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Bumping this for @Hawk_82. He must've missed it.
I have not done too much looking into this, so this may or may not be the whole story. but it sounds like a lot of it is done through the dmv. When applying for a drivers license they can get registered to vote. They also can get a ssn through work permits which allow them to register to vote.
"Section 5 of the NVRA outlines the voter registration opportunities at motor vehicle agencies. This provision requires a driver’s license application, including renewal or change of address updates, to simultaneously serve as a voter registration application. Under the NVRA, the motor vehicle agency must transmit the voter registration portion of the license application to the relevant state elections office within 10 days after accepting the application."

Non citizens were found to be registered at the dmv in Oregon.
 
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I have not done too much looking into this

No shit

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I have not done too much looking into this, so this may or may not be the whole story. but it sounds like a lot of it is done through the dmv. When applying for a drivers license they can get registered to vote. They also can get a ssn through work permits which allow them to register to vote.
"Section 5 of the NVRA outlines the voter registration opportunities at motor vehicle agencies. This provision requires a driver’s license application, including renewal or change of address updates, to simultaneously serve as a voter registration application. Under the NVRA, the motor vehicle agency must transmit the voter registration portion of the license application to the relevant state elections office within 10 days after accepting the application."

Non citizens were found to be registered at the dmv in Oregon.
There are a couple of hilarious things here. Firstly, you emphatically claimed that illegals can register to vote but then admitted you don't know much about the topic. That is BAU for you. You run your mouth and can't back it up. Secondly, the links you provided, again, don't support your position. The article clearly states that confirmation of citizenship is required. Were errors made? Yes, MISTAKENLY. Meaning it is not legal to register a non-resident to vote.

I'll give you credit for having thick skin. You constantly are shown to be ignorant but you still forge forward through the correction and mocking. Instead of just admitting your error and taking the loss, you move the goalpost only to be proven wrong again.
 
I have not done too much looking into this, so this may or may not be the whole story. but it sounds like a lot of it is done through the dmv. When applying for a drivers license they can get registered to vote. They also can get a ssn through work permits which allow them to register to vote.
"Section 5 of the NVRA outlines the voter registration opportunities at motor vehicle agencies. This provision requires a driver’s license application, including renewal or change of address updates, to simultaneously serve as a voter registration application. Under the NVRA, the motor vehicle agency must transmit the voter registration portion of the license application to the relevant state elections office within 10 days after accepting the application."

Non citizens were found to be registered at the dmv in Oregon.
LOL - so your example is the ability to fill out the voter registration application at the same time as a drivers license and an example of a mistake made that was caught and corrected.

You do a fantastic job of refuting your own positions.
 
Heres a good article about Aurora and how Biden harris helped get the migrants to Colorado.

Aurora, Colorado, is normally a quiet, nondescript suburb 30 minutes outside Denver. In recent months, however, the city has been at the center of a national scandal.

Beginning last year, a large influx of Venezuelan migrants, some of them members of the notorious Tren de Aragua street gang, reportedly had “taken over” a series of apartment buildings in Aurora—and unleashed terror. Last month, Venezuelan migrants were allegedly implicated in an attempted homicide, an arrest of purported gang members, and shocking security footage that showed heavily armed men forcibly entering one of the apartments. In response to the chaos, police mobilized en masse and vacated one of the complexes after the city, alleging code violations, deemed it uninhabitable.

An obvious question: How did members of Venezuelan gangs suddenly find themselves in suburban Colorado? To answer this, we have conducted an exclusive investigation, which leads to a troubling conclusion: the Biden administration, in partnership with Denver authorities and publicly subsidized NGOs, provided the funding and logistics to place a large number of Venezuelan migrants in Aurora, creating a magnet for crime and gangs. And, worse, some of the nonprofits involved appear to be profiting handsomely from the situation.

The story begins in 2021, when the Biden administration signed the American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) into law, allocating $3.8 billion in federal funds to Colorado. The City of Denver, which had declared itself a “welcoming city” to migrants, drew on this reservoir of money to launch its Emergency Migrant Response resettlement program, with the goal of housing and providing services to a massive flow of migrants.

Denver, in turn, signed multimillion-dollar contracts with two local NGOs, ViVe Wellness and Papagayo, to provide housing and services to more than 8,000 predominantly Venezuelan migrants. These NGOs are run, respectively, by Yoli Casas and Marielena Suarez, who, according to professional biographies, do not appear to have previous experience in large-scale migrant resettlement.

Nevertheless, the city flooded them with cash. According to public records, between 2023 and 2024, ViVe Wellness and Papagayo received $4.8 million and $774,000, respectively; much of this funding came from the Migrant Support Grant, which was funded by ARPA. Then, in 2024, ViVe secured an extra $10.4 million across three contracts, while Papagayo received $2.9 million from a single contract to serve migrants; two of those five contracts were awarded to implement the Denver Asylum Seekers Program, which promised six months of rental assistance to nearly 1,000 migrants.

