If Goodson verbals are we out of J. Brock race
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We are going to take 2 by all accounts. Tgood and Jbrock would be a pair like I have never seen coming in. To quote another poster "pray for surf".
personally I think we land Goodson and miss on Brock . Goodson is the real deal .
I don't think getting one affects the other. I actually for see them complimenting each other. And the fact Jriehl didn't commit to Minnesota while 6 others did makes me feel good about him still.
Yup, we take them both if they both want to come. Brock is fresh off his Minnesota visit and full of Fleck's snake oil, but he will still wait and take his visits, and we get him last. So, I think he will be level headed by the time he leaves IC.
Iowa is taking 2 RB's. Thin already at RB, so 2 RB's is a must for this year.
While flecks Antics might make someone who doesnt know they are going to have other options commit on the spot I think J.Brock knows he will have options. When you hold the chips and someone attempts to hard close you, they look pathetic.
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I would think that Sargent would factor in more to last years class than this years since he has three to play three and we only took one ‘true’ RB last year if you count Evans as an athlete. The more the better imo.
very winnable recruitment , Iowa's facilities and S&C ,coaching stability , OL , history of running the ball all better. distance only negative I see .
I've seen this stated as undisputed truth over the past few weeks but there isn't a basis for the claim IMO.
If there is no attrition before Fall, Iowa will now start the season with at least eight (8!) RBs...…...
Ivory Kelly-Martin (soph)
Toren Young (soph)
Kyshaun Bryan (rFr)
Camron Harrell (rFr)
Mekhi Sargent (soph)
Toks Akinribade (soph)
Samson Evans (freshman)
Henry Geil (freshman)
Since when is 8 scholarship RBs considered "thin"? Sorry, that is a ridiculous proposition IMO.
Furthermore, all of the current roster RBs are underclassmen and entering the season with a minimum of 3 years of eligibility remaining; half will have a full 4 years to play. This group may be relatively inexperienced, but it is fairly deep (even if you consider Toks done).
While I agree it would be foolish to pass on an exceptional 2019 RB prospect holding an Iowa offer, I also believe that given the current roster depth, you hold one spot for the two recruits considering Iowa. In that regard, IMHO it looks like Goodson is the better prospect and I hope he commits to the Hawks soon.
You think Toks will be able to play though? And Samson Evans and Cam Harrell are they likely to stay at RB?
Kyshaun Bryan has had health issues going back to HS and hasn't been anywhere near 100% while at Iowa.
Camron Harrell has gotten looks at WR, DB and now RB so the jury is still out on whether he can make it as a RB at this level.
Toks may never play another down of football at Iowa.
Samson Evans may be better suited at WR or DB then RB (he was a QB in HS)
Bodies at a position does not necessarily equal depth. .I'm guessing they end up taking two RB's this year.
Yeah you pretty much take 1-2 RB's per class. Between injuries and getting passed on depth chart, good chance 1 of those 2 in every class doesn't make it 4+ years. This is true for all schools, not just Iowa. Goodson and Brock would be a very, very good RB class.
I wondered yesterday with the Sargent news whether Akinribadi's career at Iowa as a football player might be over.
^THIS^
Toks and KB have health questions.
Evans and Harrell were BOTH recruited to play other positions and were moved over to fill the void in depth.
Thus 4 unproven underclassmen RBs
2 with health concerns
2 players of other positions moved in
to help add depth.
Get a chance to add a guy who ran for over 2000 yards, and averaged over 12 ypc with 27 TDs his SR season of HS that then proves it again with nearly 1500 yards and 15 TDs at the JUCO level to add to that depth, YOU TAKE IT!!!
I am pretty confident Iowa saves a ride for Brock and Goodson until it is clear one or the other isn't coming. O hope they get both.
I think Cam Harrell will indeed stay at RB. Parker is building quite a bit of depth at CB, I believe that is why he moved in the first place. The fastest player in this group. All depends on his development.
Samson Evans could end up being a damn good RB. He tore it up in Illinois.... more that 2100 yards and 37 rush TDs as a duel threat QB. Set the Illinois Class 6A championship rushing record. One of the most underrated recruits in the past few years IMO. Versatile. Would make a fine Safety also. TBD.
Toks? Not much info. The MDs have apparently not ruled out a comeback. If he is cleared, he is talented enough to contend for a spot on the two-deeps. He played as a true frosh.
Check out @UofIHawkeye’s Tweet:
U of I tweeting at both of them. Tells me we take both.
U of I tweeting at both of them. Tells me we take both.
I don't think they are counting on Toks playing football again and I don't think they see Harrell as a RB. Seems to me like Joly type move. They needed some depth and he wasn't working as a DB.
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IKM
Proven commodities imnsho.
"But"
IKM is skinny (shout-out to KF) and no proven depth behind them. Now that could easily change in the fall, but that's where we stand today. I have to wonder if the coaches would give Barrington Wade a shot if AIRBHG unleashed his fury.
IKM isn't skinny. He is 200 pounds. Maybe you are thinking about ISM.
There would have to be something very special happen for Toks to play at Iowa again. That kind of situation is not going to make any Drs feel comfortable letting him play.
Two guys on the roster with some experience and several others with what looks like the ability to be successful and two more that cant seem to find a landing spot where they can flourish and plagued with injuries.
Theres room for 2.
Two guys on the roster with some experience and several others with what looks like the ability to be successful and two more that cant seem to find a landing spot where they can flourish and plagued with injuries.
Theres room for 2.
When the RB room gets crowded with guys all relatively the same age, you can expect guys to start transferring out. As guys find themselves far down the pecking order behind guys the same age, they leave. Graham, Mitchell, and Joly just to name a few recent ones off the top of my head.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Cam Harrel moved around again if the young RBs show some good potential.
I don't know if someone has brought this up, but FWIW, Wiltfong has Goodson and Padilla both committing to Iowa. Wiltfong is the only 247 guy I put any stock into when it comes to crystal ball predictions.He also has Larry Tracy committing to Indiana.
Whoa Nelly, Brock has been at the top of our board forever. Brock and Goodson are two different types of backs. Goodson is Mr. Shake and Bake and Brock is a power back who runs inside the tackles with speed. Remember we had two 1,000 yard rushers just two years ago just like these two backs.
We haven't gotten a commit from either back and are facing stiff competition. Now Brock has a ND offer. Once we get one verbal then we'll have to hope for the other commitment. At this point we have neither.
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Nice troll job. The difference is that the guys who don't make the depth chart will transfer out or switch positions. And the fact that reserve RB's can actually see the field on special teams if they can block or tackle, or have return skill.
The Iowa offense can't function at a high level (whatever that is) without a good back who can turn well-blocked plays into big plays. Bringing in 1-2 backs per class is wise, given the attrition rate at the position.
F'ing love this. Straight to the point. Could have just put out a general tweet and hope they both read it....Nope! Mention them both by name. Direct marketing.
Nick Chubb and Sony Michel weren't afraid to play together and it worked out pretty darn well for both of them.
Nick Chubb and Sony Michel weren't afraid to play together and it worked out pretty darn well for both of them.
Not a troll job, that's not my thing. We've seen a number of examples where Kirk's team ended up inexplicably thin at a position. You're right, attrition is always a challenge and can't be predicted...but there are times where we seemed over-loaded at one position and really thin at another. As for Fran, two words: point guard.
Anyway. Yes, running backs are valuable and versatile...not unlike linebackers. Can't really have too many of them. Just hard to believe that list is completely void of Jrs and Srs.,Toks aside. If we land Brock and Goodson we'll be looking pretty good. Sorting all those RBs into a clear depth chart must be a challenge.
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