In this thread: Lying Liars and the Leftist Insane Liars who Love and Defend Them

[IAHawk2011]

Uhhh...so what’s the distinction between him saying “no Dems said Trump was illegitimate” but “Republicans are claiming that about Biden”. He’s full of shit in the other direction then. Can’t be both, man. Or are you claiming that yes indeed all GOPers share the stance that Biden is not legit?

Say whatever you want about Krugman - I don’t really have high hopes for opinion pieces published by any medium. But there is a pretty obvious difference between (i) an op-ed writer and a handful of Dem politicians calling Trump’s presidency illegitimate, and (ii) 70% of the Republican Party and dozens of GOP politicians - including the President of the United States - calling Biden’s presidency illegitimate.

 

[William Bonney]

To a point, I agree! But in fairness, BHO ‘s hand was forced ( a tanked economy, sinking fast) whereas Trump made a conscious decision (a tax cut) to heat up the economy. Then for Trump, shit hit the fan and he has no where to go.

How many times did the Fed raise the rate on Obama? How about Trump?

 

[Finance85]

I don't know, I assume he gets paid, but I doubt he is an employee. Likely a contractor.

Either way, I'm just clarifying another of your misleading statements by adding pertinent information.

You don't know if he gets paid? Then STFU. If you don't know then it's not pertinent. Any other employers he might have don't have any bearing on him writing a regular opinion column for the NYT.

 

[joelbc1]

How many times did the Fed raise the rate on Obama? How about Trump?

I dont know...but I do know Trump opposed and threatened once and the Fed dropped the proposal...but again. Obama’s situation was much more dire than Trump’s...Trump had a growing economy top work with....Obama was handed an economy that was on the verge of bankruptcy. In a couple of years, Obama’s economy was recovering and moving upwards. Trump took this recovering economy and decided it needed a goosing (wrongly)....

 

[Rudolph]

False equivalencies are really illuminating. OP needs no more illumination, yet he shines brighter all the time.

 

[RileyHawk]

For money. He’s on their payroll.


Why would I FM when you’re giving it away so easily with your uninspired drivel you traipse out here so often?

SMH. Lots of people are paid by companies without being employees.

You're making even less sense than usual. Carry on with you hysterics.

 

[ft254]

Again, you are wrong. Far more republicans are claiming illegitimacy, including their leader, which is why that grouping makes sense. Not so for Democrats. And Obama did not face illegitimacy charges for his election wins. That's just made up by you.

When Faulty goes off the rails, which is often, he really gets lost.

 

[RileyHawk]

You don't know if he gets paid? Then STFU. If you don't know then it's not pertinent. Any other employers he might have don't have any bearing on him writing a regular opinion column for the NYT.

He may get paid or he may do it for the exposure, I don't know. If you have evidence either way share it. Otherwise, eat me. And, as mentioned, payment does not mean he is an employee which is the point of the discussion.

You're so wrong so often you should just assume you're wrong and shut up to avoid the embarrassment.

 

[RileyHawk]

When Faulty goes off the rails, which is often, he really gets lost.

Yes - he just starts to flail and spews nonsense. Kinda like Trump.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

Yes - he just starts to flail and spews nonsense. Kinda like Trump.

Says the left wing cultist on full display.

 

[Huey Grey]

Says the left wing cultist on full display.

Now this is just plain sad.

 

[Rudolph]

And he is not the macro "Republicans". You're flailing and continuing to prove my point. But it's funny so carry on.

It is really funny. I hope he does. For pages and pages.

 

[RileyHawk]

Says the left wing cultist on full display.

Not left wing, not a Democrat. Voted for as many Republican Presidential candidates and Democrats. As usual, you're wrong.

 

[ICWestfan]

Krugman is employed by the Graduate Center of the City University of New York, he writes a column for the NYT.

I haven't paid attention, but has Krugman even been heard from the last 4 years?

 

[FAUlty Gator]

I haven't paid attention, but has Krugman even been heard from the last 4 years?

