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If Trump loses, who runs for the GOP in 2028?

Does Trump run yet again? If so, how much does the outcome of all of his criminal cases matter?

If Trump loses, but decides to run again in 2028, will he face opposition in the primaries? If so, who would be the candidates running against him?

If Trump loses and decides not to run again, but it's relatively close in the swing states, would Vance run in 2028?

What are the chances we see a Vance v Walz race for POTUS in 2028? I'd think that chance would be extremely small.
Based on Trump’s current age…there’s very little chance that Trump runs again in 2028 (obviously he won’t if he’s the next pres because his 8 year term would be used up). If Trump does win the upcoming election, then I would imagine that VP Vance would be the face of the Republican Party in 2028. However, if Trump loses the upcoming election my uneducated guess would be a free for all including DeSantis, Haley, Rubio, et al to gain control of the highest levels of the Republican Party.
 
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Multiple things in my mind...the apparel, shall we say...costumes. The zeal to speak on his behalf and the joy to be able to vote for him. I mean these people weren't just there to support their guy, they were ALL IN. Various statements made out loud to the effect that indicated a serious sentiment that they thought he was going to fix and solve everything.

I have been in Pentecostal churches that weren't half as energized as the true Trumpers. :) :)

Thanks. I haven't had much personal contact with them. But they seem to be full of joy and community when together at rallies. Yet the content is often apocalyptic and dark. I suppose that's where the savior comes along.

It's uhh, something... Unique for sure
 
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As long as he is alive trump will run. Even if he's locked up in a jail cell he will still run. The grift must go on
 
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Same. It has become the foundation of their party. I don’t know how they pivot away without conceding the presidency and many swing districts for a decade or more. And if a Trump-lite like Vance steps up…whatever is left of the moderate GOP is toast.
No, the foundation of the Republican Party will continue to be the economy, domestic and national security, and common sense crime policies.
 
No, the foundation of the Republican Party will continue to be the economy, domestic and national security, and common sense crime policies.
Continue? They have common sense crime policies now? They're running a 34 time felon rapist as their POTUS nominee at the moment.
 
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When Trump finally dies, this is the interesting question. Trumpism unearthed a really, really ugly American. One that was better left in their cave. Amazingly (and unfortunately) they’re not crawling back in and it looks like they’re here to stay if you play to their ugliness just right. The republicans have sold their souls and latched on to them because they can actually move the needle. Whomever takes the baton from a dead Trump will likely have to lower themselves to appeal to this ugly American. Because if they don’t, someone will.
You mean the “common sense” Americans. 😉 For instance, American citizens who don’t want to see their tax dollars going toward illegal immigrant’s health care, education, and welfare programs; common sense people that want migrants to be vetted b4 entering this country legslly; common sense people that don’t want to see transgenders play in biological women sports; common sense Americans that don’t want to see the DOJ/FBi weaponized against a particular political opponent(s) and/or consider parent’s that want to speak out at school board meetings as terrorists; common sense people that see increasing #’s of homelessness/vagrants as partially a mental heath problem. I could go on…
 
Does Trump run yet again? If so, how much does the outcome of all of his criminal cases matter?

If Trump loses, but decides to run again in 2028, will he face opposition in the primaries? If so, who would be the candidates running against him?

If Trump loses and decides not to run again, but it's relatively close in the swing states, would Vance run in 2028?

What are the chances we see a Vance v Walz race for POTUS in 2028? I'd think that chance would be extremely small.
Stormy '28
 
I don't know, man. I could see one of his dipshit sons start to move into the spotlight a bit and see how it goes. Test the waters so to speak.

Do I think one would actually run? I don't really think so. But I also didn't think Trump would still be dominating that party in 2024. Being a stupid asshole and having the last name Trump is good enough w/ the MAGA base to immediately be the favorite over others in the party.

We're living in a weird time right now.
Don Jr. already has that with Vance. Why take on all of the headache when you have all the influence for free?
 
Look at any poll…the Republicans are winning on the economy, illegal immigration, and crime in the streets.
Ah yes, those crime polls.

Nothing like being tough on crime while overlooking the crimes the dear leader has committed. Almost sounds cultish. Weird.
 
You mean the “common sense” Americans. 😉 For instance, American citizens who don’t want to see their tax dollars going toward illegal immigrant’s health care, education, and welfare programs; common sense people that want migrants to be vetted b4 entering this country legslly; common sense people that don’t want to see transgenders play in biological women sports; common sense Americans that don’t want to see the DOJ/FBi weaponized against a particular political opponent(s) and/or consider parent’s that want to speak out at school board meetings as terrorists; common sense people that see increasing #’s of homelessness/vagrants as partially a mental heath problem. I could go on…

Almost all that is just policy differences. And if that's all it was I wouldn't consider you trash. Just differences of opinion (although I even agree with some of it). But Trumpism is more than policy. It's numpty hate-filled gullible trash. And since you love Trump, you're numpty hate-filled gullible trash - policy differences or not. Don't worry if this makes you grumpy, we'll never ever hang out IRL because I don't associate with trash so this won't impact you at all.
 
"She's much smarter and sharper than the boys."

You're looking at the wrong thing. Ivanka had no shot. To be elected now as a republican, you need the base. Trump can get the base becuae he's Trump. Can Don, Ivanka, or Eric continue to hold it? Are they charismatic as Trump? If they can, can they hold it for another four years? I think of Trump goes, MAGA base will dwindle.

Ivanka is probably the best out of the three. Too bad she has lady bits.

I think the what you are underestimating is how much the Trump name will continue to trigger the democrats and especially the media.

