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I missed Jewell's apology for his classless behavior

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Not sure but hes working on trademarking the post victory formation kneel down punt. Know any good attorneys?
Apparently the entire PSU as institution does, I mean they were able to cover up little boys being raped by a football coach who continued coaches and presumably raping little boys for decades after the first report.....somehow they still have football program and even worse they have fans that support such an institution, those must have been some damn good lawyers
 
This thread just goes to show there are idiots in all shapes, sizes, colors, and fan bases.

The game Saturday was epic. Both teams battled hard and both deserve much respect. This inane bantering back and forth is for morons and Internet tough guys.

Smh.
This thread just goes to show there are idiots in all shapes, sizes, colors, and fan bases.

The game Saturday was epic. Both teams battled hard and both deserve much respect. This inane bantering back and forth is for morons and Internet tough guys.

Smh.

Agreed 100%, it’s rmba to both fan bases. I lived with Iowa and like the Hawkeyes . I graduated from Penn State . I can like my team with being so disrespectful to another team .
And I can actually root for a different team when they’re not playing my guys. People need to grow up.
 
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Personally, I think any athlete that obviously took the time to come up with some kind of signature celebration is glorifying himself, and NOT THE TEAM. McSorley can patent his gay little celebration move for all I care. As for Jewell, he was mocking the gay little celebration move in the heat of battle which calls out McSorley for glorifying himself when he throws a TD pass. McSorley's punt was just emotion running wild, which is understandable considering the hard fought way the game went, and the emotion of winning it on the last second, so I don't give the punt a second thought.
 
You should just shut your mouth and go back to your forums. You're lucky that Penn St is even allowed to play football. If the NCAA actually placed values above money, your program would be given the death penalty for the institutional failure that allowed children to be sexually abused.


You should stop proving you're an ignorant moron.
 
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Apparently the entire PSU as institution does, I mean they were able to cover up little boys being raped by a football coach who continued coaches and presumably raping little boys for decades after the first report.....somehow they still have football program and even worse they have fans that support such an institution, those must have been some damn good lawyers


They have a program because lies like yours mean shit.
 
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They have a program because lies like yours mean shit.
So Jerry Sandusky is in prison for not raping boys?
You know it was my own damn fault for having a just-world phenomenon....for some reason I thought we would win because good things do not happen to bad bad people....unfortunately that is not how the world works :( I used to be a pretty big PSU supporter, love their plan uniforms, loved several of their players, thought JoPa was a classy dude who did things old school and the right way. But after all this came out, I was appalled and even more appalled that more people are not
 
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So Jerry Sandusky is in prison for not raping boys?
You know it was my own damn fault for having a just-world phenomenon....for some reason I thought we would win because good things do not happen to bad bad people....unfortunately that is not how the world works :( I used to be a pretty big PSU supporter, love their plan uniforms, loved several of their players, thought JoPa was a classy dude who did things old school and the right way. But after all this came out, I was appalled and even more appalled that more people are not


Cite your evidence that "Joe Knew" not that lame 1970s crap that's been debunked and the specific NCAA rule where Penn State shouldn't have a program, and don't hand me the crap they didn't because "it's about money" because that's more lame ass fantasy.
 
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Here's the difference, imo: Jewell's move was FUNNY ... and as Scotthawk mentioned, was directed at a single player.

McSorley's gesture was a crude F everyone ... we just won. To his infinite credit, though, he was very classy in his post-game remarks. Non-issue to me now.
 
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Cite your evidence that "Joe Knew" not that lame 1970s crap that's been debunked and the specific NCAA rule where Penn State shouldn't have a program, and don't hand me the crap they didn't because "it's about money" because that's more lame ass fantasy.
Whether Joe knew or not, you still had a significant figure in the football program raping boys, in PSU facilities........that in itself is bad enough.
None the less, #26 is a hell of a player and pretty much single handily won the game, a fantastic game none the less
 
Whether Joe knew or not, you still had a significant figure in the football program raping boys, in PSU facilities........that in itself is bad enough.
None the less, #26 is a hell of a player and pretty much single handily won the game, a fantastic game none the less



There were no rapes, the jury didn't buy it. Neither does anyone with a single functioning brain cell.
 
