If Baseball goes to robot strike zone and pitch clocks...I'm done
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I'd be fine with the pitch clock. I'd be fine with robots being utilized to challenge balls vs. strikes. Maybe allow 3 challenges per team, per game. Has to be quick though.
Who knows. The ump was in the right position and made a definitive call. Players need to grow up.
Yeah, if only there were a camera reviewing things to get those calls right.
from the naked eye, he looked out. But in slow mo, it’s closer but still looked like the ball got there a split second before the batter’s foot his first base.
If they do go to robo umps they will have to go back to the ‘85 World Series and correct the greatest travesty in baseball history…
I understand and appreciate what was going on from pitch to pitch during the 60's and 70's; but you are correct that I certainly do not appreciate what is going on from pitch to pitch today. Did something change that requires pitchers to spend more time between pitches today than they used to?
On the contrary, it appears you and JR don't get it.
The officials are not, in fact, part of the game. The players are. When a player makes a mistake, that is part of the game. When an official makes a mistake, that detracts from the game.
Tennis didn't become worse by taking the human element out of whether a ball is "in" or "out." You know why? Because hitting the ball is part of the game, but occasionally calling a ball "out" when it was actually "in" is not part of the game. It's a mistake.
My argument against automated balls and strikes includes the different heights, weights, batting styles of various hitters sometimes the strike zone can shift a bit (for example 6’6” person vs a 5’5” person — the strike zone will be different) but I suppose automation could account for that. But if they account for it real time, what’s to stop a batter from crouching as much as they can to change the strike zone?
it is now but computers don’t comprehend gamesmanship, umpires do and umpires won’t give it up entirely to a hitter intentionally crouching, especially on the edges of the strike zone. A computer just computes, so if I’m a batter and looking for the computer to call a ball, why not just do the splits or lay on the ground.
I would have a standard batters box based on the batters height. Basically don’t care how you want to stand, strike zone will be calculated by body measurement taken at the beginning of each season or when added to 40 man roster.
I could see that, or even do a quick scan the day of at the ballpark with their cleats and gear on.
Ultimately, I am in favor of balls and strike’s automation. I think the best use of it would be in little league where it can offset umpire shortages and get dumb parents to yell at the computer instead of the ump.
The ones who think we pay to see them. Without a doubt.
Even with the camera, to me the first freeze frame that shows the player and the first baseman catching the ball, the hitters foot is on first base. If it is to close to tell which to me it is and you call it a tie, tie goes to the runner. To me the first baseman got way too agitated, and then the Ump did as well.
I thought even the most casual of fans knew there is no “ tie goes to the runner “ in the rule book.
Fans, players and coaches are often heard yelling from the stands, “Tie goes to the runner!” However, no rule in baseball or softball has that phrase. A few reputable MLB umpires have stated, “There is no tie; they're either out or safe.”
On the same note, why not automate a football with sensors to go detect of the ball crosses the plane of the end zone, out of bounds or first downs.
Ok not sure you ever umped. An umpire especially at the highest levels will tell you that there is never a tie. either out or safe, one of the two options had to occur first whether a mil second of difference. However, when I have umped coached or ect, there are calls that visually are just damn too close. I call it a tie and any other ump general will defer to the runner, it may be a myth and it is technically not in the rulebook, but its something that is well engrained in baseball all the way down to the little league level.
Stop at the 13 second mark. Ball is in glove and foot is just above the bag. I would say from that the batter was out, HOWEVER, this is one of those plays where umpires use SOUND to assist them in making the play. While video may show it appears the ball is in the glove the SOUND will tell you when it hits the back of the glove. What sound did the umpire hear first, the foot hit the bag or the ball hit the glove?
Look, the ump may have indeed blown the call, but he was in position to make the call. This is minor league ball, there is no review. Players need to grow the hell up and not chase the umps out of the stadium.
Look, the ump may have indeed blown the call, but he was in position to make the call. This is minor league ball, there is no review. Players need to grow the hell up and not chase the umps out of the stadium.
Easy Peasy to embed small sensors OR just "dots" on a uniform that the cameras can pick up when the batter stands upright. Marks the knees and the letters, individually, for every batter.
Whether he "crouches down" or not, that zone stays the same from when he walks into the box.
Then you have a system with a unique height strike zone for every batter, based on his uniform size. Camera can even "red light" if it hasn't picked those up and the ump can have the batter stand/face the camera and if he tries to mess around with artificially altering, he gets an automatic strike.
System updates based on the ump hitting a reset button for the next batter.
I kinda like it. I think as a manager for the batter you better have rules when you can challenge. I'd say multiple runners on or 7th inning on.
If I were a manager I'd also not let my pitcher challenge and it would be 100% on my catcher.
Why use a challenge system? Just use the robot for every pitch. #RobotUmpsNow
Exactly. You have the technology and it works so why not use it every time?!! Makes no sense.
I’m guessing they wanna do something like tennis
Where the judges decide on the field and let the players appeal it
Only if all the robots look like Johnny5....
...and can do Enrico Pallazzo dances on Strike 3 calls...
correct. I coached hs baseball, was a catcher and pitcher.. there is nothing that requires the time they take. If anything coaches have tried to become too involved in the game and that is what takes time. The catcher should call the pitches without any coaching other than a quick glance at a dugout.
