Reading comprehension must not be a strength of yours. Probably has something to with that ISU degree you have, troll. Go back to Ames loser, you fit in better with that crowd.
I'm over the letdown, it was a good year overall, but
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The only reason Iowa won those games was cause of Woody??? Ok dude. Anyone that thinks Purdue is leaps and bounds ahead of iowa next year are morons. I do find it funny that you say Sawnigan isn't going pro than a couple post later you say looks like Jok wont be here next year for doing the same thing. It is kind of hypocritical on your part.
anyway, you have your opinion and I have mine. No, OSU and UM do not strike fear in me. Groce does not strike fear in me regardless of what you think. Iowa beat northwestern by a ridiculous amount so no, they don't strike fear in me either. Good for you for thinking Iowa should be quivering in our boots over those teams. Iowa will be playing right along side all of them including Purdue. The only teams right now that strike fear in me is Wisconsin, MSU simply because they are MSU and Indiana. That puts Iowa squarely in the hunt for 4th place. heck a few bounces go there way, and you just never know.
Good one, still avoiding the topic bc you know as well as I do there is nothing you can provide that you have said 1 thing of value or in support of anything related to Iowa. Thanks for being such a valued hawkeye "fan" since March 16th 2016
Woody neutralized both Hammons and Haas, something nobody else on the roster could do, which played a huge role in both of those games. Of course other factors played into it, but that was easily the main reason. Purdue will be top 25 in the polls and Iowa won't be getting any votes going into next year, so I guess the rest of the country is morons. Jok and Swanigan are in two totally incomparable situations. Once again, it doesn't matter who strikes fear into you, that has no bearing on anything whatsoever. Every other fanbase is thinking Iowa doesn't strike fear into them, no? Pretty ridiculous to say that because Iowa beat NW by a lot last year that that has significant bearing on a totally different hawkeye team next year. Finishing 11th or worse next year looks to have the same likelihood as finishing 4th does.
No, it doesn't. Seriously, get lost dousche. Not real sure why so many fans of other teams hang on our board. Do you really have that much time in your life?
Your opinion is yours, so be it. I stand by mine and really don't care to prove you otherwise.
Yes, it does. I'm an Iowa fan through and through, I don't need to say it again. I went to every home football game and every home conference basketball game this year, I'm as much hawkeye as you are. Quit being so damn hypocritical. "Your opinion is yours, so be it" then why do you care so much as to challenge mine? Why can't I challenge yours? Spend less time being a tool.
That's why we came back and pulled away with Dom at the 5 that game....if you remember he went off against Purdue. The reason we won was our 1-2-2 and 1-3-1 press and there lack of ability to get it across mid court and inability to get it to there post bc their offense was disrupted bc of that very press
Tell me how to upload a photo from my phone and I will. I have my North Texas, Illinois State, and Maryland tickets all sitting right here
If I'm thirsty I might just drink koolaide , a beer or a good single malt scotch, but I still think Hawk's next year will do what I predicted.... so we'll see.
Have a nice summer either having good positive thoughts about Iowa Basketball or moaning how bad we'll be and why. SMH
Have a nice summer either having good positive thoughts about Iowa Basketball or moaning how bad we'll be and why. SMH
Get off your high horse bud, all I was doing was proving I'm not a troll. I'm sure most people on here have had season tickets at one point or another in their lives.
Because they weren't better than the guys ahead of them or red shirting/ in high school.
Williams, Wagner, and Uhl did play.
Oh well, I guess my internet peen is just too big for them to handle.
You are probably right about the seeding. Don't take this thread as a slight towards nova. It isn't. The letdown referred to is the fact Iowa played up to a 3 ranking and crumbled at the end of the season. Nothing wrong with losing to nova. Now, how Iowa lost to nova........
This. Constant negativity in people's lives is toxic. If you are an Iowa fan, why wouldn't you be positive about the direction of the program? If jok stays, Iowa will be a player next year.
Iowa was terrible, but Nova was VERY good Sunday. Any other 7 in the tournament would be home as well if they played Villanova Sunday
Did you really believe the team had "#1" talent? I think things kind of reverted to the mean by seasons end. Murphys law. Played some good ball early as senior laden teams tend to do. But not once did I believe they were anything more than a 4 seed on paper. Probably deserved better than a 7 (that's what happens when you play like balls the last month of the season) but getting a crappy Temple team in the first round kind of took away that sting.
All they would had to do was beat PSU or Wisky or even ILLINOIS in the big ten tournament and they are probably a 5-6 seed. Instead they got a 7 and what happened happened. Sucks cause this team showed some great talent and great team basketball. For whatever reason after the Maryland game, everything went out the window. Sucks, what could of been for this team.