There were no rapes, the jury didn't buy it. Neither does anyone with a single functioning brain cell.
Correction - there were no rapes on campus. That infamous report about what McQueary witnessed in the locker room was thrown out of court in part because the kid (now man) in the shower was on record suggesting nothing happened that night. Jerry was a sick person who's crimes were as heinous as anything I can imagine. But it's also come to light that he acted in secrecy and that the theory of a PSU coordinated coverup has been debunked. Of the 30 or so counts brought to court against the administrators - many of which were felonious - only 3 misdemeanors stuck (one of which may yet be repealed), which were pretty much suggesting that they didn't know what Jerry was doing, but that they should have known.

None of this post is heresay, unlike much of the venom that is spewed toward Penn State by those who haven't followed the case outside of the sensational first few months. This is what ultimately happened...ignorance doesn't change a thing.

Great game Hawkeye fans. Much luck for the rest of the season.
 
Jesus is America soft. Who cares they are players making plays. There is emotion in the game and sometimes it comes out.

I had no problem what baker Mayfield did, I had no problem what Jewell or McSorley did. Their freakin Div 1 athletes who play with emotion.

pretty sure they are going to have to take celebrating after win away. No jumping or high fives until you get to the locker room. Don't want to offend the losing team. JFC.
 
Correction - there were no rapes on campus. That infamous report about what McQueary witnessed in the locker room was thrown out of court in part because the kid (now man) in the shower was on record suggesting nothing happened that night. Jerry was a sick person who's crimes were as heinous as anything I can imagine. But it's also come to light that he acted in secrecy and that the theory of a PSU coordinated coverup has been debunked. Of the 30 or so counts brought to court against the administrators - many of which were felonious - only 3 misdemeanors stuck (one of which may yet be repealed), which were pretty much suggesting that they didn't know what Jerry was doing, but that they should have known.

None of this post is heresay, unlike much of the venom that is spewed toward Penn State by those who haven't followed the case outside of the sensational first few months. This is what ultimately happened...ignorance doesn't change a thing.

Great game Hawkeye fans. Much luck for the rest of the season.
This is as close to the truth as I have seen, but when somebody ends an argument with "the administration only faced 3 misdemeanors charges" in a child molestation case.......that is a problem......and the fact that they may not have known, but they sure as heck should have is also a problem.
 
I would
Correction - there were no rapes on campus. That infamous report about what McQueary witnessed in the locker room was thrown out of court in part because the kid (now man) in the shower was on record suggesting nothing happened that night. Jerry was a sick person who's crimes were as heinous as anything I can imagine. But it's also come to light that he acted in secrecy and that the theory of a PSU coordinated coverup has been debunked. Of the 30 or so counts brought to court against the administrators - many of which were felonious - only 3 misdemeanors stuck (one of which may yet be repealed), which were pretty much suggesting that they didn't know what Jerry was doing, but that they should have known.

None of this post is heresay, unlike much of the venom that is spewed toward Penn State by those who haven't followed the case outside of the sensational first few months. This is what ultimately happened...ignorance doesn't change a thing.

Great game Hawkeye fans. Much luck for the rest of the season.

Lack of evidence to prosecute does not equal nothing happened. McQueary thought he saw a rape, reported it to JoePa and nothing happened. The evidence suggests JoePa downplayed McQueary's accusations when he reported it and the others followed his lead. It's JoePa's fault and that's why most of the charges were dropped against the admins. I can't wait to hear what McQueary, Curly, Spanier and Schultz think of JoePa now.
 
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The Paterno family and the Sanduskys might have a lead on some legal counsel . . . just saying.
Actually his lawyers probably busy representing Sanduskys son who is up on sexual abuse charges. You know how that works, ones the abused, becomes the abuser. OH, I'm sorry PSU fans, of course none of this ever happened.
(wink)..........
 
This is as close to the truth as I have seen, but when somebody ends an argument with "the administration only faced 3 misdemeanors charges" in a child molestation case.......that is a problem......and the fact that they may not have known, but they sure as heck should have is also a problem.
I wouldn't argue with this. Somebody should've seen something...mistakes were most definitely made. But also keep in mind, the administrators at the 2nd Mile (Sandusky's charity) also missed the signs, many of which are/were licensed therapists and mandated reporters who were trained to see what they missed. Again, Sandusky was a sick individual but as a former FBI agent who examined the case in hindsight suggested, he was in the top 1% of serial groomers he had ever reviewed.
 
