Leadership right there, basically saying what happened last night is unacceptable.
Lets hope it comes to fruition.
Lets hope it comes to fruition.
"I promise the rest of the year, every Hawkeye team that steps on the court will be locked in and ready to go.”
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Is he saying the Hawks weren't "locked in and ready to go"? Overconfident? They were up by 6 at the half. They had 10 turnovers for the game (four by Garza as was swarmed), so they didn't play sloppy basketball. They played hard the whole game. Indiana is not meatloaf.
Why is it assumed that when one team loses to another team that the losing team wasn't "ready to go"?
Why is it assumed that when one team loses to another team that the losing team wasn't "ready to go"?
I am guessing Garza said "God Bless" as we walked away!
I think a lot of that is based off Weezy's response to Iowa being too comfortable going into that game. IIRC, I believe his response was, "a little."
I do agree, though, with what you're saying. People are probably tired of hearing it, but it's still nonetheless true. With Iowa's current starting rotation, they are limited athletically. That's just reality. I can't say for sure, but if Indiana were playing tough, physical man-to-man defense, as has been discussed (I didn't see the game last night), then it would make sense to me that Iowa got worn down in the second half, which would easily explain why shots weren't falling and why they went on a long scoring drought.
So, it is what it is.
Coach & player quotes from the game story from the AP give some clues:
Perhaps, coach Fran McCaffery said, his Iowa team got too comfortable.
"I think we have to understand a little bit better what this league is and the quality of the teams that are coming in here and that we're going to face on the road," McCaffery said. "I thought up until now we did a pretty good job of that."
"I thought they were tougher than we were tonight," McCaffery said. "And that's disappointing. Our execution wasn't sharp."
"The offense was stagnant," said center Luka Garza, who led the Hawkeyes with 28 points. "We're better than that."
Garza, the nation's leading scorer at 26.9 points per game, had 12 rebounds for his seventh double-double of the season. But he faced constant double-teams and with no outside shooting to open the lane, found himself surrounded in the second half.
Joe Wieskamp scored 16 points, but only one in the second half.
"Credit to them, they did a good job in the second half of taking everything away from me," Wieskamp said.
Jordan Bohannon, who was averaging 17 points in the last five games, went scoreless and missed all nine of his shots.
"They got up in his face and they chased him around and he had a couple in-and-outs early and just never really got comfortable," McCaffery said.
Full Game story:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/recap?gameId=401263406
Garza is spot on with his comments.
No, they did not play hard the whole game. They gave up far too many 50/50 possessions. They were soft in the post.
The Hawks certainly looked overconfident and didn't take Indiana very seriously.
It wasn't incredible defense. It was poor shooting by Iowa, and an inability to finish in the post. The latter, especially, comes from a lack of toughness that I haven't seen this year.
I think the poor shooting, and even more so the inability to finish in the paint, were both the result of Indiana's very physical man defense, which they were able to dial up in the second half without CJ on the floor.
Around here it's primarily based on skin tone...
Agree to disagree. I still think Iowa played too softly, and this was a result of not taking Indiana seriously enough. Iowa was never strong enough to put away Indiana in the first half, and then when Iowa got up by 9 in the 2nd you could see the players starting to get lackadaisical while Indiana turned up the heat. The Iowa players acted and looked like they had the game in the bag even though 12:00 remained. They gave the game away to a vastly inferior team.
It's not even about skin color. I would say Joe Wieskamp is pretty athletic. Iowa has had many athletic white guys, such as Eric May and Aaron White.
Yeah, I joke about getting more brothas on the team, and to some extent that has merit, but the bottom line is Iowa lacks athleticism in their starting five. That usually shows up on the defensive end, but apparently that issue extended to the offensive end last night, as I've read Indiana got into Iowa man-to-man and wore them down in the second half.
So, it's a limitation this team has that isn't going to get solved this season.
No arguments, wasn't saying anything about your thoughts. Simply pointing out markfromj wants guys 1-15 to be white, no exceptions.
They've not played enough games lately to stay as sharp as they can
Indiana had good defense but not incredible just as you mentioned. Sometimes the wide open shots just don't fall. I did think Iowa lacked the energy and then got frustrated in the 2nd half when things wouldn't fall. CJ and JBo 0-11 wasn't because they were never open. Fran should have used a time out when he saw the lack of focus and he should have pulled JBo when it was obvious nothing would drop for him.
Bad shooting night. But, give Indiana credit, they are very good defensively. Move on.
