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If Refs don't miss Brady's TO and the Gopher's foot being out of bounds, Iowa wins

I'm saying he did not react as he should have as any official should have. I'm saying he gave the mn players EVERY opportunity, because he wanted to. Take it from there. There is no disputing that he does not like fran so look at it however you want to but don't be so naive to believe just because he or anyone is an official they dont have their own likes and dislikes...call then biases if you want.

If you are looking for a good book pick up "Scorecasting". It's a interesting book and they published a very convincing study concerning home field advantage and referee bias.

Here is a link
to a small portion of what the book said, but I think you'll get the gist.
 
If you are looking for a good book pick up "Scorecasting". It's a interesting book and they published a very convincing study concerning home field advantage and referee bias.

Here is a link
to a small portion of what the book said, but I think you'll get the gist.
You are right it is an interesting book. Doesnt alter the fact that we are a small population school with no big ten oficials from iowa any longer. Nor change one of the reasons Lute left so many years ago. I can still remember watching in disbelief the 3 overtime game at purdue. Hard to believe it was way way worse than this one.
 
You are right it is an interesting book. Doesnt alter the fact that we are a small population school with no big ten oficials from iowa any longer. Nor change one of the reasons Lute left so many years ago. I can still remember watching in disbelief the 3 overtime game at purdue. Hard to believe it was way way worse than this one.

Have you read the book? Do you mean the 3 OT loss to Minnesota in 1982? The Purdue game was two games later and didn't got to OT, but we did get robbed prompting Lute to say the referees (Jim Bain) should be in jail after a phantom call gave Purdue a free throw with no time on the clock.

Just to be clear there is no such thing as "Big Ten Refs". They are all independent contractors and work games in multiple conferences.
 
Not clear we would have won had the right calls been made.

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I'm as mad as everybody else, but let's just admit there have been times when Iowa couldn't get the ball in bounds. Maybe we throw a bad pass. Maybe we get the ball in bounds and a FT shooter (like Baer) misses one? Maybe Minnesota comes back and hits a 3 and it is in OT anyway.

All that said, read my first six words. Then if you still want to, fire away.
 
I'm as mad as everybody else, but let's just admit there have been times when Iowa couldn't get the ball in bounds. Maybe we throw a bad pass. Maybe we get the ball in bounds and a FT shooter (like Baer) misses one? Maybe Minnesota comes back and hits a 3 and it is in OT anyway.

All that said, read my first six words. Then if you still want to, fire away.

Correct, but unlikely as Baer is a good free throw shooter.
Concerning the review, it would be my assumption that the time-out call might not be review-able, but the player's foot being out of bounds when he made the tie-up should have been. The only problem was that no one was aware until the replay showed the player's foot out of bounds.

In my opinion, no conspiracy, but consistently the home team will get the benefit of the calls, as I think on questionable calls the crowd reaction has an affect on the officials. I see the same in football when there is a crowd reaction to a questionable late hit or pass interference. (I usually am screaming at my TV to the officials to not let the crowd make the call)
 
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Our turn over to give Minny easy points at the end of regulation didn't exactly help.

You mean where JBo dribble into Cook and they went the other way for a slam? That's the play I thought might have killed us, early miss FTs and Jok was a first have no show.


And yet with 1 out of two correct calls we still win....but the refs were 0 for 2.
 
Have any of you guys reffed high level college games in a super charged building?
Didn't think so.

So that makes us incapable of seeing a mistake? I have never built a car but I can tell a good one from a bad one. Want to keep going with that line of thought?
 
So that makes us incapable of seeing a mistake? I have never built a car but I can tell a good one from a bad one. Want to keep going with that line of thought?

I do. No, we can see a mistake. We can also miss mistakes.

I think the real truth is: There are hundreds of calls and non-calls each game. The refs are way better than us at making these calls. But they will miss some.
 
I do. No, we can see a mistake. We can also miss mistakes.

I think the real truth is: There are hundreds of calls and non-calls each game. The refs are way better than us at making these calls. But they will miss some.

F that. It's a ****ing good ol boys club and that's it. The officiating is a disgrace most nights. You have a guy like Jim Burr at ****ing 90 years old doing games until last year. These guys have a ****ing agenda and make it all about themselves. Usually I don't care about officiating, but last night is inexcusable on all levels.
 
I don't generally go for conspiracy theories as I ascribe to the idea that one should blame malice what can usually be attributed to simple incompetence,

I thought the officials were bad and inconsistent all night, and in particular these 2 specific calls that went against Iowa that are clearly wrong.

Iowa fought hard last night but it got taken away because of bad officiating.
 
Have any of you guys reffed high level college games in a super charged building?
Didn't think so.

Jesus h Christ you're comparing Big 10 officials to someone who sells insurance all afternoon and officiates twice a week at Cedar Rapids Jefferson
 
F that. It's a ****ing good ol boys club and that's it. The officiating is a disgrace most nights. You have a guy like Jim Burr at ****ing 90 years old doing games until last year. These guys have a ****ing agenda and make it all about themselves. Usually I don't care about officiating, but last night is inexcusable on all levels.

Ok, I think this needs to be said - you're out of control with your asterisks.
 
If you think that calls or lack there of didn't affect the out come of the game then you were not seeing what i saw, i personally think the whole crew should be suspended. Wonder if it was Duke or Kansas if it would have been different.
 
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Have you read the book? Do you mean the 3 OT loss to Minnesota in 1982? The Purdue game was two games later and didn't got to OT, but we did get robbed prompting Lute to say the referees (Jim Bain) should be in jail after a phantom call gave Purdue a free throw with no time on the clock.

Just to be clear there is no such thing as "Big Ten Refs". They are all independent contractors and work games in multiple conferences.
In that 1982 game Bain called the wrong guy for the foul but the right player shot the free throw. (And you guys DID get screwed at Minnesota last night.)
 
Game was not well officiated throughout, but until not granting the timeout, I don't think you could say that the officials had totally screwed the Hawks. They were just inconsistent. Unfortunately, just about anyone who knows a damn thing about BB would have granted the timeout, and unless Iowa turned the ball over on the out-of-bounds play that would have ensued, there was a VERY HIGH likelihood of an Iowa win. All three zebras could have granted timeout, because at least 3 Iowa players were calling timeout before play was stopped. I guess all 3 zebras swallowed their gonads at the same time, and couldn't make the call in the Barn.

It really sucks, because I think this is second game where Iowa had a road game taken away from them this year. The officiating in the final 15 minutes of the Nebraska game might have been even worse overall.
 
The many turnovers plus not making free throws helped spell our doom!
Iowa's mistakes do not change the fact that an eggregious error most likely cost them he game. The Gophers weren't exactly the superior team. Bad calls like missing a travel or calling/not calling conact, charge vs. block are understandable, but that was not the case here. A horrible call was made at the most critical moment and it changed the outcome of the game, period.
 
Iowa's mistakes do not change the fact that an eggregious error most likely cost them he game. The Gophers weren't exactly the superior team. Bad calls like missing a travel or calling/not calling conact, charge vs. block are understandable, but that was not the case here. A horrible call was made at the most critical moment and it changed the outcome of the game, period.

Gopher fans are rationalizing this by saying that they got screwed throughout the game on calls as well. They then conclude that the better team won.

I agree with you. In one sequence, the ref messed up twice. He did not award a time out and he missed the foot being out of bounds. If he got EITHER RIGHT, it was Iowa's ball. Yet somehow it was Minnesota that got awarded the ball. Incredible.
 
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