NW fans should be bragging. Fitz has beaten Iowa just over 50% of the time. That'd be like Iowa winning 8 or 10 in a row against Brady & the Patriots.
Name me 1 Iowa fan that wouldn't be ecstatic beating the Patriots 10 years straight.
I am tired of losing to Northwestern!
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Name me 1 Iowa fan that wouldn't be ecstatic beating the Patriots 10 years straight.
Losing to this year's Northwestern team is humiliating. But it would have been humiliating for NW to lose to this Iowa team. Both Iowa and NW are bad football teams this year. That was probably the ugliest game I've watched since Iowa beat Rutgers 14-7 last year. This type of crap should not be happening, but Kirk Ferentz is about eight years past his prime. 2015 was a fluke, a fortunate happenstance fueled by having an NFL QB and NFL LB (Jewell) who provided emotional sparks for the O and D. There's no identity on O at all this year. Who knew losing LeShun Daniel would hurt this much. Wadley's great if he has a good OL, but Daniels is a better back for a team that can't open holes consistently. He rarely lost yardage whereas Wadley loses yardage on about a third of his carries which is mostly inconsistent execution by OL, poor scheme by coaches, and piss poor play calling that seems almost random. If the loss to NW isn't a wake up call for this team, they're toast.
You first.You’re assigning way more thoughtfulness to Fitz than what is warranted. (Or perhaps you are unfamiliar with my methods..........) His only purpose is to find a way to win every single football game he can. (Yeah well he shouldn't.........or maybe start beating Ohio State. How about that.) As players, he (and I) won two B1G 10 championships in 95-96 (Aw, that's too bad.) despite losing to Iowa (and pretty much everybody else) 17 seasons in a row before that. (Good times.) He’s coached two 10 win teams since 2012 (Okay.) and has been within 1-2 wins of a B1G championships or division championships in 2008, 2009, 2012 and 2015 during his coaching tenure. (Lol that's some Iowa State fan spin type sh** right there. I thought Northwestern fans were better than that at the very least. I could do the exact same thing with Iowa but I don't need to.) (You guys pissed on our 2015 parade by the way (Of course we did.)).
He’s now just starting to recruit off a new $250 MM world class football facility where NU will go from bottom 3 to top 3 in the B1G conference in terms of facilities. (But still below Iowa)
You may be ‘smart’ enough to think Fitz will never get there, but he isn’t. (You questioning Pat Fitzgerald's intelligence is the best comment in this thread.....
By the way, 11 out of the last 14 players (including Clayton Thorson and Justin Jackson) offered by both Iowa and NU went to NU... (If you could smell a picture of a fart, that's what you'd be doing right now......................Oh I'm sorry, you're probably asking what this has to do with Northwestern recruiting vs Iowa. It has nothing. Because I don't care. The one thing you need to learn about me, personally, is that I, as a fan, dont give a single f*** about the recruiting of high school athletes to college programs, especially as far as the pissing match of 'who gets who' goes. If you told me this information to my face, I would've bust out laughing and would've had to walk out of the room, because that would've been the end of it right there. F***ing trying to make an argument based on recruiting.....Who gives a f***.
Of all the f***ing things fans can use to try and prove who has the better program, recruiting is about the last f***ing thing on the list you could go to....and I say you, meaning you and others because I refuse to give any f***s about recruiting. I care about the players that are there, and what they do when they are there. You're welcome.
P.S. Speaking of which, Jackson went 2-2 against Iowa. Yeah he f***ing got us good there. He sure showed Iowa......
Link: https://northwestern.rivals.com/news/recruiting-battles-northwestern-vs-iowa
Every time Iowa manages to beat NU is a testament to Ferentz and his coaching (and player development) abilities and is a sign of Fitz’s shortcomings as there’s absolutely no excuse for NU to lose to Iowa in the modern age. (That is a solid backhanded compliment..........even though Northwestern actually should be losing to Iowa with much more frequency. Those 48-7 and 40-10 games are more indicative than what Iowa has done the past two years.
There see, I did what you tried to do with your above comment but better..........
Deal with it.
Name me 1 sane person - Iowa fan or otherwise - who would equate Iowa with the Patriots. C'mon, man. I know this is your board, but how do you even type something like that with a straight face? I mean, if you're gonna post, at least make some semblance of sense.
This post is really an all timer- Fitz basically coaches to play spoiler, but especially to Iowa. That’s a thing right there. I sincerely hope you’re just trolling and don’t actually believe that.
Look, I’m a Northwestern fan living in Iowa (yes, I’m the one). Iowa’s fan base has a size and passion that NU can’t even come close to touching. The game day atmosphere at a game in Iowa City, especially when Iowa is in the division race and/or it’s a night game, is ten times what it is at NU. These are all just facts. But what you said above has got to be the most ridiculous pile of garbage I have read. A football coach for another team coaches only to ruin Iowa’s season. Get over yourself and find another excuse to make you feel better.
