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"I promise the rest of the year, every Hawkeye team that steps on the court will be locked in and ready to go.”

No not at all. You don't have any clue on what your arguing about.
Usain Bolt cant shoot or defend, he's not athletic.
Fvckin idiot.

to be fair we don’t know for sure. He may be capable of doing both at a high level but he’s too busy being the best at his sport? But I bet you’re right.
 
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No not at all. You don't have any clue on what your arguing about.
Usain Bolt cant shoot or defend, he's not athletic.
Fvckin idiot.
"Idiot"? From the guy who says "I think there is three."
I didn't think I would have to point this out, but here is a waste of 10 minutes.
Nobody wants Usain shooting a jump shot, you dolt, which actually made my point. If your tiny brain, can only comprehend that athleticism is how high you can jump, you nailed it. Tyler excelled at jumping, but that's about it. Shooting, passing, soft touch of backboards, and dribbling are all characteristics of an "athlete". He couldn't dribble well, he couldn't pass well, he couldn't move his body fast enough to even defend well. Christ, he shot 52% his last year when 90% of his shots were within 5 feet, that's worse than Nunge right now. With all that said, I loved Tyler. He was so fun to watch dunk. However, there are so many things that define "athleticism", and you, like many others arguing here, are looking at a 6-9 muscular black man and screaming "athlete", because you are dumb and lack knowledge as to what "athleticism" actually refers to. You're doubling down by saying "three" because you are looking at the 3 guys on our bench, who are black. Weiskamp is far more athletic than Tyler was. Frederick same. Murray same.
 
"Idiot"? From the guy who says "I think there is three."
I didn't think I would have to point this out, but here is a waste of 10 minutes.
Nobody wants Usain shooting a jump shot, you dolt, which actually made my point. If your tiny brain, can only comprehend that athleticism is how high you can jump, you nailed it. Tyler excelled at jumping, but that's about it. Shooting, passing, soft touch of backboards, and dribbling are all characteristics of an "athlete". He couldn't dribble well, he couldn't pass well, he couldn't move his body fast enough to even defend well. Christ, he shot 52% his last year when 90% of his shots were within 5 feet, that's worse than Nunge right now. With all that said, I loved Tyler. He was so fun to watch dunk. However, there are so many things that define "athleticism", and you, like many others arguing here, are looking at a 6-9 muscular black man and screaming "athlete", because you are dumb and lack knowledge as to what "athleticism" actually refers to. You're doubling down by saying "three" because you are looking at the 3 guys on our bench, who are black. Weiskamp is far more athletic than Tyler was. Frederick same. Murray same.
Weiskamp is one of them. Shut the fvck up.
Shooting and passing has nothing to do with athleticism. Lol. JFC people.
 
You are arguing “athlete” versus “athleticism”... there’s an implied difference. Athleticism is usually characterized by “run faster, jump higher” fast-twitch muscle fibers, strength, etc. while an athlete implies some level of skill and training in conjunction with pure athleticism.

For example, it would be fair to say that Arnold Palmer is a greater athlete than Tyler Cook, because their natural athleticism, training, and skill combined brought him further in his sport than TC’s has. But Arnold Palmer is not more athletic than Tyler Cook.

And neither is Wieskamp or Fredrick
 
You are arguing “athlete” versus “athleticism”... there’s an implied difference. Athleticism is usually characterized by “run faster, jump higher” fast-twitch muscle fibers, strength, etc. while an athlete implies some level of skill and training in conjunction with pure athleticism.

For example, it would be fair to say that Arnold Palmer is a greater athlete than Tyler Cook, because their natural athleticism, training, and skill combined brought him further in his sport than TC’s has. But Arnold Palmer is not more athletic than Tyler Cook.

And neither is Wieskamp or Fredrick
Dudes an idiot. I give up.
 
You are arguing “athlete” versus “athleticism”... there’s an implied difference. Athleticism is usually characterized by “run faster, jump higher” fast-twitch muscle fibers, strength, etc. while an athlete implies some level of skill and training in conjunction with pure athleticism.

For example, it would be fair to say that Arnold Palmer is a greater athlete than Tyler Cook, because their natural athleticism, training, and skill combined brought him further in his sport than TC’s has. But Arnold Palmer is not more athletic than Tyler Cook.

