If Baseball goes to robot strike zone and pitch clocks...I'm done

[JRHawk2003]

When I play video games, I keep the human strike zone on

My point was that the comparison between the umps and players is a poor one

No its not....and its entertainment....you cant tell me that the Earl Weaver-Umpire tirades were not entertaining. Its a hell of a lot more entertaining than watching a guy on a headset go over replay over and over and over....

 

[ScoutRefugee]

...people still watch baseball????

 

[SSG T]

If implemented properly, review in baseball (getting all of the calls right) should easier and more efficient than any of the other sports. There is built in down time to review all plays and there's really only 1-2 things going on at any one time.

If a player makes an error, his team pays the penalty via an extra runner, extra out, extra run etc. If an ump makes a miatake, it gives one of the teams an advantage through no fault of their own.

I'm all for robot umps. I'm not exactly for the pitch clock. The biggest difference in time between games now an 50 years ago is between innings...the commercial time. How do you fix that? Anyone really want to take millions/billions away from the teams?

 

[SWIowahawks]

No to robots and no to pitch clock. Waaaaaaay too many variables to both. Does the pitch clock restart with a step off of the mound? Does it restart after a throw to a base?

What kind of advantage does a runner get when the pitch clock is down to 1 and he knows the pitcher has to pitch the ball?

You can't rush guys in the 100 degree heat to be running a marathon out there. The beauty of baseball is that it's a cat and mouse game. What's he gonna throw here with an 0-2 count? Is the pitchers first move gonna be to home or is he gonna try and pick me off?

Keep the batters in the box. I like the idea of stopping the throwing around the bases after a K.

As for the robot calling balls and strikes, did the batter foul tip it? Did the catcher field it cleanly? These are things you can't wait for the robot to decide and show to everyone. It would be extremely sloppy to just play continuation and then have to go to the monitor for a foul tip that hit the dirt.

 

[Joes Place]

As for the robot calling balls and strikes, did the batter foul tip it? Did the catcher field it cleanly? These are things you can't wait for the robot to decide and show to everyone. It would be extremely sloppy to just play continuation and then have to go to the monitor for a foul tip that hit the dirt.

Far better option:

Robot computes balls and strikes. Ump makes the calls.
Make the wrong call (via your clicker) and you get shocked at +10 on the dog collar around your neck.

THAT'LL fix the missed calls. Negative reinforcement.

Worked for ESP testing...

 

[JRHawk2003]

Someone could hack the system anyway and alter it.

You cant trust tech....

 

[unoHawkeye]

Someone could hack the system anyway and alter it.

You cant trust tech....

Someone could pay off the ump and alter the way they call the game.

You cant trust people....

 

[JRHawk2003]

Someone could pay off the ump and alter the way they call the game.

You cant trust people....

You are right...and there is more chance of a hack than paying off umps. There are hacks daily....I cant recall many, if any ump scandals like that.

 

[Cougar63]

The strike zone Greg Maddox got was a complete fricking joke.

I strongly disagree. Pay no attention to my avatar.

 

[Cougar63]

Then you have one of the worst men to ever live:

It's okay, he cried after costing the pitcher his rightfully deserved no-no or perfecto, whichever, so he's absolved. /s

 

[millah_22]

I'd be fine with automatic strike zones as long as I don't have to watch assholes like Angel Hernandez and Joe West anymore.

Everyone knows they pay the big bucks to go watch the umpires.

If every ump was like Jim Joyce, I'd fight to keep them. But they're all egotistical assholes that make the game about them. F' em.

 

[SWIowahawks]

How about the ump that tossed Gibbons, Martin, and Stroman within three pitches the other night?

 

[bhawk24bob]

I liked the crew of umps doing the Sox game tonight that called a ground rule double a home run. All 4 of them should have been fired on the spot

 

[JRHawk2003]

I'd be fine with automatic strike zones as long as I don't have to watch assholes like Angel Hernandez and Joe West anymore.