All this, “they try harder”, “they want it more” stuff is really funny to read. Wrong. Out of these last 20 or so years, the only game I remember NU winning that they probably wouldn’t have without a weird circumstance was when Stanzi got hurt when you guys were ranked 4th. Though I still don’t understand why your OC called a naked bootleg in your own end zone with a future NFL DE on that side of the line. So maybe that’s on you guys too.
True with regard to tOSU. We hate them too. Don't you?
Meatchicken was generally content to hang 45 or 50 on us and call it a day. The ugliest Hayden Fry blowout that I had the misfortune to witness was 64-0. He seemed to go out of his way to kill us worse in Evanston than he did in Iowa City, too. Almost like he had some special hatred for NU and our fans.
It is true that Fitz has a special desire to beat Io*a. In 95, I think his leg was broken in the Io*a game and he did not get to play in the RB. Don't think it is red lettered anymore as it was by Barnett but I am sure there is a special satisfaction in beating them.
Whoa, I know NW fans are dumb but you may take the cake. I'm going to chalk this one up to you struggling to comprehend what you're reading.
You are my hero. I've been using dOSU all these years, but now I know the correct term is fOSU. fOSU indeed!
This post is really an all timer- Fitz basically coaches to play spoiler, but especially to Iowa. That’s a thing right there. (It is. Be offended.) I sincerely hope you’re just trolling and don’t actually believe that. (I am always trolling, and I always speak the truth............unpredictability is my nature.
Look, I’m a Northwestern fan (I'm sorry.) living in Iowa (yes, I’m the one). Iowa’s fan base has a size and passion that NU can’t even come close to touching. The game day atmosphere at a game in Iowa City, especially when Iowa is in the division race and/or it’s a night game, is ten times what it is at NU. These are all just facts. (Like Iowa > Northwestern?) But what you said above has got to be the most ridiculous pile of garbage I have read. (Well then you are sheltering yourself from the true horrors of the internet......) A football coach for another team coaches only to ruin Iowa’s season. (Yeeaaahh, and?....) Get over yourself and find another excuse to make you feel better. (Nope, I'd rather you forfeit your win to Iowa.)
All this, “they try harder”, “they want it more” stuff is really funny to read. (I am an entertainer.) Wrong. (F***, I knew it.) Out of these last 20 or so years, the only game I remember NU winning that they probably wouldn’t have without a weird circumstance was when Stanzi got hurt when you guys were ranked 4th. Though I still don’t understand why your OC called a naked bootleg in your own end zone with a future NFL DE on that side of the line. So maybe that’s on you guys too. (That's the only game you can think of? Think harder because I don't want to have to do this for you. I don't enjoy getting into these history lessons like I once did.)
Come to think of it, I am tired of my Wildcats beating all these crappy Ioa teams. Granted there was the naked Ricky Stanzi game when Ioa was #4, but that has been the exception.
Ioa either needs to get some better teams for NU to beat, or NU needs to beat fOSU like a rented mule.
Ioa either needs to get some better teams for NU to beat, or NU needs to beat fOSU like a rented mule.
. . . or to you struggling to express yourself properly. What you're saying is, "Iowa is to Northwestern as the Patriots are to Iowa". Ergo, from the NU perspective, Iowa = the Patriots. Hard to justify that sentiment, no matter how biased, drunk or delusional you may be. But hey, if it props up your ego, knock yourself out.
Whoa, is this a "who's the dumbest NW poster" joke that I'm not aware of? Are you idiot Kitties having a stupid contest between each other? Some sort of "I'm the most dumb NW poster" inside joke??
16 consecutive wins. Lost in 95/96/97. Won in 98. Overall record 17-3. He also owned Iowa State and Wisconsin and some other teams. God Hayden's teams were fun to watch.
1994 - 49 13
23 19
56 14
24 10
56 14
35 22
35 10
52 24
27 20
49 10
31 3
61 21
45 7
64 0
25 3
1979 - 58 6
Having a selective memory is for an Iowa fan and not an NU fan...
NU was without its starting QB for most of that 2009 game as (All Big Ten QB) Mike Kafka's pulled hamstring (the week before against Penn State which cost us that game) dramatically limited his snaps and effectiveness vs. Iowa. People also seem to forget that the 2009 Iowa team amassed an impressive W-L record despite Stanzi (15 INTs in 2009) and not because of him. After Corey Wootton broke him in half in the end zone, Stanzi suddenly became the second coming of Joe Montana... That 2009 NU team (with a healthy Mike Kafka) beat #17 Wisconsin 2 weeks later by the way.
After a rash of early season injuries, NU finished 2009 @ 8-4 (5-3 in B1G) and Ioa finished 10-2 (6-2 in B1G). This was hardly a huge upset as that 2009 Iowa team was one of the most overrated #6 teams in history.
NU is 12-9 versus Iowa since 1995 by the way. 6 of those 12 (beaten) Iowa teams had at least 8 wins (with the 2017 Iowa team TBD & could be the 7th). 3 of those Iowa teams had at least 9 wins.
Dude, you're embarrassing the rest of us. Just stop.