A HUGE part of the appeal of Trump is the way he make the people you don't like, and don't like you squirm and cry and melt down. Supporting Trump is a giant F-you to the people you feel are against you. That's why it doesn't matter to many Christians that Trump is absolutely irreligious himself...he triggers the folks that religious people consider their opponent.

I agree that Ivanka isn't as charismatic as Trump (although I've just never seen that part of him) but if the media absolutely lose their sanity over Ivanka and act the fool like they do with Trump, I think she can inherit a lot of Trump's support. Nothing matters more to Trump supporters than rubbing shit in the face of those they consider their enemies.

If the media treats her like just another Republican, that will mute some of her potential. But I'm trusting them to go absolutely ballistic. If the The View melts down in screams and tears about Ivanka, she could do ok.
 
If he believes he can keep the grift going, Trump will consider running again. Realistically, I’m guessing the serious candidates will be Vance, Haley, and maybe a few governors.
 
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If he believes he can keep the grift going, Trump will consider running again. Realistically, I’m guessing the serious candidates will be Vance, Haley, and maybe a few governors.
he'd at least string people along as long as possible to get some "donations"
 
If he believes he can keep the grift going, Trump will consider running again. Realistically, I’m guessing the serious candidates will be Vance, Haley, and maybe a few governors.

Trump will be termed out. Vance will be the guy.

The future of our country is looking bright.
 
Ok, but the question asked who will run if Trump loses.
because the second trump needs a scapegoat...ole' jd is getting thrown under any and every bus available

there is only one true constant in the trump universe - nothing bad is can ever be trump's fault, it's always someone else
 
With the way things are going for Kamala, that's not going to happen.
Nothing indicates Kamala is slipping. Republican pollsters are flooding the zone with polls to give Trumpsters something to cling to, but Harris is ahead in enough swing states to still be considered the favorite.
 
Nothing indicates Kamala is slipping. Republican pollsters are flooding the zone with polls to give Trumpsters something to cling to, but Harris is ahead in enough swing states to still be considered the favorite.

I realize CNN and MSNBC hasn't broken the news to viewers yet. You will see it sooner or later.
 
Honestly I feel like DeSantis’ time is past too. He shot his shot when he thought Trump was at his weakest but otherwise, he’s just a pretty unlikable dude. By 2028, he won’t be able to lean on stuff like keeping Florida open during Covid.

The party could get the same package in a younger form with Vance.
DeSantis didn't keep FL open during COVID. He closed everything down March 20, 2020. The difference is he reopened various businesses much sooner than blue state governors.
 
Nothing indicates Kamala is slipping. Republican pollsters are flooding the zone with polls to give Trumpsters something to cling to, but Harris is ahead in enough swing states to still be considered the favorite.
here's an interesting article...i'm not a subscriber so i can't see all of it, but the part i can see says what most of these kinds of analyses show

kamala has a 2.5-3% lead nationally and a 1%(ish) lead in the northern swing states...

 
When Trump finally dies, this is the interesting question. Trumpism unearthed a really, really ugly American. One that was better left in their cave. Amazingly (and unfortunately) they’re not crawling back in and it looks like they’re here to stay if you play to their ugliness just right. The republicans have sold their souls and latched on to them because they can actually move the needle. Whomever takes the baton from a dead Trump will likely have to lower themselves to appeal to this ugly American. Because if they don’t, someone will.
I don't think Trump's populist verve will be easily found in another candidate. He's a bit of a rare bird. Certainly the door will be open to it in the party, but its not something easily emulated.

Guys like Vance, DeSantis etc... they tried to emulate Trump -- which is bad enough -- but they aren't Trumpian people.
 
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Does Trump run yet again? If so, how much does the outcome of all of his criminal cases matter?

If Trump loses, but decides to run again in 2028, will he face opposition in the primaries? If so, who would be the candidates running against him?

If Trump loses and decides not to run again, but it's relatively close in the swing states, would Vance run in 2028?

What are the chances we see a Vance v Walz race for POTUS in 2028? I'd think that chance would be extremely small.

How would you see a Vance v Walz race - I don't see any scenario where that could happen. If Trump loses, then the 2028 Dem candidate will be the incumbent, Harris. If Trump wins, Vance would have the inside track to be the R candidate in 2028, but I wouldn't expect the Dem candidate to be the losing VP candidate from the losing ticket, it would end up being someone new.
 
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I don't think Trump's populist verve will be easily found in another candidate. He's a bit of a rare bird. Certainly the door will be open to it in the party, but its not something easily emulated.

Guys like Vance, DeSantis etc... they tried to emulate Trump -- which is bad enough -- but they aren't Trumpian people.

Luckily this is true. I’m fine with people having different positions. Trump people are just pieces of dogshit - and I’m sorry for offending dogshit. Hopefully the R’s reinvent themselves post Trump, but I have a feeling the basket of dogshit vote will be too tempting for the R’s to not try to get reel them in again.
 
Multiple things in my mind...the apparel, shall we say...costumes. The zeal to speak on his behalf and the joy to be able to vote for him. I mean these people weren't just there to support their guy, they were ALL IN. Various statements made out loud to the effect that indicated a serious sentiment that they thought he was going to fix and solve everything.

I have been in Pentecostal churches that weren't half as energized as the true Trumpers. :) :)
Yep, this confirms his supporters (not all Republicans but too many) are very cult like. Thanks for being a reasonable voice in that party @Old_wrestling_fan !
 
If DT Barnum loses this election, I'd put money on Glen Youngkin being the GOP's nominee.
If it ends up being Harris v. Youngkin in 2028 and I had to bet today, my money would be on Youngkin winning by a significant margin.
 
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