Everyone knows they pay the big bucks to go watch the umpires.

If every ump was like Jim Joyce, I'd fight to keep them. But they're all egotistical assholes that make the game about them. F' em.

People don't go to see umpires per se, but they want to be entertained, and the battles of Earl Weaver, etc. were entertaining. No one seems to understand that characters and personality drive it. You are headed in a direction with robots and sabre metric praddling monotones that excites no one but those whose language is 10001001010101001011

 

[millah_22]

People don't go to see umpires per se, but they want to be entertained, and the battles of Earl Weaver, etc. were entertaining. No one seems to understand that characters and personality drive it. You are headed in a direction with robots and sabre metric praddling monotones that excites no one but those whose language is 10001001010101001011

No one goes to watch the umpires. And no one wants to pay tickets to see the All Star get tossed in the first inning bc Angel Hernandez and Joe West can't do their damn jobs.

 

[JRHawk2003]

No one goes to watch the umpires. And no one wants to pay tickets to see the All Star get tossed in the first inning bc Angel Hernandez and Joe West can't do their damn jobs.

That happens veryyyy little...and its not worth the cost of having damn robots run baseball games

 

[HawkRugged17]

 

[Aardvark86]

we need more dutch rennert's.

 

[HawkRugged17]

we need more dutch rennert's.

Beautiful!

 

[FAUlty Gator]

The whole thing should be automated. Bags turn green when you’re safe and red when you’re out. Quick Replays done by eye in the sky. No one to argue with anymore. Get on with it. Play ball.

 

[ClarindaA's]

I wont attend a game umpired by a robot.

I hate the constant tinkering. The more they screw with it....the more they will go downhill.

They want to take the human element out of the game. Rob Manfred can go get zika and rot...

Dude, get rid of the umps, they consistently **** up

 

[mnole03]

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My favorite call as a Rockies fan.

 

[SoDakHawk]

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This is BS made up to create controversy. The "graphic" had the ball about hitting the ground. In the last replay that ball was just under the knee caps. Was the pitch low? Yeah, probably, but nowhere near as low as the graphic implied. Also, need to consider there was 2 strikes in the count so the batter should have been protecting anything close and we don't know the context, maybe the ump called the low strike consistent all game. If so, and the ump is consistent with his calls, professional batters can adjust. They get pissed when the strike zone changes and is all over the place, both the pitcher and the batter.

So I'll need more context to this video and scrap the crappy graphics that wasn't even close.

 

[BelemNole]

This is BS made up to create controversy. The "graphic" had the ball about hitting the ground. In the last replay that ball was just under the knee caps. Was the pitch low? Yeah, probably, but nowhere near as low as the graphic implied. Also, need to consider there was 2 strikes in the count so the batter should have been protecting anything close and we don't know the context, maybe the ump called the low strike consistent all game. If so, and the ump is consistent with his calls, professional batters can adjust. They get pissed when the strike zone changes and is all over the place, both the pitcher and the batter.

So I'll need more context to this video and scrap the crappy graphics that wasn't even close.

Just under the knee caps? Stop the video when it passes his front knee. That's 6-7 inches below his knee. That's freaking awful. Close is an inch, two at the very most.

 

[Aardvark86]

Beautiful!

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you should see him on called strike three v lefties.

 

[Funky Bunch]

This is BS made up to create controversy. The "graphic" had the ball about hitting the ground. In the last replay that ball was just under the knee caps. Was the pitch low? Yeah, probably, but nowhere near as low as the graphic implied. Also, need to consider there was 2 strikes in the count so the batter should have been protecting anything close and we don't know the context, maybe the ump called the low strike consistent all game. If so, and the ump is consistent with his calls, professional batters can adjust. They get pissed when the strike zone changes and is all over the place, both the pitcher and the batter.

So I'll need more context to this video and scrap the crappy graphics that wasn't even close.