Northwestern beating Iowa is not on par with Iowa beating an NFL franchise, let alone the Patriots, 10 times in a row. That doesn't even fit the realm of hyperbole, it's so obnoxious and stupid.
And, yes, of course, Northwestern is known for having such low academic standards where their graduates generally come out slow and stupid. Another excellent point on your behalf.
Just stop.
That's a pretty bullshit statement--nebulous and broad and really saying nothing.
After the disastrous Ricky Stanzi game vs. NW, Iowa went into Columbus with a backup freshman QB and lost in OT to a team that went on to win the Rose Bowl vs. Oregon. Those were Iowa's only losses that season before winning the Orange Bowl by 10.
Please point out historically teams who have finished the year with two close losses and a double-digit win in the Orange Bowl who should be considered overrated at #7 in the Coaches and AP polls.
So you're ostensibly validating the OP's point (he's tired of losing to inferior NW teams who play out of their ass to beat Iowa). Brilliant.
Even more amusing, is your opening statement about Iowa fans succumbing to revisionist history, all before advancing a long-winded, aggrandized narrative about how great NW could have been in '09 with a healthy QB (because every other team in the B1G had no injuries of their own), all the while cherry picking one statistic (Stanzi's INTs) as evidence that Iowa was better off without him. Again, brilliant.
The point I'm making has nothing to do with the debate about whether Iowa is losing to inferior NW teams. My point is your logic and reasoning for reaching the conclusions you do are on par with Rocky Mountain Hawk's. In other words, you're a fuggin' smug idiot.
This is the first post of your crappy posts that I decide to read. Shame on me.
Free tip: keep your posts shorter. You're a crappy poster & nobody cares to read what you have to say. The least you can do if you're going to post on here is keep your nonsense short.
And interesting. Interesting posts would be a good thing for you to focus on as well.
I know, heaven forbid you read something that might teach you how to actually express yourself halfway intelligently.
"This is the first post of your crappy posts that I decide to read" is a brilliant sentence, btw.
Yes, I'm sure most people on here prefer the idiotic, illiterate drivel you come up with. Good call.
Lol, I was just going to post, "to be continued". It's too nice out here & I'm going for a bike ride.I don't know how I will get any sleep tonight.
Good day, sir.
I remember that 2009 Iowa team well. I watched all their snaps. Good team, but not top 5-10 material:
Pros:
1) Physical bruising RB.
2) Typical physical Iowa OL
3) Disciplined defense. Good against the run.
Cons:
1) Poor decision-maker at QB.
2) Lack of big-play ability on offense (although an effective play-action team).
3) Disciplined secondary but lack elite lockdown man coverage corners.
Eaked out wins against teams such as Northern Iowa and Arkansas State. Even the best Iowa teams seem struggle to dominate inferior opponents, but that’s another topic.
So, a solid top 15-25 team. Not top 4 or 6 (or whatever they were when NU played them).
Iowa’s 2002 Team was legit top 5 IMO. 2004 Team was legit top 10.
The 2009 Team was a lot like the 2015 Iowa Team IMO. Good teams, but very beatable. Had to play their Best Football week in and week out to win.
EDIT: They also beat a triple option Georgia Tech team in the Orange Bowl. This is the type of team Iowa was built to destroy especially given the bowl prep time.
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Both corners were multi year starters in the NFL, one safety played multiple seasons in the league while the other was an UDFA.
You're a moron.
I assumed the corners weren't very good because Iowa never blitzed and had them sitting in a cover 4 almost all game every game. I may be a moron, but I'm certainly not dumb enough to have 2 elite corners and play them in cover 4 all day. Interesting...
I have chunks in my stool bigger than you, moron.
The funny thing is, for a team that everybody says is not relevant we seem to be "circled" by a bunch of teams as the program they need to get past to be relevant. NW, Minn, ISU, hell pretty soon we'll be circled by Nebraska as the team they wish they could beat......
Ah, so now you're just assuming then?
A) Iowa didn't have it's corners playing cover 4 all day.
B) Iowa's had a top 10 defense in 2009, I'd say whatever scheme they used worked pretty damn well.
C) NW had a whopping 131 passing yards in 2009. Yeah, must have been the soft corner play.
Thanks for proving you're a moron.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/2009-team-defense.html
As I previously stated, NU’s starting quarterback was injured, which meant NU had to rely on the run game.
Reading comprehension is a skill, moron.
Also, I don’t think cover 4 means what you think it means...
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If I may ask, BlackNGoldBleeder, where did you guys find this Rocky Mountain goof? He makes one of the most laughably absurd comparisons anyone has ever seen on any school's message board, then somehow can't even grasp what it is that he was actually saying . . . then goes on a childish rant, spewing the kind of insults one might expect from a smartass eight-year-old. Rest assured, though, that even though there's typically a good bit of edgy back-and-forth between NU fans and Iowa fans, there aren't many on this side who see that dimwit as representative of the majority of the Hawkeye fan base. I can see how his act can get a little tired with you guys, too.