I would


Lack of evidence to prosecute does not equal nothing happened. McQueary thought he saw a rape, reported it to JoePa and nothing happened. The evidence suggests JoePa downplayed McQueary's accusations when he reported it and the others followed his lead. It's JoePa's fault and that's why most of the charges were dropped against the admins. I can't wait to hear what McQueary, Curly, Spanier and Schultz think of JoePa now.
Actually, no such evidence exists in actuality. If you read all of the available testimony, it was McQueary who admitted that he watered down his report of what he witnessed to Coach Paterno, and then ultimately to the administrators. In fact there are several different accounts Mr. McQueary is reported to have provided to various sources. And for his inconsistencies (along with his inaction for not trying to stop Sandusky that night) he was awarded $12 million. A coward's dream come true IMO.
 
What is purpose in coming to this site and posting this? You must have a pretty pathetic existence that you feel this is somehow clever in the least. Particularly galling from fan of school that shielded child rapist from law for decades. Go away.
 
Just making sure I have this right...mocking opponant's touchdown celebration=ok. Punting the football=not ok?
maybe he is annoyed that when our players celebrate we get points taken away, but when others do nothing happens!
either way game is over, get a life.....
 
I'd like an apology from the psu fan 2 rows in front of me flipping off the kids and yelling "eff the kids". I thought that dude was gonna get Adam woodbury'd(eye gouged) by the Hawkeye mother next to him
Whoa ... I know there are idiots out there among us but if this was really the case it doesn't get much colder than that ... How did nobody kick his a** ...
 
I cant believe you people are actually calling him a classless kid for punting the ball. lol

Not classless, it's an emotional game. He punted the ball. Big whoop. Probably better if he didn't, but not a huge deal that he did. Just like not a big deal that Jewell did the whole swing and salute thing that apparently is fine if McSorley does it but is disrespectful if Jewell does it. Both teams played hard without cheap shots. Fans of all teams get offended by way too much. Your team won, you get to enjoy the spoils of victory.
 
I wouldn't argue with this. Somebody should've seen something...mistakes were most definitely made. But also keep in mind, the administrators at the 2nd Mile (Sandusky's charity) also missed the signs, many of which are/were licensed therapists and mandated reporters who were trained to see what they missed. Again, Sandusky was a sick individual but as a former FBI agent who examined the case in hindsight suggested, he was in the top 1% of serial groomers he had ever reviewed.
I will admit I do not know the whole "story" and I do appreciate your pretty objective dialogue on here. The truth is more than likely somewhere in the middle of what PSU supporters claim is a myth (obviously chargers were in fact filed) and those who think everything that was sensationalized is 100% true....probably somewhere in the middle as I said.
 
We don't know any attorneys good enough who could have fixed our reputation after the bullshit you undeserving people have somehow survived. Have you disowned Joe Paterno yet? **** off until you all agree to disown Joe Paterno.

Don't leave the AD and school President off the list either, they were all culpable. Those hypocrites looked the other way because they didn't want to tarnish Penn State's precious image, winning at all cost. How quickly everyone wants to forget. Those impacted will never forget.
 
Actually, no such evidence exists in actuality. If you read all of the available testimony, it was McQueary who admitted that he watered down his report of what he witnessed to Coach Paterno, and then ultimately to the administrators. In fact there are several different accounts Mr. McQueary is reported to have provided to various sources. And for his inconsistencies (along with his inaction for not trying to stop Sandusky that night) he was awarded $12 million. A coward's dream come true IMO.

It's pretty clear from JoePa's testimony that McQueary told him a not so water-downed version. McQueary was awarded money because he did the right thing (short of decking the guy) and still got destroyed by all of the JoePa fanatics in the region. McQueary is a football coach, who was loyal to JoePa. I'm sure he didn't ask for any of this.
 
It's pretty clear from JoePa's testimony that McQueary told him a not so water-downed version. McQueary was awarded money because he did the right thing (short of decking the guy) and still got destroyed by all of the JoePa fanatics in the region. McQueary is a football coach, who was loyal to JoePa. I'm sure he didn't ask for any of this.
I agree that McQueary didn't ask for any of this, but before we paint him out as a saint, keep in mind that he had his own legal troubles (gambling, sending dick pics to someone who wasn't his wife). And it was McQueary who testifies that what he told Paterno was a watered down version.
 
What did Jewell do? He merely mocked McSorley's shitty celebration (sorry. erhmmm.... tradition)? Oh, sorry. Jewell, like Saquon, will be getting NFL paychecks for as long as they're healthy and they want it. McSorely will be selling used Dodges in Philadelphia almost immediately after graduation from PSU.
Just making sure I have this right...mocking opponant's touchdown celebration=ok. Punting the football=not ok?
That's pretty much it; now go back home where you belong.
 
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