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No. Remember, the NCAA is NOT a govt entity. This may affect some legal cases, but the majority of players weren't charged with breaking a law.Can Shannon get another year?
Still think UM should have got the ban hammer for doing what they did...wasn't against the "law" but seemed outside of the NCAA rules:No. Remember, the NCAA is NOT a govt entity. This may affect some legal cases, but the majority of players weren't charged with breaking a law.
Fact is, they broke NCAA rules. Right or wrong, they knew what they were doing and got caught. Maybe the punishment was too harsh, but it was legit.
They shouldn't have broke the rules and saying it happens everywhere is NOT and excuse.
If they did this, I can just imagine they were doing other shit looking into and at stuff they had no business doing simply because they had the power and ability to do it.None of the players may ever get their years back but on the bright side they can sue the Iowa DCI and for those of us in the work force there are going to be some employment opportunities at the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation.
not sure there will be any money available here since DCI agents will be covered under “qualified immunity”.None of the players may ever get their years back but on the bright side they can sue the Iowa DCI and for those of us in the work force there are going to be some employment opportunities at the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation.
LOL, the state of Iowa isn't. Pretty sure a couple of these agents will be losing their job.not sure there will be any money available here since DCI agents will be covered under “qualified immunity”.
Sue the state of iowa for their overall lack of control etc etcnot sure there will be any money available here since DCI agents will be covered under “qualified immunity”.
yeah, if it only worked that way.Sue the state of iowa for their overall lack of control etc etc
So, tell us non-lawyer types how it “works”?yeah, if it only worked that way.
Are you sure you know how it works?yeah, if it only worked that way.
I highly doubt that. The NCAA has there own rules and they are not a govt entity. Although their ules on gambling are certainly outdated, as they're written the players included did in fact break them , AND they knew that they did. For guys like Noah, best to just move on at this point. This case will be tied up in the courts for years and the DCI will be held accountable for some big payouts most likely. Unfortunately, that just means IOWA tax payers will foot the bill for this travesty at some point. Don't forget to hold Gov Reynolds accountable as well, as she signed off on this mess.I don't know the power of the courts, but can't a court simply say any organization can't use this illegally (alleged) obtained information for any decision affecting the student athlete's life, including the NCAA?
And what good would that do someone like Noah? He's already 23 or 24 yrs old. IF he has a shot at the league it will be this year. It will be a couple of more years before this crap is resolved in the courts, and for most like him if they got some eligibility restored what good does that do a couple of years from now?I understand the NCAA isn’t a governmental agency. But I wonder if the fact that a significant portion of the membership of the NCAA being government entities actually blurs the line a bit. At least in a judge’s eyes it could. We already know the NCAA bows down to any lawsuit. And they just gave a kid a 9th year of eligibility. If I was a player I’d file a lawsuit against the state for violating my civil rights and another one against the NCAA seeking eligibility to be re-established.
As a player absolutely. Again though for you fans who still live in the state, don't forget WHO is going to foot the bill for those checks.....Sue the state of iowa for their overall lack of control etc etc
Oh absolutely. Anyone who doesn't think the feds are doing stuff like this and using geofencing to track people are living under a rock somewhere.If they did this, I can just imagine they were doing other shit looking into and at stuff they had no business doing simply because they had the power and ability to do it.
That doesnt matter who foots the bill as the whole idea of suing and winning is to tell Iowans they have rogue people in state govt and law enforcement that screwed up, cheated and hurt people and they have to pay and even get firedAs a player absolutely. Again though for you fans who still live in the state, don't forget WHO is going to foot the bill for those checks.....
Did I NOT just say if I was a player I probably would sue as well? My point is that people all too often jump on this lets put this all through the courts and then always seem to forget that THEY WILL be the ones paying the bill.That doesnt matter who foots the bill as the whole idea of suing and winning is to tell Iowans they have rogue people in state govt and law enforcement that screwed up, cheated and hurt people and they have to pay and even get fired
Yes but I don't want the college level to be a g league even though it is well on its way.NCAA needs to be imploded anyway.
Just rewatched ‘Enemy of the State’. While I laughed off some of the stuff when it originally came out, I now realize it portrays exactly what the feds are doing and have been doing for a long time.Oh absolutely. Anyone who doesn't think the feds are doing stuff like this and using geofencing to track people are living under a rock somewhere.
The NCAA didn't use illegally obtained info. They got their information directly from the schools involved and the athletes admitted to the violations.I don't know the power of the courts, but can't a court simply say any organization can't use this illegally (alleged) obtained information for any decision affecting the student athlete's life, including the NCAA?
Just rewatched ‘Enemy of the State’. While I laughed off some of the stuff when it originally came out, I now realize it portrays exactly what the feds are doing and have been doing for a long time.
Unfortunately the only ones who will benefit much from this are the lawyers. SOSDD......Shannon was killed in this process did nothing illegal, but paid massive consequences for a minor violation. There is nothing any of the students can do against the NCAA, however there is a very good chance at a settlement with the Iowa. I still expect more to come out on this. You have enough people poking around and some lawyers and news agencies smelling blood.
I'll disagree, but the lawyers will do well.Unfortunately the only ones who will benefit much from this are the lawyers. SOSDD......