Some more quotes. I would argue that Jordan has been more than a dollar short when it comes to his parking fines. 😏
“I think as a team we’ve got to do a better job communicating,” Garza said. “We can’t have two guys on one at any point and I think that’s what killed us. We were just a day late and a dollar short on a lot of things.”
“To beat good teams you have to play better defense than that,” Fran McCaffery said. “I think you can talk about a lot of things, but it starts with that. They were able to move the ball, give them credit. They executed and they moved it, they shared it. I thought they played harder, and we still had a shot. So we did not play well, we got outplayed, and that happens.
“And you’re right, you got to learn from it. You don’t want to let it linger. I’m not in there blaming individuals. You didn’t do this and you should have done that and, it’s we and us. We didn’t execute and didn’t complete the game plan, didn’t fight hard enough tonight.”
“I think as a team we’ve got to do a better job communicating,” Garza said. “We can’t have two guys on one at any point and I think that’s what killed us. We were just a day late and a dollar short on a lot of things.”
“To beat good teams you have to play better defense than that,” Fran McCaffery said. “I think you can talk about a lot of things, but it starts with that. They were able to move the ball, give them credit. They executed and they moved it, they shared it. I thought they played harder, and we still had a shot. So we did not play well, we got outplayed, and that happens.
“And you’re right, you got to learn from it. You don’t want to let it linger. I’m not in there blaming individuals. You didn’t do this and you should have done that and, it’s we and us. We didn’t execute and didn’t complete the game plan, didn’t fight hard enough tonight.”
When the more athletic player is the one out running.dribbling, jumping the other. That would be the red jersuy not the white one if you missed it
if Indiana played incredible defense, Michigan and MSU and Illinois may play infinity squared incredible.
Indiana has a talented post guy that is too quick for Garza/Nunge to guard and he got some favorable calls.
Indiana has so athletic/smallish guards that are not great shooters. Any game you give up 49% overall shooting and 47% from 3pt line and a lot of trips to FT line as Iowa did defensively, you are going to put a lot of pressure on Garza to shoot incredible percentage to make up for the other guys bricking. JoeW, Cmac were pretty close to their season averages. Garza was less efficient than normal. Bench was poor. JBo was 0-8, but even if he is say 3/8 and just okay, it still would be a loss. Losing Fredrick is huge as it means JBO has to be "ON" or there is no backup plan.
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I think Indiana is certainly better than their record would indicate. I feel like we shot poorly even in the first half but hustled enough to hold a decent lead. Indiana seemed to want the win more in the second half. We just did not have that usual energy plus our shooting was obviously horrendous. Indiana won because of their effort, help defense and ability to draw tons of fouls on us.
IMO from a BB skill standpoint I’d say it’s the ability to play effective man to man defense while on the court because the best athletes can make it look effortless and the athletic skills involved in being a great defender comes down to raw athleticism and effort. Indiana has better athletes at every position compared to Iowa. Our best athletes are probably Murray and Joe T. and I’d also say they’re our best defenders.
This remains wrong. But the "we need more black players" we read frequently here is both offensive and also just wrong.
We do not "need more black players"; we've (in past years) needed more good players.
North Carolina is more athletic than Indiana, and we buried them with good ball movement, good looks, and made shots. That’s how this team has the number 2 offense in the country. I’ve used the word “disjointed” multiple times, and that’s what it was last night. Nobody was on the same page as far as screen utilization, cutting, it was a mess. On top of that, nobody wanted to try to get a shot themselves outside of Garza, and half the defense was crashing down on him every time he touched the ball.
Again I ask, how does Wieskamp have the confidence to hit that step back fading jumper in the first half, but doesn’t even look for his shot in the second?
Again I ask, how does Wieskamp have the confidence to hit that step back fading jumper in the first half, but doesn’t even look for his shot in the second?
That is a joke that reinforces stereotypes (white stiffs, black thoroughbreds). It says we need Okay Ukah instead of Garza.
This "joke" is simply not funny.
But Bleeder's statement was "With Iowa's current starting rotation, they are limited athletically.", not referring specifically versus Indiana.
So, Bleeder, is Iowa "limited athletically" versus Valley High School?
But Bleeder's statement was Iowa "is limited athletically", and was not specifically as compared to Indiana.
I thought the same thing as soon as I read it.
I am guessing Garza said "God Bless" as we walked away!
I think he said "Love it or Leave it!" I could be wrong though.