Yes. About 50 times calling and pointing to someone calling Trump illegitimate...before saying it never happened.

 

[William Bonney]

I haven't paid attention, but has Krugman even been heard from the last 4 years?

Check ciggy's thread history.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

How did an " illegitimate " president get 3 constitutional Originalist's on the SCOTUS?

Senate majority.

 

[coloradonoles]

I’m starting to think this next 4 years is going to be a whole lot more fun than I thought it was.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

How many times did the Fed raise the rate on Obama? How about Trump?

Not apples to apples. Too many variables.

 

[William Bonney]

Not apples to apples. Too many variables.

The only variable that matters is that Obama was "their" man and Trump is not.

 

[noStemsnoSTICKS]

The only variable that matters is that Obama was "their" man and Trump is not.

This response indicates that you should be wearing a helmet.

 

[Titus Andronicus]

When did Paul Krugman become the voice for the Democrats?

He has been the voice ever since he figured out that all he had to do was to say what they wanted to hear, and in return he would become a celebrity economist. Not necessarily as big a celebrity as a Nobel Prize-winning economist, but kind of a workable voice for stupid economic ideas comingled with stupid political thoughts.

He could say things that people wanted to hear and he would be paid. That is an economic idea. ... so in a sense he is legitimate.

 

[Whatsgoingonwitgyouguys0190]

The only variable that matters is that Obama was "their" man and Trump is not.

No, the fed needs to up rates when economy is going up or stable because going to 0 is a last ditch effort when the economy is F’d. Learn something you dimwitted trumptard.

 

[ICWestfan]

Check ciggy's thread history.

No, Ciggy is on ignore for a reason.

 

[William Bonney]

No, the fed needs to up rates when economy is going up or stable because going to 0 is a last ditch effort when the economy is F’d. Learn something you dimwitted trumptard.

lol

 

[hawkedoff]

Nobody has ever said Trump wasn't duly elected. Even Lewis never said this. We accepted that he was elected. Our argument us that he would never act as a president. And Trump proved us right.

Now compare that to the Rs today. They refuse to even accept that Biden was elected. Your side is so pitifully lost it's sad.

Keep gaslighting the hell out that don't you?

 

[MikeyHawk]

It is a miracle what a plentiful supply of really cheap money dumped into the market can do, ain’t it bill? No one could foresee what was going to happen now, 4 years ago. The apparent “strength” of today’s economy has very little to do with Trump economic policy but a whole to do with Congress and the Feds response to events of the he past couple of years.

I am sure you know there has been a dump of free money for over 10 years now, but, I am sure in your world it is only a recent event

 

[MikeyHawk]

Are you saying he lies on the same level as Trump and his administration?

What does what Krugman stated have to do with Trump and his lies?

 

[RileyHawk]

He has been the voice ever since he figured out that all he had to do was to say what they wanted to hear, and in return he would become a celebrity economist. Not necessarily as big a celebrity as a Nobel Prize-winning economist, but kind of a workable voice for stupid economic ideas comingled with stupid political thoughts.

He could say things that people wanted to hear and he would be paid. That is an economic idea. ... so in a sense he is legitimate.

No. He's never been the voice of the Democratic party. He is a Nobel Prize winner and you are free to disagree with his takes on economics. But it's a fallacy to say he is the voice of the Democratic Party.

 

[hawkedoff]

No. He's never been the voice of the Democratic party. He is a Nobel Prize winner and you are free to disagree with his takes on economics. But it's a fallacy to say he is the voice of the Democratic Party.

He is just the little attack dog of the Democrats. In his position he most certainly does give voice to primarily Democrat views and does so in an aggressive and partisan manner. He is really no different than a Rachel Maddie or Bill Maher although Bill most certainly has drifted toward the center lately. Paul is akin to the gop attack yip dogs like hannity only he is given more credibility because he works for the Times.

