Illegal Block Below the Waist
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This photo makes it look like he is outside of the tackle box and the block has yet to happen.
If he had kept his feet, that flag isn’t thrown. That’s tough to argue that’s at or above the waist from that photo.
This was an incredibly questionable call. I watched NW OL dive at PU defenders ankles on Thursday night several times in the open field. Arizona did thme some against BYU on Saturday and it was prevelant in the Sunday night game as well. It’s in all the games I watched. Yet somehow contact initiated at the hip is a foul.
That call is a 100% judgement call. She got it wrong and it will show up in her review by her supervisor of officials.
The hold on Fant earlier in the game was also questionable. She called that one as well I believe.
The hold on Fant earlier in the game was also questionable. She called that one as well I believe.
The Fant hold still looks to me like he got thrown around. I’m not seeing where he held.
The safety seemed like an obvious missed call as well as the late TD that was ruled down short of the goal. The camera angle was very poor, but she definitely screwed Sargent out of a TD.
Also she was the one who called the face mask at the end of the game on #52 Amani Jones. Jones gets up saying “it wasn’t me”. It’s pretty clear the face mask came from #57 Golston.
Ironically, Chuck Long comments on Amani Jones not having the best game. No Chuck, that was you and that head linesman who haven’t had the best of games today.
Ironically, Chuck Long comments on Amani Jones not having the best game. No Chuck, that was you and that head linesman who haven’t had the best of games today.
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It is a split second before contact is made on the block. He is into his hip on the next frame, I just didn't hit the screen grab quite right. Stanley is still in the process of the handoff. If IKM is already outside the tackle box, then we should have been flagged for an illegal handoff as well. In the NCAA, the tackle box is defined as 5 yards to either side of the ball snapper and extends backward to the back of the endzone. The tackle box thing for this rule is really meant to avoid cut blocks on guys running out on passes to the flat or on option pitches, etc. Not for straight hand offs in the back field.
It was a close call but Reynolds will learn from it. That was a huge gain that was wiped out and it had nothing to do with the gain by IKM. If a couple of those calls don't happen, IKM would have been over 100 yards and Iowa's rushing numbers would have looked pretty damn good.
This and it's clearly within the 5 yd box. End of story...crap call.
Learn what? Sometimes when you make a legal block you will still get flagged for it? He did everything right on that play. And, if you go back and rewatch it, that LB certainly could have cut IKM off or pushed him out of bounds. People have a perception of this play like it happened behind IKM and on the other side of the field. It did not. IKM had just taken the handoff 8 yards deep in the backfield when the block was made. The block is a big reason IKM was able to get around the edge and rumble down field.
If anyone has anything to learn on the play, it is the ref on when that call is correct. In this case it was not.
The Fant hold was on the other side of the field. And it was erroneously credited to Fant, while Hockensen held on the play. Fant makes contact with the guy and slides off. Hockensen then engages him from the side with his arm all the way across his chest and grabs his far shoulder. This happened on the edge right in front of the official.
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Well Kirk answered that (presser today). Paraphrasing but he thinks the rule is stupid and Reynolds used correct technique. In essence the rule allows the defender to draw the flag by turning and bailing out while in the box. It was obvious KF was waiting for the question to express his displeasure. He also said he never calls the league office... but will in this case. Get em coach!
That call and the hold earlier were very bad calls. I get people make mistakes, but damn those were two really bad calls.
Re-watching game you see the ref who called them both asking something to the Umpire or Center Judge. Hopefully we don’t see her in a BIG game!
i have always thought blocking below the waist should only be legal at the line of scrimmage at the initial snap
also, if a OL gets beat, he can't then turn and dive at the DL's legs, correct? Or maybe he can (which I don't like; too dangerous)
That was in 92. One of the dirtiest plays I’ve ever seen. Put his helmet in the back of his knee from behind.
Personally they need to take all blocking below the waist out of the game. There are coaches who actually teach to “end career” block at the LOS. It’s such a BS way of blocking and very dangerous. Just keep everyone upright and we won’t have any issues.
I remember Adrian Clayborn getting cut/clipped in wisky game. Messed up his knee.
Don’t worry we have the best officials in the Land coming to Kinnick this year. BIG XII officials are coming, they won’t miss a thing right Jaime
I agree. My son played college football...defensive end. Got chopped his senior year. Missed 5 games. It was a cheap shot and the guy wasn't even flagged for it. It should be illegal, period. They're kicking guys out now for helmet hits. How about for taking a guy's leg out?
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