Well with the departure of 2 players I felt would give the Hawks more athleticism next year, it may be time to amend my predictions.... But not yet, I'll wait a bit to see what happens with the open schollies . I had hoped all would stay and fight for minutes pushing each other but if Flemming and Hutton felt there was not many minutes available for them with the current players in front of them and putting their goals first( which I feel is either a realistic evaluation of their talents or short sighted view for a larger goal)( either reason is fine it's their choice), may mean the players in front of them may be more talented and showing it in practice than even I anticipated.
So we'll see!
So we'll see!
lol at some of you guys on here, calling out negative nancys or posters who are negative sometimes, Being an Iowa fan all your life gives you the right to be a negative person sometimes, We are a Mediocre sports school, nothing more and nothing less, now as far as next years team goes, I see some of you fellas are predicting 20 win season and ncaa tourney appearance, Im curious how you guys are expecting such high ex pectations for a team that will have lost 4 of their top 5 scorers, top two rebounders, 4 starters and two redshirt freshman who had impressive offer lists in high school, and also remember that besides Jok probably coming back, who else are you expecting to be a consistant scorer on offense? Hell our second leading scorer next season very well could be a walk-on. Rebounding was a weakness last season and now this season we will be starting 6ft7 ahmad wagner at center lol? Oh, and currently Iowa has zero centers on their entire roster. I didnt even get to the point guard position, and sure we have a couple nice looking recruits coming in, but rarely can you depend on true freshman to contribute much. Realistically speaking, Iowa is a major question mark going into this season.
I guess I am in the crowd that thinks the OP was "drinking Kool aid". Top four finish? And I do realize that Iowa finished 5th the last two years which is why a top four finish seems highly unlikely. It was such a grind for those two teams to finish 5th. Losing four starters, despite their limitations, is going to be so hard to replace. Woodbury's leadership on the defense end of the court will be missed more than we think. I am excited about Iowa's team next year and agree that they will be more athletic. I would think at times they are going to have problems putting the ball in the basket.
I love message boards and differing opinions. Yes there are glass half full and glass half empty Iowa fans. I would probably fall into the half empty category on here. Doesn't mean that someone is a troll because they are more apt to see Iowa's flaws more than their strengths.
Let's pump the brakes a bit on the top four in the BIG and Sweet 16 talk.
We lose four starters including an All-American in Uthoff and our only legit big guy in Woody who was second in rebounding in the BIG. Now, we do have more athleticism coming in, that I would agree. However, the verdict is still out on Jok coming back. I think he will, but if he bolts for the NBA then next season could be very interesting.
We return Jok, Uhl, Baer, Wagner, Williams and Ellingson as guys with experience from last year. Moss and the incoming freshman are still big unknowns. Dale Jones is a bit of an unknown as he is coming back from knee surgery and had mixed results in the limited time we saw from him last year.
My two biggest concerns are defense and scoring. Like it or not, it will be hard to replace one of the best shooters of all time in Uthoff. Our post play will also depend a lot on young inexperienced guys who may struggle on defense. We saw glimpses of what Williams can do, but it is likely he will be playing many more minutes this year along with Ellingson (who struggled mightily in the BIG).
I think some guys will make strides this offseason but to expect to lose four starters including an All-American and actually get better is very hard to imagine.
We lose four starters including an All-American in Uthoff and our only legit big guy in Woody who was second in rebounding in the BIG. Now, we do have more athleticism coming in, that I would agree. However, the verdict is still out on Jok coming back. I think he will, but if he bolts for the NBA then next season could be very interesting.
We return Jok, Uhl, Baer, Wagner, Williams and Ellingson as guys with experience from last year. Moss and the incoming freshman are still big unknowns. Dale Jones is a bit of an unknown as he is coming back from knee surgery and had mixed results in the limited time we saw from him last year.
My two biggest concerns are defense and scoring. Like it or not, it will be hard to replace one of the best shooters of all time in Uthoff. Our post play will also depend a lot on young inexperienced guys who may struggle on defense. We saw glimpses of what Williams can do, but it is likely he will be playing many more minutes this year along with Ellingson (who struggled mightily in the BIG).
I think some guys will make strides this offseason but to expect to lose four starters including an All-American and actually get better is very hard to imagine.
I am not saying they will be too 4, but not saying it isn't possible. Also not saying miserable pessimistic fans are all trolls, even you bring a ray or two to threads once in a while.
I just remember Illinois beat us in the tournament with no seniors, I don't see us being any better than this year. Thought all those seniors would have peaked at the end of the season instead of the beginning.