And neither is Wieskamp or Fredrick
Arnold Palmer? Let's try something that actually makes sense. How about Steph Curry? Steph Curry is a greater athlete than Tyler Cook, because their natural athleticism, training, and skill combined brought him further in his sport than TC’s has. "Characterized" is the key word here. Again, if you prescribe to the notion that the best athletes are the ones that can run faster and jump higher, that's your game. It doesn't mean it's right. There are many traits that can define athletic ability, those are just two. Which goes back to the original argument, he said Tyler cook is "athletic" and that there weren't many guys on the team that could match that. I agree if we are talking about just jumping. I just happen to differ as my "athletic" definition is far more broad than CO's, as I believe athleticism to it's very definition "a high degree of natural talent, strength, or enthusiasm" refers to more than just jumping or running. To me, it would refer to all athletic traits an individual possesses that makes them an overall athlete. IF being a great shooter isn't "athletic", then everyone would be shooting over 50% from 3 like CJ.
 
Arnold Palmer? Let's try something that actually makes sense. How about Steph Curry? Steph Curry is a greater athlete than Tyler Cook, because their natural athleticism, training, and skill combined brought him further in his sport than TC’s has. "Characterized" is the key word here. Again, if you prescribe to the notion that the best athletes are the ones that can run faster and jump higher, that's your game. It doesn't mean it's right. There are many traits that can define athletic ability, those are just two. Which goes back to the original argument, he said Tyler cook is "athletic" and that there weren't many guys on the team that could match that. I agree if we are talking about just jumping. I just happen to differ as my "athletic" definition is far more broad than CO's, as I believe athleticism to it's very definition "a high degree of natural talent, strength, or enthusiasm" refers to more than just jumping or running. To me, it would refer to all athletic traits an individual possesses that makes them an overall athlete. IF being a great shooter isn't "athletic", then everyone would be shooting over 50% from 3 like CJ.
You literally repeated what I said in an argumentative format. Why would anybody say that Steph is a better athlete than TC? He is, but it would make more sense to just say that he’s a better basketball player than Cook. I wouldn’t agree that he is more athletic than TC. I also do not subscribe to the notion that the best athletes are the ones who run fast and jump high. The best athletes are the people who excel at their respective sports. The most ATHLETIC individuals are the ones who run fast and jump high. There is an implied difference.

And being a good shooter is pure repetition and muscle memory, not athleticism. Great athletes who play the sport of basketball may be great shooters, but they aren’t necessarily super athletic because they are great shooters.

If you want to compare “athletes” across the same sport, then just say “x is a better basketball player than y.” If you say “x is more athletic” or “x is the better athlete than y” and they are both basketball players, others will assume you are talking about “run fast jump high”
 
"Idiot"? From the guy who says "I think there is three."
I didn't think I would have to point this out, but here is a waste of 10 minutes.
Nobody wants Usain shooting a jump shot, you dolt, which actually made my point. If your tiny brain, can only comprehend that athleticism is how high you can jump, you nailed it. Tyler excelled at jumping, but that's about it. Shooting, passing, soft touch of backboards, and dribbling are all characteristics of an "athlete". He couldn't dribble well, he couldn't pass well, he couldn't move his body fast enough to even defend well. Christ, he shot 52% his last year when 90% of his shots were within 5 feet, that's worse than Nunge right now. With all that said, I loved Tyler. He was so fun to watch dunk. However, there are so many things that define "athleticism", and you, like many others arguing here, are looking at a 6-9 muscular black man and screaming "athlete", because you are dumb and lack knowledge as to what "athleticism" actually refers to. You're doubling down by saying "three" because you are looking at the 3 guys on our bench, who are black. Weiskamp is far more athletic than Tyler was. Frederick same. Murray same.

Wieskamp is not more athletic than Cook. A better player yes.

Cook was very athletic but not very good at basketball.

Cook didn't know what to do or where to be on the court when he didn't have the ball and he rarely even tried to do anything without the ball. His go to moves we're standing, watching and jogging.

Tyler Cook is not slow but when you have no instincts to anticipate which way you should be going combine with lack of hustle you look very slow.

If Cook had half of Keegan Murrays instincts he would have been a one and done lottery pic.
 
But if two of our guards have a bad shooting night —we lose to just about anyone

Thats not true. That scenario has already happened plenty of times without a loss.

The loss to IU was all 4 starting guards being nonfactors in the second half, combined with the best bench player, Murray being taken out by the reffs and Patrick missing numerous point blank shots.

Thats basically 6 of the top 7 being nonfactors in the second half.

That game is going to be an irrelevant outlier overall. Allot like Michigan's loss to Minnesota.
 
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