 

[joelbc1]

I am sure you know there has been a dump of free money for over 10 years now, but, I am sure in your world it is only a recent event

Absolutely...but the “dump” of cheap money was to replace the toxic, dirty money affected by the housing crisis...it was needed to keep the economy and financial/ banking system afloat...and it created a lot of debt...The debt created by the virus is acceptable too....what was not needed was Trump’s tax cut..at the time, the economy was on solid footing and doing well and money was starting to be repaid to the Treasury...the tax cut needlessly heated up the economy, making a troubled economy appear healthier than it was...and the money from the tax cuts went to the wrong folks.

 

[FAUlty Gator]

No. He's never been the voice of the Democratic party. He is a Nobel Prize winner and you are free to disagree with his takes on economics. But it's a fallacy to say he is the voice of the Democratic Party.

He doesn’t do “takes on economics” anymore from what we see here. Just dumb takes on politics...like the current one.

 

[RileyHawk]

He doesn’t do “takes on economics” anymore from what we see here. Just dumb takes on politics...like the current one.

He does. Below is an example. Given the direct effects politics has on economics its easy, for most, to see why an economist would focus attention there. You don't like him, that's fine. But claiming he speaks for the Democratic party is wrong.

In Praise of Janet Yellen the Economist
She never forgot that economics is about people.

By Paul Krugman
Opinion Columnist

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

I love the inconsistent and careless editing relationship the NYT has with its op-Ed submitters. Lying is OK only sometimes.

"[He’ll] be the first modern U.S. president trying to govern in the face of an opposition that refuses to accept his legitimacy," Krugman wrote. "And no, Democrats never said Donald Trump was illegitimate, just that he was incompetent and dangerous."

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Woman Who Confronted Newsom About Dry Fire Hydrants Reveals Who the Governor Was Actually Talking To as He Insisted it Was Biden on the Line (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

A California woman boldly challenges Governor Gavin Newsom over his handling of devastating fires, sparking a heated exchange that raises critical questions about leadership and accountability. Read the full story for insights.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

“I’m literally talking with the president right now to specifically answer the question of what we could do for you and your daughter,” Newsom said.

Only he lied. Joe Biden was not on the phone and the woman knew it.

“Can I hear it? Can I hear your call? Because I don’t believe it,” the woman said.

“I’m sorry, there’s literally, I’ve tried five times. That’s why I’m walking around to make the call,” Newsom said lying his face off.

The woman pressed Newsom, “Why isn’t the president taking your call?”

“Because it’s not going through, so I have to get cell service. There’s no cell service,” Newsom said.

“Let’s get it, let’s get it, I want to be here when you call the president,” she said.

“I appreciate it, I’m doing that right now and it’s to immediately get reimbursements, individual assistance and to help you out. I’m devastated for you, I’m so sorry, especially for your daughter. I have four kids,” Newsom said.

“Governor, please tell me! What are you gonna do with the president right now? Why was there no water in the hydrants, Governor? Fill the hydrants! I would fill up them up personally you know that. I would fill up the hydrants myself. But would you do that?” she said.

“I would do whatever I can,” Newsom replied.

“But you’re not!” the woman shouted. “But I see — do you know there’s water dripping over there, Governor? There’s water coming out of there, you can use it!”

“I appreciate that, I’m gonna make the call to address everything I can right now, including making sure people are safe,” Newsom said as he opened the door to his motorcade to get away from the woman.

The California mom Rachel Darvish told Piers Morgan that Newsom was NOT on the phone with Joe Biden – he was talking to his wife!
WATCH:

“He’s a W*NKER!
“He was not on the phone to the President… it was his WIFE.”
California mom Rachel Darvish tells Piers Morgan about her interaction with Gavin Newsom over the LA wildfires.
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— Piers Morgan Uncensored (@PiersUncensored) January 15, 2025

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

He does. Below is an example. Given the direct effects politics has on economics its easy, for most, to see why an economist would focus attention there. You don't like him, that's fine. But claiming he speaks for the Democratic party is wrong.

In Praise of Janet Yellen the Economist
She never forgot that economics is about people.

By Paul Krugman
Opinion Columnist

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