If Ukrainian and Palestinian wars end,does trump get any credit?
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Sure, depending on what his role actually is.
I'd say that in the case of Ukraine and Russia both sides seem to be in a place where they'd want to be moving towards some sort of pause anyway.
I'd say that in the case of Ukraine and Russia both sides seem to be in a place where they'd want to be moving towards some sort of pause anyway.
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If the war ends with Russia giving back the land they stole I will give Trump TONS of credit.
If the war ends with Russia allowed to keep what they stole I will BLAME Trump. And I will keep blaming him when that emboldens Chinese military action in Taiwan.
If the war ends with Russia allowed to keep what they stole I will BLAME Trump. And I will keep blaming him when that emboldens Chinese military action in Taiwan.
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My take as well. After 3 years they're both pretty well worn out.
Of course it depends what "credit" means. If it's forcing Ukraine into a shitty deal because we threaten to withdraw any support...
His pathetic ass will claim credit either way.
If the Ukraine war ends today or next week and Ukraine is not allowed into NATO nor gets it's land back then it's still a loss.
If the Ukraine war ends today or next week and Ukraine is not allowed into NATO nor gets it's land back then it's still a loss.
It won't be a threat,.. it will simply be the stated reality.
No. He had nothing to do with it. Biden should get credit for at least standing up Ukraine enough to survive and wear Russia , the paper tiger except for nukes, down. But Drumpf will try and take all credit as usual.
So odd that peace is breaking out on his watch but biden should get the credit.
Absolutely Biden deserves credit But the reality is primary credit and blame goes to the man on watch.
We all know what kind of deal Trump will push. Another "peace in our time" deal.
So Biden get's the credit for the ceasefire? Not Trump as he and the MAGAts claim?
They really aren't at the table. They will give up nothing, have Ukraine give up Kursk, no nato membership. Give it a few years, Russia will attack again once they rebuild. That's the art of the deal Trump is going to go with.
primary, yes. and in anticipation of your next question, 3% january inflation is split 2:1
If I'm Ukraine I absolutely do not give up Kursk if Russia keeps land. I also explicitly say, if NATO membership is not on the table, we will be building nuclear weapons to ensure our defense.
You mean appeasement is breaking out on Trump's watch. His peace plan is to give Russia the Ukrainian territory it's illegally occupying. In addition, tens of thousands of Ukrainians have been killed and over a trillion dollars of their infrastructure has been destroyed and Putin will likely suffer zero consequences. Trump is now even talking about inviting Putin, a killer and war criminal, to the US - pathetic!
At this point his Ukrainian peace plan is hated by everyone but Russia.
Ukraine hates it, our NATO allies hate it.
But Russia loves it of course.
Ukraine hates it, our NATO allies hate it.
But Russia loves it of course.
That's because of how tough Trump is and how much Putin fears him.
This will of course signal China and North Korea, not to mention terrorists around the world that America is weak.
So you say keep that war stoked. Let's just beat russia into submission. The heck with talking
This is an Orwellian take. Russia invaded another country. They aren't being asked to give up anything that belongs to them. They need to not be allowed to take what doesn't belong to them. Opposing naked aggression isn't stoking war. The country that insists it has a right to invade and slice off parts of neighboring countries is stoking war.
Ok. Let's just throwing billions at it and keep giving billions to people illegally coming into our country. This makes total sense to the dems?
Musk could easily cover that, sad the US can't. No Russia doesn't make the rules.
Geopolitics is not a zero-sum game. The United States also stands to benefit by supporting Ukraine and, unlike many past foreign policy episodes, this support is morally right.
As long as you give Biden credit for Afghanistan, Yemen, and Syria.
Ukraine isn't getting its land back. I just can't see how that's possible at this point.
Once Russia was allowed to take parts of Ukraine by Biden the chance of Ukraine getting it back always almost zero.
If Trump can't get the war to end without significant concessions from Ukraine and can move the current borders of the conflict back some I'd say that is a win for him.
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Biden knew this was coming when it was and failed to stop it. Period.
Biden shouldn't have allowed it to happen. Once it did, there was almost zero chance of going back without US troops and equipment on the ground.
Biden knew this was coming when it was and failed to stop it. Period.
Maybe Trump should have placed massive sanctions on Russia in 2017 instead of taking their word that they weren’t actively supporting the conflict. They spent that time building a massive foreign currency reserve that funded the war.
No. This happened under Bidens watch and there is no denying it. It did not happen under Trump’s.
Biden tried to stop it diplomatically and Putin ignored him. Weakness has consequences.
Are you on crack? Which area currently in conflict wasn’t in conflict in 2017? Mariupol?
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You just answered the question....Trump won't get any credit from HROT libs because it was all in the works anyway ....you can't make shit up...