If you stop the video you can see the path of the ball.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

Went to a minor league game last week with a pitch clock. Home team lost which means 9 full innings. Game over in 2 hours and 15 minutes. Loved it.

maybe I would have enjoyed it more if the pitcher picked his ass for 30 seconds between pitches and the batter messed around with the Velcro on his gloves for 10 more seconds but I doubt it.

 

[SWIowahawks]

If you stop the video you can see the path of the ball.

“Just under the knee cap”. I don’t know how some people make it through the day. @SoDakHawk

 

[SoDakHawk]

Just under the knee caps? Stop the video when it passes his front knee. That's 6-7 inches below his knee. That's freaking awful. Close is an inch, two at the very most.

EH. 4 inches. It was low and should have been a ball.

 

[BelemNole]

EH. 4 inches. It was low and should have been a ball.

That's down below midshin. He's about an inch shorter than me, that's an easy 6 inches on my leg.

 

[fredjr82]

we need more Dutch Rudders

FYP

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Sometimes I forget how animated JR was.

 

[steelrain]

 

[Joes Place]

This is BS made up to create controversy. The "graphic" had the ball about hitting the ground. In the last replay that ball was just under the knee caps. Was the pitch low? Yeah

WAY below the knees, which is the bottom of the strike zone.
Was not remotely close.

 

[SolarHawk]

EH. 4 inches. It was low and should have been a ball.

Lol, such grace. Take the L bro and move on. It was a shit call.

 

[B1GDeal]

Read something recently that said games averaged 1:45 minutes in the early 80s to recently pushing nearly 4 hours and it wasn’t just due to commercials. Said 2 hours people enjoyed the games with a faster rate of play ina more condensed time frame… now same game is dragged out nearly twice as long which is quickly losing the fan interest.

 

[unIowa]

Read something recently that said games averaged 1:45 minutes in the early 80s to recently pushing nearly 4 hours and it wasn’t just due to commercials. Said 2 hours people enjoyed the games with a faster rate of play ina more condensed time frame… now same game is dragged out nearly twice as long which is quickly losing the fan interest.

Yep...and if they are not careful they may just be looking at "suggestions" of pro games only going 7 innings. One of the biggest areas of limiting the number of pitching changes a team can make during the game, that would help save some time in the bigs.

I'm all for speeding the game up to help bring back its popularity. Robo-umps and pitch clocks seem like an easy call.

 

[Joes Place]

Yep...and if they are not careful they may just be looking at "suggestions" of pro games only going 7 innings. One of the biggest areas of limiting the number of pitching changes a team can make during the game, that would help save some time in the bigs.

I'm all for speeding the game up to help bring back its popularity. Robo-umps and pitch clocks seem like an easy call.

I don't think robo-umps are the complete solution.

I think robo-Assist would do the job.

Gives you a "bing" signal if the robo ump sees the ball clearly go inside the plate and upper/lower strike zone.
Gives a different signal if it's at the edge, and then that's a judgement call by the ump, but the robo ump indicates it thinks it caught a corner or very close to one
Gives a buzz signal when the ball is clearly off the plate by at least a ball-width

Now, the umps are really just deciding what they see over the edge calls, and all the clear strikes are strikes and clear balls are balls when you get those robo-Assist audible feedbacks. The umps are still important in how the edge calls are made and they have discretion there.

 

[hawkfan0319]

Far better option:

Robot computes balls and strikes. Ump makes the calls.
Make the wrong call (via your clicker) and you get shocked at +10 on the dog collar around your neck.

THAT'LL fix the missed calls. Negative reinforcement.

Worked for ESP testing...

Angel Hernandez should be 1st in line for this test scenario.

 

[Funky Bunch]

Read something recently that said games averaged 1:45 minutes in the early 80s to recently pushing nearly 4 hours and it wasn’t just due to commercials. Said 2 hours people enjoyed the games with a faster rate of play ina more condensed time frame… now same game is dragged out nearly twice as long which is quickly losing the fan interest.

I think you meant 2:48