With this funding in hand, the two NGOs began working with landlords to place migrants in housing units and to subsidize their rent. One of these organizations, Papagayo, worked with a landlord called CBZ Management, a property company that operates the three apartment buildings at the center of the current controversy: Edge of Lowry, Whispering Pines, and Fitzsimons Place, also known as Aspen Grove.

We spoke with a former CBZ Management employee, who, on condition of anonymity, explained how the process worked. Last summer, the employee said, representatives from Papagayo began working with CBZ Management to place Venezuelan migrants in the company’s Aurora apartment complexes. When a Venezuelan individual or family needed housing, the NGO would contact the regional property manager, who then matched them with available apartments.

It was a booming business. According to the employee, Papagayo arranged hundreds of contracts with the property manager. The NGO provided up to two months of rental assistance, as many migrants did not have, or were unable to open, bank accounts. Within six months, according to the employee, approximately 80 percent of the residents of these buildings were Venezuelan migrants. The employee also noted that the buildings saw gang activity and violence.

The employee, however, alleges that these agreements were made on false pretenses. To convince the hesitant employee to accept the migrants, Papagayo made assurances that the tenants had stable jobs and income. With limited English and facing a minimum six-month wait for work permits, though, many migrants were ineligible for legal employment, struggled to find stable jobs, and ultimately fell behind on rent.

This was only the beginning. As the Venezuelan migrants settled in the apartments, they caused lots of trouble. According to a confidential legal report we have obtained, based on witness reports, the apartments saw a string of crimes, including trespassing, assault, extortion, drug use, illegal firearm possession, human trafficking, and sexual abuse of minors. Each of the three apartment complexes has since shown a localized spike in crime.


Volunteers who spoke with us on condition of anonymity said they were initially eager to assist with migrant resettlement but grew disillusioned with the NGOs running it. “I am passionate about helping migrants and I have been honestly shocked at the way the city is sending funds to an organization that clearly is not equipped to handle it,” one volunteer said.


The City of Denver, for its part, appears to be charging ahead. It recently voted to provide additional funding for migrant programs and, according to the right-leaning Common Sense Institute, the total cost to Denver could be up to $340 million, factoring in new burdens on schools and the health-care system. And the city also appears to have no qualms about exporting the crisis to the surrounding suburbs, including Aurora, which, in 2017, had declared itself a non-sanctuary city.


The truth is that there is no sanctuary for a city, a county, or a country that welcomes—and, in fact, attracts—violent gang members from Venezuela. This is cruelty, not compassion. Unfortunately, it might take more than the seizure of an apartment building, a dramatic rise in crime, and a grisly murder for cities like Denver to change course.

Awesome source bro
 
Who can vote and who is legal to vote are two different things. An illegal can get registered to vote and once registered, they can cast a vote. This doesn't mean it is legal though.

There is not a good system in place to make sure only legal voted are being cast. Republicans are working on this. Dems are trying to prevent and look into voter registration.
Wow, you're ****ing dumb.
 
Name calling doesn't prove you're right, it proves you don't have a legitimate argument.
Name calling is a bit different. I didn't engage in that and you had your ass handed to you on this thread. You aren't very bright.
 
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Since it went completely over your head...

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore
You proved my point if you know anything about how and why those phrases were used on the Statue of Liberty.
 
if you know anything about how and why those phrases were used on the Statue of Liberty.

...because we are a nation of immigrants.

Do we need to link the Great American Melting Pot Schoolhouse Rock video for you, again?
 
Explain it to me.

The SOL was not built as a gift or symbol for immigration acceptance. It was built by France to commensurate July 4th Declaration of Independent and our post civil war abolition of slavery. Had nothing to do with immigration. They added the plaque years later that everyone wants to attribute to the immigration narrative.
 
The SOL was not built as a gift or symbol for immigration acceptance. It was built by France to commensurate July 4th Declaration of Independent and our post civil war abolition of slavery. Had nothing to do with immigration. They added the plaque years later that everyone wants to attribute to the immigration narrative.
Are you denying that it has become a symbol that recognizes the importance of immigration in the US?
 
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The SOL was not built as a gift or symbol for immigration acceptance. It was built by France to commensurate July 4th Declaration of Independent and our post civil war abolition of slavery. Had nothing to do with immigration. They added the plaque years later that everyone wants to attribute to the immigration narrative.
The poem was written as part of a fund raising effort before the SoL was opened. I understand it was added later. Whatever France's reasons were, with its proximity to Ellis Island, it has become a symbol recognizing immigration, especially during that time frame.
 
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