need to have a 9 win season next year.

 

[icwesthawk]

I think more important than Woody's record is Kirk getting to 60% winning percentage overall, and with that eligibility to the Colllege Football Hall of Fame.

He's really close (59.7%), but would need to finish really well this year.

I think that tells us so much about our 25 year coach. Not at 60% is not very good

 

[unipanther1999]

Well, he’s over 60% at Iowa, it’s the Maine years that drag him down.

 

[icwesthawk]

Well, he’s over 60% at Iowa, it’s the Maine years that drag him down.

I feel like it's more than his Maine days that are dragging him down

 

[Bow.to.the.Narrative]

I think more important than Woody's record is Kirk getting to 60% winning percentage overall, and with that eligibility to the Colllege Football Hall of Fame.

He's really close (59.7%), but would need to finish really well this year.

He's 212-143.

If he finishes 4-1, he's right at 60% - but would have the bowl game that would knock him back down below 60% if they lose it.

He can't lose twice more and meet the criteria this season. If he does, he would need to have a 9 win season next year.

I don't think he's going to hit those numbers.